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Serbian Vlach Melodies
« on: January 07, 2008, 04:58:59 AM »
I found an interesting site with Serbian Vlach melodies. O0

wow, I never knew there were great Vlach melodies from Serbia O0

http://www.dunav.org.il/music/serbia/077_Juta.mp3

Juta a typical melody from Serbia

http://www.dunav.org.il/music/serbia/211_Raca_(Vlaski).mp3

Raca is a Vlach dance that was performed by many groups at the Vidin stage in Koprivchitsa.


http://www.dunav.org.il/music/serbia/085_Ropota.mp3

Rapota is a Vlach dance from Serbia

http://www.dunav.org.il/music/serbia/089_Vlajina.mp3

Vlajna is a Vlach dance from east Serbia.

This one is interesting.. Vlasko Kolo is Vlach dance that was brought to Israel by the Kolo ensemble during their visit here in the early 1990s. O0

http://www.dunav.org.il/music/serbia/090_Vlasko_Kolo.mp3
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 12:46:38 PM »
Excellent thread, JTFFan !!!

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"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 01:06:49 PM »
Thanks I just found it on the internet O0
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 01:10:48 PM »
Quote from: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 01:06:49 PM
Thanks I just found it on the internet O0

...you're kidding me ?!

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 ;D ;D ;D
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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 01:41:56 PM »
Quote from: Husar on January 07, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
Quote from: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 01:06:49 PM
Thanks I just found it on the internet O0

...you're kidding me ?!

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 ;D ;D ;D

I found it on a Serbian site with Serbian and Vlach Melodies, it's pretty good imo. O0
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 02:11:53 PM »
  as far as I know the name of "Vlach" is given to population of people that is considered inferior...in that region Serbian people give to Romanians that name, in other region Croats give to Serbs that name and even in my country some sort of Romanians give to other sort that name...
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 02:29:25 PM »
1.) Vlachs aren't considered inferior to most Balkan people, they just don't have a home they are an indigeous Latinized Balkan community, mainly Roman, Illyrian, Thracian, Slavic descent etc. They are predominantly Orthodox Christian and peaceful people.

2.) Also don't confuse the word Vlach with the Roma/Gypsy people "Vlax" or "Vlax Romani"

3.) In the past, Serbs historically mixed mainly with Slavs, Illyrians and some Vlachs.

5.) Some Vlach communities include the Romanians, Aromanians, Morlachs, Megleno-Romanians and Istro-Romanians

Wikipedia has a decent description of them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlachs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlachs_of_Serbia
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 02:39:52 PM »
  I leave there and I know what I see and hear! and it's not only my opinion on this! Wikipedia is very correct, but practically people call other people VLAH if they consider them inferior to them!
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 03:47:17 PM »
Quote from: Jasmina on January 07, 2008, 02:11:53 PM
  as far as I know the name of "Vlach" is given to population of people that is considered inferior...in that region Serbian people give to Romanians that name, in other region Croats give to Serbs that name and even in my country some sort of Romanians give to other sort that name...

I am definitely whatever
a NAZICROATS could (think) "insult" us.

Would NAZICROATS call me monkey,
I'd form a monkey-legion to get rid of them.

As long as NAZICROATS do not take
me for one of their kind, I'm PROUD.

Did you know that "SCHWEIZ" was an insult,
against the ones that were to become the "SCHWEIZ",
EXACTLY because they adopted the "insult"
profered upon them by their enemies ?

They adopted the "insult" as a mean of provokation.

This is done in the Serbian Spirit of the "INAT".

That's how we are, stubborn.

Some NAZICROAT would call me "flea, mosquito",
and I'd be the first to SUCK its evil-blood,
EXACTLY like a flea or a mosquito !!!

Long Live to the Vlachs.

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"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 03:52:37 PM »
  Hahaha YOU ARE FUNNY!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 04:04:20 PM »
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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 08:38:15 PM »
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 08:41:30 PM »
  I noticed that you (JTFFAN) are very interested about Serbian culture, history and people...very touchy  :), thank you! :)
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 08:44:42 PM »
Quote from: Jasmina on January 07, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
  I noticed that you (JTFFAN) are very interested about Serbian culture, history and people...very touchy  :), thank you! :)

Yes I love the Serbs and Vlachs. O0

My mom is Christian Vlach from Albania. ;)
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 08:45:41 PM »
Quote from: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 08:44:42 PM
Quote from: Jasmina on January 07, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
  I noticed that you (JTFFAN) are very interested about Serbian culture, history and people...very touchy  :), thank you! :)

Yes I love the Serbs and Vlachs. O0

My mom is Christian Vlach from Albania. ;)

  Aha so that makes sense!!! O0
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2008, 09:04:49 PM »
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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2008, 09:30:08 PM »
Quote from: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 08:44:42 PM
Quote from: Jasmina on January 07, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
  I noticed that you (JTFFAN) are very interested about Serbian culture, history and people...very touchy  :), thank you! :)

Yes I love the Serbs and Vlachs. O0

My mom is Christian Vlach from Albania. ;)


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Re: Serbian Vlach Melodies
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2008, 05:16:35 PM »
Quote from: Jasmina on January 07, 2008, 08:41:30 PM
  I noticed that you (JTFFAN) are very interested about Serbian culture, history and people...very touchy  :), thank you! :)

It was about time you noticed this,
and told him something nice, Sister...

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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