Details Wanted: Bangladeshi Saves Jews from Mob

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Everybody,

Please give me some details of the incident recently in which a Bangladeshi Muzzie allegedly saved Jews from a pogrom on the NYC subway system recently. It was mentioned in passing on Ask JTF and in a thread here, but what really happened? Was this a case of black or wetback Nazis attacking Jews out of their primitive third-world hatred, or what? Did a Muslim really come to their rescue? How much is truth and how much is PC media spin?

Thanks for giving me answers. We Californians don't get a lot of firsthand NY news!

Chaimfan

[Yisrael]

A few Jews were attacked by a white mob. No one on the train would help so this Muslim went and helped the Jews out. He got a good beating himself but he helped the Jews.

There is no doubt in my mind that he is a hero.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

A white mob?  Usually it is black and Hispanic beasts who do these "wilding" attacks on innocent people.

[Dr. Dan]

A white mob?  Usually it is black and Hispanic beasts who do these "wilding" attacks on innocent people.

It's odd yes..but...putting color aside...a person came to the rescue of a Jew...The rescue was a righteous act. The attackers did an evil thing.

[Ultra Requete]

Thats positive C.F. whites although not your average churchgoers kind:



Q-train beat-down suspect Joseph Jirovec, left, in a picture taken from the Myspace page of his girlfriend, Kimberly Babajko, who is also facing charges in the incident





the rest is here:

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec12/0,4670,HanukkahAttackHelper,00.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/12/12/subway.attack/
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12122007/news/regionalnews/jews_subway_hero_a_muslim_381263.htm


Seems like some kind of gang and/or skinhead grup. BTW Jirovec and Babajko are croatian names. Go figure.

[cjd]

Thats positive C.F. whites although not your average churchgoers kind:



Q-train beat-down suspect Joseph Jirovec, left, in a picture taken from the Myspace page of his girlfriend, Kimberly Babajko, who is also facing charges in the incident





the rest is here:

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Dec12/0,4670,HanukkahAttackHelper,00.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/12/12/subway.attack/
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12122007/news/regionalnews/jews_subway_hero_a_muslim_381263.htm


Seems like some kind of gang and/or skinhead grup. BTW Jirovec and Babajko are croatian names. Go figure.

Nothing worse than whites that emulate the worst aspects of black society. The sight of animals like the ones in the pictures are sickening.

[Nolandforshalom]

It is because the Jews wished the group, who were Christian, Happy Channukah, and the mob thought it was the anniversary of killing Jesus. I think we should give the Muslim that reads "Worlds only good muslim".

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I stand by my original statement. The Jews were attacked by a mob of Third World savages. Those beasts are blacks in everything but color.

Those creatures aren't whites. They're Croat schvartze worshippers. 

[JTFFan]

They all look like Nazi KKKroat schvartze sympathisers!

[Ehud]

Amazing that there are still Christians who take out their anger on Jews and beat them while telling them "you killed Jesus" as if the person was alive two-thousand years ago and personally killed Jesus.  Chaim said that he faced similar incidents growing up in New York, but it's hard to believe that it still occurs. Unfortunately, the Jew who was beaten up came to the wrong conclusion that Muslims are not the enemy of Israel and Jews, based on this incident.  What the Bangladeshi did was still very heroic, goes to show that it's possible to be a good person, DESPITE Islam.   

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Amazing that there are still Christians who take out their anger on Jews and beat them while telling them "you killed Jesus" as if the person was alive two-thousand years ago and personally killed Jesus.  Chaim said that he faced similar incidents growing up in New York, but it's hard to believe that it still occurs. Unfortunately, the Jew who was beaten up came to the wrong conclusion that Muslims are not the enemy of Israel and Jews, based on this incident.  What the Bangladeshi did was still very heroic, goes to show that it's possible to be a good person, DESPITE Islam.   

I don't think you can call wigger gang members "Christians", Zeev.

[ftf]

Any true Christian should blame himself for The Lord Jesus's death, that is  core component of the Christian faith, hence, anyone who goes around beating Jews for killing The Lord Jesus is not in anyway a true Christian.

[mord]

I pointed out these wiggers were Jews not Christian they were idiots and fools

[JTFFan]

I pointed out these wiggers were Jews not Christian they were idiots and fools

no doubt idiots and fools

[Ehud]

Amazing that there are still Christians who take out their anger on Jews and beat them while telling them "you killed Jesus" as if the person was alive two-thousand years ago and personally killed Jesus.  Chaim said that he faced similar incidents growing up in New York, but it's hard to believe that it still occurs. Unfortunately, the Jew who was beaten up came to the wrong conclusion that Muslims are not the enemy of Israel and Jews, based on this incident.  What the Bangladeshi did was still very heroic, goes to show that it's possible to be a good person, DESPITE Islam.   

I don't think you can call wigger gang members "Christians", Zeev.

Ok, change "Christian" to "self-identified Christian". 

[cjd]

Amazing that there are still Christians who take out their anger on Jews and beat them while telling them "you killed Jesus" as if the person was alive two-thousand years ago and personally killed Jesus.  Chaim said that he faced similar incidents growing up in New York, but it's hard to believe that it still occurs. Unfortunately, the Jew who was beaten up came to the wrong conclusion that Muslims are not the enemy of Israel and Jews, based on this incident.  What the Bangladeshi did was still very heroic, goes to show that it's possible to be a good person, DESPITE Islam.   

Any Christian that calls a Jew Christ killer really doesn't know much about their own religion. One only has to read the New Testament to see that Cristian teachings state that it was the will of God that Jesus should die on the cross. Christian's who make that statement really speak from ignorance about their own religion.

[jerry1800]

Q-train beat-down suspect Joseph Jirovec, left, in a picture taken from the Myspace page of his girlfriend, Kimberly Babajko, who is also facing charges in the incident


SOME NICE DREKK YOU GOT STATESIDE, LATELY 

[Dr. Dan]

Amazing that there are still Christians who take out their anger on Jews and beat them while telling them "you killed Jesus" as if the person was alive two-thousand years ago and personally killed Jesus.  Chaim said that he faced similar incidents growing up in New York, but it's hard to believe that it still occurs. Unfortunately, the Jew who was beaten up came to the wrong conclusion that Muslims are not the enemy of Israel and Jews, based on this incident.  What the Bangladeshi did was still very heroic, goes to show that it's possible to be a good person, DESPITE Islam.   

Any Christian that calls a Jew Christ killer really doesn't know much about their own religion. One only has to read the New Testament to see that Cristian teachings state that it was the will of G-d that Jesus should die on the cross. Christian's who make that statement really speak from ignorance about their own religion.

I just want to get one thing correct historically. Jesus was a Jew. And at the time he was around Jews really didn't get along with each other. So Jesus preached that all Jews should love one another etc etc.  The Romans who were ruling over the Jews were afraid that because of Jesus's words, it may unite the Jews and cause a rebellion and therefore murdered him.

Is this correct?

[ftf]

Amazing that there are still Christians who take out their anger on Jews and beat them while telling them "you killed Jesus" as if the person was alive two-thousand years ago and personally killed Jesus.  Chaim said that he faced similar incidents growing up in New York, but it's hard to believe that it still occurs. Unfortunately, the Jew who was beaten up came to the wrong conclusion that Muslims are not the enemy of Israel and Jews, based on this incident.  What the Bangladeshi did was still very heroic, goes to show that it's possible to be a good person, DESPITE Islam.   

Any Christian that calls a Jew Christ killer really doesn't know much about their own religion. One only has to read the New Testament to see that Cristian teachings state that it was the will of G-d that Jesus should die on the cross. Christian's who make that statement really speak from ignorance about their own religion.

I just want to get one thing correct historically. Jesus was a Jew. And at the time he was around Jews really didn't get along with each other. So Jesus preached that all Jews should love one another etc etc.  The Romans who were ruling over the Jews were afraid that because of Jesus's words, it may unite the Jews and cause a rebellion and therefore murdered him.

Is this correct?

Some people may hold that view, but that's definitely not the Christian view or what is recorded in any book I know of.

According to the Bible, the Sanhedrin of the day had Jesus arrested for Heresy, and asked the Romans to kill him, saying that he was a trouble maker. But it was his intention to die, so, it is meaningless to blame any single group of people.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Both Dr. Dan and ftf are right. The leaders of the Pharisaical branch indeed wanted Jesus dead. The Romans did view him as a threat to their power. The Pharisees and Romans colluded in this one instance. Shortly thereafter, Rome embarked on a holocaust against all Jewry in the empire.

Of course, it is also true that Jesus knew of his coming betrayal and death, and chose it willingly, as that was his mission. Jesus, being G-d, would have had the power to strike the entire Roman army dead with his finger. But he knew that he was to die and be a sacrifice for all of mankind.

We ALL killed Jesus with our sins. Our guilt and moral turpitude and perversion all condemned him and that is why he died such a horrid death on the cross. No one people group is more responsible for his death than any other.

This is how we know for a fact that the idea that the Jews killed him is an idiotic Nazi libel.

[Dr. Dan]

Both Dr. Dan and ftf are right. The leaders of the Pharisaical branch indeed wanted Jesus dead. The Romans did view him as a threat to their power. The Pharisees and Romans colluded in this one instance. Shortly thereafter, Rome embarked on a holocaust against all Jewry in the empire.

Of course, it is also true that Jesus knew of his coming betrayal and death, and chose it willingly, as that was his mission. Jesus, being G-d, would have had the power to strike the entire Roman army dead with his finger. But he knew that he was to die and be a sacrifice for all of mankind.

We ALL killed Jesus with our sins. Our guilt and moral turpitude and perversion all condemned him and that is why he died such a horrid death on the cross. No one people group is more responsible for his death than any other.

This is how we know for a fact that the idea that the Jews killed him is an idiotic Nazi libel.

I'll just say I respect your opinion and theology..but i also disagree with it. To me, Jesus wasn't Gd..but if this is how you feel, I respect it.

[ftf]

Both Dr. Dan and ftf are right. The leaders of the Pharisaical branch indeed wanted Jesus dead. The Romans did view him as a threat to their power. The Pharisees and Romans colluded in this one instance. Shortly thereafter, Rome embarked on a holocaust against all Jewry in the empire.

Of course, it is also true that Jesus knew of his coming betrayal and death, and chose it willingly, as that was his mission. Jesus, being G-d, would have had the power to strike the entire Roman army dead with his finger. But he knew that he was to die and be a sacrifice for all of mankind.

We ALL killed Jesus with our sins. Our guilt and moral turpitude and perversion all condemned him and that is why he died such a horrid death on the cross. No one people group is more responsible for his death than any other.

This is how we know for a fact that the idea that the Jews killed him is an idiotic Nazi libel.

I'll just say I respect your opinion and theology..but i also disagree with it. To me, Jesus wasn't Gd..but if this is how you feel, I respect it.

That's just Christianity. The bible says nothing about the romans seeing him as a threat, only them trying to appease the Jews. Do you have a different source, C.F.? I'd be interested in seeing it.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Just to clarify, the leaders of one Jewish sect at the time wanted him killed, not Jews in general, of course.

The Roman authorities did not like it that he considered himself to be a king. I will provide more sources later.

[Christian Zionist]

Amazing that there are still Christians who take out their anger on Jews and beat them while telling them "you killed Jesus" as if the person was alive two-thousand years ago and personally killed Jesus.  Chaim said that he faced similar incidents growing up in New York, but it's hard to believe that it still occurs. Unfortunately, the Jew who was beaten up came to the wrong conclusion that Muslims are not the enemy of Israel and Jews, based on this incident.  What the Bangladeshi did was still very heroic, goes to show that it's possible to be a good person, DESPITE Islam.   

Any Christian that calls a Jew Christ killer really doesn't know much about their own religion. One only has to read the New Testament to see that Cristian teachings state that it was the will of G-d that Jesus should die on the cross. Christian's who make that statement really speak from ignorance about their own religion.

I 100% agree with you CJD.  Christians believe because of the death of Jesus only our sins are atoned.  Then why would a Christian blame Jews if he wants his sins atoned?  Jesus even rebuked his disciple Peter when he told Jesus that He should not die!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7149916.stm

[mord]

The little fool in the photo is Jewish 2 of his friends who were arrested had chanukah decorations at their homes 1 of 3 people attacked was not Jewish these were drunken bums