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Offline DALMACIJA

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PLAN Z4 - 1994/1995
« on: December 30, 2007, 10:37:55 AM »
P L A N – Z4   !


In the year of 1995, a so called contact group sent by the UN created a plan named Z-4 with purpose to end the war in Croatia and Krajina between the Serbian minority and the Croatian government.

A short explanation of the content of this plan:
According to this plan the Serbian Republic of Krajina would reintegrate into Croatia. The agreed Serbian ethnic territories would get a full autonomy, with a Serbian flag, valuta, police and representatives in the Croatian government. It would end the war and provide rights to the Krajina Serbs. But Krajina would lose its state status and must reintegrate into Croatia.

Also according to this plan the Krajina Serbs would hand over 35% of the territory of RSK to the Croatians. 

The Croatians first rejected this plan but suddenly they singed it.
The Krajina Serbs in Knin under the government of Milan Martic did not accepted plan Z4 on time.

Milan Martic did not accept this plan because he was ordered by Slobodan Milosevic to reject it.

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What do you think of the plan Z4?
And was it a good action of the Krajina Serbs to reject it?
Even today the opinions are divided.



On 02-08-1995,
Milan Babic minister of foreign affairs of the Serbian Republic of Krajina
singed the Plan Z4 in front of Peter Galbraight in Belgrade.

At the same time the Croatians surrounded Krajina and Peter Galbraight represented the strongest country of the world and he was able to stop the Croatian invasion against Krajina because the Plan Z4 was signed on
02-08-1995 by Milan Babic.
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Re: PLAN Z4 - 1994/1995
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2007, 10:40:27 AM »
THink like a croat. 

You get their land but you give false sense of "freedom".

it sux
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Re: PLAN Z4 - 1994/1995
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 03:53:45 PM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on December 30, 2007, 10:40:27 AM
THink like a croat. 

You get their land but you give false sense of "freedom".

it sux

Everything was better than the Croatian invasion “oluja” against Krajina on 04-06-1995
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Re: PLAN Z4 - 1994/1995
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 03:55:18 PM »
Once the territory is "theirs",
they kill every non-NAZICROAT,
except the "neo"-NAZI VOLUNTEERS
sieg-heiling with them, in their rotten ranks...

 8;) 8;) 8;)

Take care,
when dealing with NAZICROATS...

But I agree,
everything (almost) was better than "oluja" ("storm")...

 :P

One better thing was to storm THEM.

 8;)

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Re: PLAN Z4 - 1994/1995
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 04:04:16 PM »
Does anybody remember Peter Galbraight? The former USA ambassador in Croatia.

On 02-06-1995,
Milan Babic minister of foreign affairs of the Serbian Republic of Krajina
singed the Plan Z4 in front of Peter Galbraight in Belgrade.

At the same time the Croatians surrounded Krajina and Peter Galbraight represented the strongest country of the world and he was able to stop the Croatian invasion against Krajina because the Plan Z4 was signed on
02-08-1995 by Milan Babic.
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Re: PLAN Z4 - 1994/1995
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 04:15:46 PM »
Quote from: Husar on December 30, 2007, 03:55:18 PM


But I agree,
everything (almost) was better than "oluja" ("storm")...

 :P

One better thing was to storm THEM.

 8;)






Of course we would lose under the plan Z4.
The Croats would take 35% of the Krajina’s territory.

Of course there would be victims. Because Tudjman’s policy was clear there is no room for a strong Serbian presents in Croatia.

But Tudjman did not wrote Z4.
According to Z4 we Krajina Serbs would remain charge  in Knin, Benkovac, Obrovac, Glina and in Korenica. In these mentioned places we would have our own national symbols, valuta and Serbian police. The other places would not fall under the autonomy and would be hand over to the Croatians. That is a sacrifice

We had rights for more, but this accroding to the plan Z4 was much, much more better than the collective banishment of our whole nation.
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Re: PLAN Z4 - 1994/1995
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2007, 04:25:46 PM »
If Milan Babic signed the plan Z4 on 02-08-1995 than we should be albe to reactivate the plan Z4 ! Croatia Signed the plan and the Serbs did also the same 2 days before the operation storm.
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Re: PLAN Z4 - 1994/1995
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2007, 04:37:34 PM »
Quote from: Husar on December 30, 2007, 03:55:18 PM
Once the territory is "theirs",
they kill every non-NAZICROAT,
except the "neo"-NAZI VOLUNTEERS
sieg-heiling with them, in their rotten ranks...

 8;) 8;) 8;)

Take care,
when dealing with NAZICROATS...

But I agree,
everything (almost) was better than "oluja" ("storm")...

 :P

One better thing was to storm THEM.

 8;)



Agreed
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Re: PLAN Z4 - 1994/1995
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2007, 10:44:30 AM »
Outline of the plan
The plan was meant to allow for the reintegration of the Republic of Serbian Krajina into Croatia by offering wide-ranging autonomy through most of Serbian Krajina. In addition, the plan called for the return of all croatian refugees. However, the plan would have required UNPROFOR to extend its mandate in order to implement the agreement, and the Croatian constitution would have to have been amended to accommodate the requirements of autonomy.

Some aspects of the proposed autonomy included the following:

Total monetary independence, which would have included fiscal policy and a separate currency pegged to the Kuna.
Krajina would have been a free trade area with no tariffs; this was meant to encourage economic growth in Krajina.
Elements of statehood including a coat of arms, flag, anthem, and police.
Eastern Slavonia, Western Srem, and Baranja would not have been included as part of the autonomous Krajina but would have undergone a separate reintegration process and would have had the presence of international troops for a period of five years. It was intended that this region would not be given a special status. Croatia would have regained control of the region after 5 years, in which an agreement with Croatian authorities would have been reached and the region would have been demilitarized (with the exception of a 5 kilometer zone along the international border and the Danube).
The 11 municipalities that had Serbian majorities in the 1981 census would have been given a special status and been called “Serbian Krajina”. Pursuant to constitutional law, these municipalities formed the districts of Krajina and Glina.
The constitution and laws of the Republic of Croatia would have been valid on the territory of Krajina, but they would have to have been approved and implemented by the local authorities.
Krajina would have had an election of the president of Krajina.
Krajina would have been demilitarized and the Croatian army could enter it only if called by the president of Krajina.
No official in Krajina would have been responsible to any authority in Croatia.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-4_plan
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