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[jdl4ever]

Well Tzvi, Esther the Queen pleaded with Akashverosh the Gentile king to save her people.

[Nolandforshalom]

But ultimately she acted.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

I never said not to be practical, and I said what I think he meant. Anway its not one issue, or this or that, but its the general mentality that needs to be broken, expecially if Jews want to get ride of the Galut mentality. Jews cant say ooh Bush is coming, maybe he will sove the problems, etc.  And most of all certainly not break principles and most importantly Laws (from G-d) and appease others or ask, etc.

[Ambiorix]

Possibly, but with G-d on our side do we really need any more help? It says in Genesis that there will always be Jews, so we will never loose.

Nolandforshalom; do you consider  atheist left-wing Jews as enemies of Israel,
or do you consider these as non-Jewish enemies?

Thanks,

Ambiorix.

BTW : it is good you don't thrust anybody except your own people.

[Nolandforshalom]

exactly. We must leave the Ghetto mentality of waiting for someones help behind, and leave to stand on our own two, strong, Jewish Feet. As HaRav said, "But the Jew is not a cripple. G-d made him with two legs, and the authentic healthy Jew walks on both of them"

[Nolandforshalom]

Possibly, but with G-d on our side do we really need any more help? It says in Genesis that there will always be Jews, so we will never loose.

Nolandforshalom; do you consider  atheist left-wing Jews as enemies of Israel,
or do you consider these as non-Jewish enemies?

Thanks,

Ambiorix.

BTW : it is good you don't thrust anybody except your own people.

If they are born of a Jewish Mother, than they are Jewish, regardless of what they believe. It is our job to bring them back to the Torah. They are enemies only if they try to harm us, e.x. Shalom Achshav. Regardless, we are to try to bring them to Torah.

[Ambiorix]

Possibly, but with G-d on our side do we really need any more help? It says in Genesis that there will always be Jews, so we will never loose.

Nolandforshalom; do you consider  atheist left-wing Jews as enemies of Israel,
or do you consider these as non-Jewish enemies?

Thanks,

Ambiorix.

BTW : it is good you don't thrust anybody except your own people.

If they are born of a Jewish Mother, than they are Jewish, regardless of what they believe. It is our job to bring them back to the Torah. They are enemies only if they try to harm us, e.x. Shalom Achshav. Regardless, we are to try to bring them to Torah.

What with Jews that are atheists?
I have a Jewish friend here in Belgium who is atheist, who doesn't eat kosher, but who does support Israel 100%.

Should I as a non-Jew tell him he must come back to the Jewish faith ?

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Possibly, but with G-d on our side do we really need any more help? It says in Genesis that there will always be Jews, so we will never loose.

Nolandforshalom; do you consider  atheist left-wing Jews as enemies of Israel,
or do you consider these as non-Jewish enemies?

Thanks,

Ambiorix.

BTW : it is good you don't thrust anybody except your own people.

If they are born of a Jewish Mother, than they are Jewish, regardless of what they believe. It is our job to bring them back to the Torah. They are enemies only if they try to harm us, e.x. Shalom Achshav. Regardless, we are to try to bring them to Torah.

What with Jews that are atheists?
I have a Jewish friend here in Belgium who is atheist, who doesn't eat kosher, but who does support Israel 100%.

Should I as a non-Jew tell him he must come back to the Jewish faith ?

You are not obligated directly from the 7 laws, but you can as a Hassid (going beyond the law).

[Nolandforshalom]

Absolutely. It is not an obligation, but a great Mitzvah to bring a lost Jew back to the Path of Torah.

[Ambiorix]

Possibly, but with G-d on our side do we really need any more help? It says in Genesis that there will always be Jews, so we will never loose.

Nolandforshalom; do you consider  atheist left-wing Jews as enemies of Israel,
or do you consider these as non-Jewish enemies?

Thanks,

Ambiorix.

BTW : it is good you don't thrust anybody except your own people.

If they are born of a Jewish Mother, than they are Jewish, regardless of what they believe. It is our job to bring them back to the Torah. They are enemies only if they try to harm us, e.x. Shalom Achshav. Regardless, we are to try to bring them to Torah.

What with Jews that are atheists?
I have a Jewish friend here in Belgium who is atheist, who doesn't eat kosher, but who does support Israel 100%.

Should I as a non-Jew tell him he must come back to the Jewish faith ?

You are not obligated, but you can.

Than I will.

He is a man of 72 years old.

[Nolandforshalom]

has he been an Atheist his whole life?

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

You dont have to even speak to him and convice him with your words, just tell him to go on www.Torahanytime.com  - click on Rabbi Mizrahi's lectures and expecially the one titles "Divine Information" - if hes an honest person he will change from that hour onward.

[Ambiorix]

Possibly, but with G-d on our side do we really need any more help? It says in Genesis that there will always be Jews, so we will never loose.

Nolandforshalom; do you consider  atheist left-wing Jews as enemies of Israel,
or do you consider these as non-Jewish enemies?

Thanks,

Ambiorix.

BTW : it is good you don't thrust anybody except your own people.

If they are born of a Jewish Mother, than they are Jewish, regardless of what they believe. It is our job to bring them back to the Torah. They are enemies only if they try to harm us, e.x. Shalom Achshav. Regardless, we are to try to bring them to Torah.

What with Jews that are atheists?
I have a Jewish friend here in Belgium who is atheist, who doesn't eat kosher, but who does support Israel 100%.

Should I as a non-Jew tell him he must come back to the Jewish faith ?

You are not obligated, but you can.

Than I will.

He is a man of 72 years old.

i think it will make him happy to know I am in contact with people like you.

But frankly, I have no idea what to tell him, other than " it's not good you belief in atheism"

Any suggestions?

He beliefs Torah can be misused, in a same way Christian Church misused the Bible , to terrorise the people.

[Nolandforshalom]

The Torah cannot be misused, as it is ultimate truth both at face value and in interpretation.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Possibly, but with G-d on our side do we really need any more help? It says in Genesis that there will always be Jews, so we will never loose.

Nolandforshalom; do you consider  atheist left-wing Jews as enemies of Israel,
or do you consider these as non-Jewish enemies?

Thanks,

Ambiorix.

BTW : it is good you don't thrust anybody except your own people.

If they are born of a Jewish Mother, than they are Jewish, regardless of what they believe. It is our job to bring them back to the Torah. They are enemies only if they try to harm us, e.x. Shalom Achshav. Regardless, we are to try to bring them to Torah.

What with Jews that are atheists?
I have a Jewish friend here in Belgium who is atheist, who doesn't eat kosher, but who does support Israel 100%.

Should I as a non-Jew tell him he must come back to the Jewish faith ?

You are not obligated, but you can.

Than I will.

He is a man of 72 years old.

i think it will make him happy to know I am in contact with people like you.

But frankly, I have no idea what to tell him, other than " it's not good you belief in atheism"

Any suggestions?

He beliefs Torah can be misused, in a same way Christian Church misused the Bible , to terrorise the people.

Just tell him the link and video I sent before. Tell him to dedicate 72 minutes of his life to the Truth (or even dont say that, just say to watch a video of a Rabbi claiming that Judasim can only be Divine with any questions and the proffs presented. If he takes it good, if not then thats his missed opportunity.

[Nolandforshalom]

a 72 year old man may not be quick to change his ways...

[Ambiorix]

The Torah cannot be misused, as it is ultimate truth both at face value and in interpretation.

I wish that was said every day on TV, instead of those satanic TV-commercials!

[Nolandforshalom]

thank you, I agree. We need to have our message out there.

[Boeregeneraal]

But Nolandforshalom,  if I was Ambiorix, and i read your posts, I would not talk to that Jew and try to get him back on the path. Simply because, Ambiorix is a gentile, and as such, in your view, should not be helping a Jew...besides...that's what Jewsh Rabbi's are there for!

The boat goes both ways...

[Ambiorix]

But Nolandforshalom,  if I was Ambiorix, and i read your posts, I would not talk to that Jew and try to get him back on the path. Simply because, Ambiorix is a gentile, and as such, in your view, should not be helping a Jew...besides...that's what Jewsh Rabbi's are there for!

The boat goes both ways...

Today ,  there's a awful lot of non-Jews that would like to see the state of Israel destroyed by the "philistines".
the nazis are back. the ideology is transformed. This time many nations (military capable, not necessarily retarded)
are planning to destroy the Israel & the West.

Lots of Western People regard Bush as a "puppet of Zionism", and blame the al-quaida attacks on the CIA or the Mossad.

The concerns many Europeans have, that our race/culture/religion/lifestyle is on the verge of destruction, is blamed by some on the Jews.
Those Jew-haters are a minority, but nevertheless dangerous.
The more dangerous part of the European population, are the P.C.-hypocrites,
that regard Israel as the last "racist" colony, that needs to be abolished.
This is the anti-racism tyranny of today, that goes hand in hand with the destruction of all nation-states.

So, all help is welcome I think. We share common enemies : the left-wing NWO internal enemy, and the third world enemy.

It is good that Jews and Gentiles help each-other, but Jews need to be fully aware, that trusting even "pro-Israeli" non-Jews is potentially dangerous.

Aren't many of  those pro-Israel left-wing Europeans that used to help in the kibbutzim in the 70-ties , today overtly hostile to Israel?
I hope one day the leftist among the Jews will be 2000 times less strong, and that the right-wing Jews will be 20000 times stronger,
than we get rid of the situation  the western world is currently in.

And for you who don't know :  the anti-racist people, hate the Israeli (not the Jews , they say ??) the most.

They always say Jews are not necesarily Israel-supporters, thus "not all Jews are bad"
 

[Nolandforshalom]

But Nolandforshalom,  if I was Ambiorix, and i read your posts, I would not talk to that Jew and try to get him back on the path. Simply because, Ambiorix is a gentile, and as such, in your view, should not be helping a Jew...besides...that's what Jewsh Rabbi's are there for!

The boat goes both ways...

Well that is you, being a spiteful person. HaTorah is truth for all humanity, that doesnt mean we need to trust Gentiles before G-d.

[Boeregeneraal]

But Nolandforshalom,  if I was Ambiorix, and i read your posts, I would not talk to that Jew and try to get him back on the path. Simply because, Ambiorix is a gentile, and as such, in your view, should not be helping a Jew...besides...that's what Jewsh Rabbi's are there for!

The boat goes both ways...

Well that is you, being a spiteful person. HaTorah is truth for all humanity, that doesnt mean we need to trust Gentiles before G-d.

Spitefull....I was merely implimenting your writings dear friend! If you find it selfish, you find your own ideas selfish
And you are right, G-D must be trusted a LOT more than fellow humans.

[Husar]

first, to the moderators, if you disagree with my post, please let me know instead of banning me. A willingness to debate shows intelligence, while avoidance shows cowardice. 

Ok, so,
Is this not a Jewish Forum? Why do we always insist on defending those of other religions? Our only true allies our ourselves, fellow Jews, and HaShem. Too often do we forget that the only people that have not hurt us are ourselves.

This is supposed to be a Kahanist Forum. Kahanists do not apologize to people of other religions for offending them. We defend the Jewish People, through any means nessicary, regardless if is angers catholics, Muslims, Hindus, or Buddhists.

I do not dislike Christians, I have many Christian friends. But i know that The Fate of Israel is solely in the Hands of the Jews and HaShem. No one else.

Thank you for the Serbs,
that were naively there for Jews, in WWII,
giving almost ONE million of useless Serbian Lives,
fighting against NAZISM, protecting EVEN
the LETHAL to them "albright", which is a Jewess,
INSTEAD of happily form SS divisions,
avoiding THUS being killed, since that WOULDN'T
be remembered by nolandforshalom.
And Life is precious, isn't it ?

Why should have Serbs died
for anybody else, than a Serb ?

GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT AN ALLY IS, nolandforshalom,
you could be called, RIGHT NOW: NOPLACEFORALLIES.

[Boeregeneraal]

first, to the moderators, if you disagree with my post, please let me know instead of banning me. A willingness to debate shows intelligence, while avoidance shows cowardice. 

Ok, so,
Is this not a Jewish Forum? Why do we always insist on defending those of other religions? Our only true allies our ourselves, fellow Jews, and HaShem. Too often do we forget that the only people that have not hurt us are ourselves.

This is supposed to be a Kahanist Forum. Kahanists do not apologize to people of other religions for offending them. We defend the Jewish People, through any means nessicary, regardless if is angers catholics, Muslims, Hindus, or Buddhists.

I do not dislike Christians, I have many Christian friends. But i know that The Fate of Israel is solely in the Hands of the Jews and HaShem. No one else.

Thank you for the Serbs,
that were naively there for Jews, in WWII,
giving almost ONE million of useless Serbian Lives,
fighting against NAZISM, protecting EVEN
the LETHAL to them "albright", which is a Jewess,
INSTEAD of happily form SS divisions,
avoiding THUS being killed, since that WOULDN'T
be remembered by nolandforshalom.
And Life is precious, isn't it ?

Why should have Serbs died
for anybody else, than a Serb ?

GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT AN ALLY IS, nolandforshalom,
you could be called, RIGHT NOW: NOPLACEFORALLIES.

Exactly Husar! You are very right, and I don't know what mr.noallies is trying to achieve.

I shall refrain from some facts...but if he continues with this silliness, I shall bring those facts to light, and use it to persuade mr noally

[Nolandforshalom]

Everyone here needs to stop putting words in my mouth. I trust in G-d, not in Gentiles. Gentiles have helped us, but they have killed many more of us that they have helped. My ideas are that if we rely on Gentiles instead of G-d we will die. Do not think you are stronger than G-d. I must wonder why you are so threatened by my ideas that you must gang up on me. This is becoming less and less a Kahanist forum, and more a Zionist Gentile Forum.