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ultra-Orthodox Jews against Isarel. What does Chaim say?
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
I dont concider myself Haredi and never did. I actually first read and was more in the state of mind from Rabbi Kahane's books. But the Torah is the Torah and one has to follow it. Anyway the way they label someone in Israel (the media) is just by their looks, and not by the Knowledge and Yirat Shamayim one has.
judeanoncapta:
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on January 09, 2008, 08:46:54 PM ---He mans that soon you'll join the rest of us and not consider yourself Charedi any more :D. I used to think I was Charedi when I was a little kid in Yeshiva but shortly realized that they were wrong on almost everything and tried to uproot my traditions and brainwash me into a blind mindless follower.
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I used to think of myself as Chareidi, after all, I live in Boro Park.
But after learning the Satmar Rebbe's seforim in depth(more than any Satmar Chassid has anyway) and comparing it to the teachings of Rabbi Daweedh Bar Hayim, I don't consider myself a Hareidi at all.
There is no question that Hareidi Rabbis have no idea what G-d wants to see occur in this world.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
First of all, learning about all the crimes commited by the secular agains't the Torah and agains't the Jewish people, who can blame any Jew not wanting to do anything with the State?
jdl4ever:
My great grandparent's Rabbi was the previous Satmur Rebbe 2 Rebbe's back and they took his advice by staying in Hungary and were killed in some concentration camp. I don't need to read the guy's Sefarim.
judeanoncapta:
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on January 09, 2008, 09:00:39 PM ---My great grandparent's Rabbi was the previous Satmur Rebbe 2 Rebbe's back and they took his advice by staying in Hungary and were killed in some concentration camp. I don't need to read the guy's Sefarim.
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Good, because none of the Satmars do either.
Otherwise they would realize that their Rebbe was a fool.
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