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ultra-Orthodox Jews against Isarel. What does Chaim say?

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judeanoncapta:

--- Quote from: Dexter on January 16, 2008, 11:57:18 AM --- ???

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Please elaborate.

Dexter:

--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on January 16, 2008, 08:42:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dexter on January 16, 2008, 11:57:18 AM --- ???

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Please elaborate.

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--- Quote ---OOOOOOH, SICK BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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judeanoncapta:
It's american slang meaning "You really beat him with that argument."

Kahane-Was-Right BT:

--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on January 09, 2008, 08:54:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on January 09, 2008, 08:46:54 PM ---He mans that soon you'll join the rest of us and not consider yourself Charedi any more  :D.  I used to think I was Charedi when I was a little kid in Yeshiva but shortly realized that they were wrong on almost everything and tried to uproot my traditions and brainwash me into a blind mindless follower. 

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I used to think of myself as Chareidi, after all, I live in Boro Park.

But after learning the Satmar Rebbe's seforim in depth(more than any Satmar Chassid has anyway) and comparing it to the teachings of Rabbi Daweedh Bar Hayim, I don't consider myself a Hareidi at all.

There is no question that Hareidi Rabbis have no idea what G-d wants to see occur in this world.

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Daweehd???

Kahane-Was-Right BT:

--- Quote from: jdl4ever on January 09, 2008, 10:29:08 PM ---It proves plenty.  The Rambam is saying that having a wicked Kingdom of Israel is better than having no state and being subjugated by foreigners such as the Greek-Syrians.

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No.  The Hashmoneans re-established Jewish (true Torah observant Jewish) control of the Beis Hamikdash.  He is not referring to the kings, wicked or otherwise.

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