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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2008, 03:31:39 PM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2008, 03:33:11 PM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!

only Bolshevikkk and Nazi Christian Identity people would think Judaism is a form of multiculturalism not heroic "Judeo-Christians." ;)

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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2008, 03:34:34 PM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!
No, Multiculturalism means cultural equality. Being against it doesn't mean other cultures wouldn't be allowed.
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2008, 03:36:06 PM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!

only Bolshevikkk and Nazi Christian Identity people would think Judaism is a form of multiculturalism not heroic "Judeo-Christians." ;)

Exactly. Italian, French and American Jews adopt and live cohesively with the cultures from those countries but maintain separate religious observance. That's NOT multi-culturalism but religious pluralism.

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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2008, 03:52:53 PM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!

only Bolshevikkk and Nazi Christian Identity people would think Judaism is a form of multiculturalism not heroic "Judeo-Christians." ;)

Exactly. Italian, French and American Jews adopt and live cohesively with the cultures from those countries but maintain separate religious observance. That's NOT multi-culturalism but religious pluralism.

Religious pluralism sums it up ;) :)

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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2008, 03:55:02 PM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!

only Bolshevikkk and Nazi Christian Identity people would think Judaism is a form of multiculturalism not heroic "Judeo-Christians." ;)

Exactly. Italian, French and American Jews adopt and live cohesively with the cultures from those countries but maintain separate religious observance. That's NOT multi-culturalism but religious pluralism.

Yes exactly the religius tolerance. Jewish people do contribute and never tried to enforce their culture or religion on host nations; They're oposite to muSSlime.  
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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

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13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

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« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2008, 04:06:16 PM »
Like chaim said in a previous show Multiculturalism teaches kids that the forefathers were evil for owning slaves

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« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2008, 03:04:32 AM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!

I think the best way to prevent this is the separation of church and state.
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But there is co-operation between Muslimes and Leftists in European countries.

The Leftists politicians give social care to the muzzies and enable them to breed, with the money which they have taken before from the hard working people.

The more Muzzies were born, the stronger will be the position of the Leftists, who are very hostile to Israel and the USA.

But this cooperation affects not only Muslimes, but other groups from third world too.

The more lazy evil people will flood into our countries, the stronger will be the hate against Israel and the Jews, because in my oppinion the cause of this whole antisemitism-issue is envy.

The more hard working and hungry for education people live in a country, the lesser is the antisemism.

But I have nothing against immigration in general or against people because they are different, but people who are unable to feed their families without social care and/or belonging to evil cultures, have no place in Western Countries.
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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2008, 03:36:36 AM »
In our era Multiculturalism is a way to erode the foundations of any standart society and to make it to an unstable society, culturally and political. It should be an interest of every society (or a state) to aspire for a cultural homogeneousness because that's the only way to unsure cultural and political stability. Ministries of Education and pedagogical contents have to mark an collective myths that creates united ethos.

We see in our days where does Multiculturalism leads us: Bosnia, Kosovo and the riots of Africans and Muslims in Paris streets. Today in the era of globalization, we live in a continual paradox:  fragmentation of ethnic groups that disintegrate the society and threats the peacefull lives of the individual (us, in fact). Cultural homogeneousness is the best way for society to keep stable.

Democracy that doesn't recognize the value of homogeneousness society is a short-days Democracy.

There is no doubt that Pluralist society that covers diffrent mentalities and cultures is a wanted ideal. But in my opinion in this days it is an ideal only and Multicultural societies become unstable when the ideal of Pluralism becomes empty of contents. I am a bit influenced of book "The Coming Anarchy" by Robert D. Kaplan - the book gives us the ability to understand that the future is full of conflicts inside states and also stable (for now) migration states as the USA wouldn't be immune of the inside disintegration of society. The nature of Mankind leads us to conflict and conflict will happen near the "borders" of diffrent cultures in the same society/state. Therefor, Multiculturalism is the fuel that would light the conflict. We can see it today in Pluralistic states inside Europe and we will see it in the future in states like the USA where Whites, Blacks and Hispanics will struggle. The tendency for fragmentation that comes hand to hand with integration is unavoidable.

Multiculturalism is not a good thing and the aspiration always should be towards synthesis and not towards the eternal existens of thesis and antithesis. History teaches us what will happen to societies that can't solve the differences inside them, from the cultural revolution of China and to Bosnia and West-Africa.




you say some smart things and I agree that multi cultaralism can ruin things..

However, it can also enhance a culture and make it better with the right culture.
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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2008, 02:10:27 PM »
In our era Multiculturalism is a way to erode the foundations of any standart society and to make it to an unstable society, culturally and political. It should be an interest of every society (or a state) to aspire for a cultural homogeneousness because that's the only way to unsure cultural and political stability. Ministries of Education and pedagogical contents have to mark an collective myths that creates united ethos.

We see in our days where does Multiculturalism leads us: Bosnia, Kosovo and the riots of Africans and Muslims in Paris streets. Today in the era of globalization, we live in a continual paradox:  fragmentation of ethnic groups that disintegrate the society and threats the peacefull lives of the individual (us, in fact). Cultural homogeneousness is the best way for society to keep stable.

Democracy that doesn't recognize the value of homogeneousness society is a short-days Democracy.

There is no doubt that Pluralist society that covers diffrent mentalities and cultures is a wanted ideal. But in my opinion in this days it is an ideal only and Multicultural societies become unstable when the ideal of Pluralism becomes empty of contents. I am a bit influenced of book "The Coming Anarchy" by Robert D. Kaplan - the book gives us the ability to understand that the future is full of conflicts inside states and also stable (for now) migration states as the USA wouldn't be immune of the inside disintegration of society. The nature of Mankind leads us to conflict and conflict will happen near the "borders" of diffrent cultures in the same society/state. Therefor, Multiculturalism is the fuel that would light the conflict. We can see it today in Pluralistic states inside Europe and we will see it in the future in states like the USA where Whites, Blacks and Hispanics will struggle. The tendency for fragmentation that comes hand to hand with integration is unavoidable.

Multiculturalism is not a good thing and the aspiration always should be towards synthesis and not towards the eternal existens of thesis and antithesis. History teaches us what will happen to societies that can't solve the differences inside them, from the cultural revolution of China and to Bosnia and West-Africa.


you say some smart things and I agree that multi cultaralism can ruin things..

However, it can also enhance a culture and make it better with the right culture.
How so ?
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2008, 03:51:42 PM »
In our era Multiculturalism is a way to erode the foundations of any standart society and to make it to an unstable society, culturally and political. It should be an interest of every society (or a state) to aspire for a cultural homogeneousness because that's the only way to unsure cultural and political stability. Ministries of Education and pedagogical contents have to mark an collective myths that creates united ethos.

We see in our days where does Multiculturalism leads us: Bosnia, Kosovo and the riots of Africans and Muslims in Paris streets. Today in the era of globalization, we live in a continual paradox:  fragmentation of ethnic groups that disintegrate the society and threats the peacefull lives of the individual (us, in fact). Cultural homogeneousness is the best way for society to keep stable.

Democracy that doesn't recognize the value of homogeneousness society is a short-days Democracy.

There is no doubt that Pluralist society that covers diffrent mentalities and cultures is a wanted ideal. But in my opinion in this days it is an ideal only and Multicultural societies become unstable when the ideal of Pluralism becomes empty of contents. I am a bit influenced of book "The Coming Anarchy" by Robert D. Kaplan - the book gives us the ability to understand that the future is full of conflicts inside states and also stable (for now) migration states as the USA wouldn't be immune of the inside disintegration of society. The nature of Mankind leads us to conflict and conflict will happen near the "borders" of diffrent cultures in the same society/state. Therefor, Multiculturalism is the fuel that would light the conflict. We can see it today in Pluralistic states inside Europe and we will see it in the future in states like the USA where Whites, Blacks and Hispanics will struggle. The tendency for fragmentation that comes hand to hand with integration is unavoidable.

Multiculturalism is not a good thing and the aspiration always should be towards synthesis and not towards the eternal existens of thesis and antithesis. History teaches us what will happen to societies that can't solve the differences inside them, from the cultural revolution of China and to Bosnia and West-Africa.


you say some smart things and I agree that multi cultaralism can ruin things..

However, it can also enhance a culture and make it better with the right culture.
How so ?

Let's look at the USA...Started out with basiclly British discidents.  Then came other peoples who immigrated to this country..italians, french, irish amongst many examples. this country is a melting pot of different cultures.  Certainly, it is better to weed out evil aspects of every culture...

And look Israel.. While most people in Israel are Jewish, you have Persian, you have morrocan, you have russian, you have ashkenazim, you have spanish, you have ethopian you have sabra..etc etc etc...while we all follwo the same religion, we learn about the missing pieces of our brethren...This is also where multi-cultralism is a good thing.
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2008, 04:04:21 PM »
Still Americans were different brand of Europeans including european Jews and Israelis are different brands of Jews, true multicultism is to acept not embrace the culture of negro al Sharpton loving savages or palestinian FATAH-HAMAS canibals.
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2008, 04:24:38 PM »
Still Americans were different brand of Europeans including european Jews and Israelis are different brands of Jews, true multicultism is to acept not embrace the culture of negro al Sharpton loving savages or PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi FATAH-HAMAS canibals.

Multiculturalism is what destroys cultures and peoples, but liberals don't care and are self-loathing in general.

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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2008, 10:45:52 AM »
In our era Multiculturalism is a way to erode the foundations of any standart society and to make it to an unstable society, culturally and political. It should be an interest of every society (or a state) to aspire for a cultural homogeneousness because that's the only way to unsure cultural and political stability. Ministries of Education and pedagogical contents have to mark an collective myths that creates united ethos.

We see in our days where does Multiculturalism leads us: Bosnia, Kosovo and the riots of Africans and Muslims in Paris streets. Today in the era of globalization, we live in a continual paradox:  fragmentation of ethnic groups that disintegrate the society and threats the peacefull lives of the individual (us, in fact). Cultural homogeneousness is the best way for society to keep stable.

Democracy that doesn't recognize the value of homogeneousness society is a short-days Democracy.

There is no doubt that Pluralist society that covers diffrent mentalities and cultures is a wanted ideal. But in my opinion in this days it is an ideal only and Multicultural societies become unstable when the ideal of Pluralism becomes empty of contents. I am a bit influenced of book "The Coming Anarchy" by Robert D. Kaplan - the book gives us the ability to understand that the future is full of conflicts inside states and also stable (for now) migration states as the USA wouldn't be immune of the inside disintegration of society. The nature of Mankind leads us to conflict and conflict will happen near the "borders" of diffrent cultures in the same society/state. Therefor, Multiculturalism is the fuel that would light the conflict. We can see it today in Pluralistic states inside Europe and we will see it in the future in states like the USA where Whites, Blacks and Hispanics will struggle. The tendency for fragmentation that comes hand to hand with integration is unavoidable.

Multiculturalism is not a good thing and the aspiration always should be towards synthesis and not towards the eternal existens of thesis and antithesis. History teaches us what will happen to societies that can't solve the differences inside them, from the cultural revolution of China and to Bosnia and West-Africa.


you say some smart things and I agree that multi cultaralism can ruin things..

However, it can also enhance a culture and make it better with the right culture.
How so ?

Let's look at the USA...Started out with basiclly British discidents.  Then came other peoples who immigrated to this country..italians, french, irish amongst many examples. this country is a melting pot of different cultures.  Certainly, it is better to weed out evil aspects of every culture...

And look Israel.. While most people in Israel are Jewish, you have Persian, you have morrocan, you have russian, you have ashkenazim, you have spanish, you have ethopian you have sabra..etc etc etc...while we all follwo the same religion, we learn about the missing pieces of our brethren...This is also where multi-cultralism is a good thing.
The USA is not a melting pot. A melting pot is a way to force a cultural homogeneousness. The USA is a polycentric (Having several central parts) nation, so there will be never a cultural homogeneousness. While whites of diffrent but similar culture can be, somehow, tolerence to each other's culture, it can't be tolerence to black or Islamic culture. Furthermore the USA is not an ethnic nation but a civilian nation.

Israel is an ethnic nation, and until you don't live here you don't know what hatred there is to other Jews because of their culture, skin colour and the place they came from. Israeli-Jewish society is not very stable because it have no common cultural base, that's why I would like to have more cultural homogeneousness in here although he are not in a bad place because we did much in the cultural aspect and the idea of gathering the exiled Jews.
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2008, 11:48:22 AM »
Still Americans were different brand of Europeans including european Jews and Israelis are different brands of Jews, true multicultism is to acept not embrace the culture of negro al Sharpton loving savages or PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi FATAH-HAMAS canibals.

Multiculturalism is what destroys cultures and peoples, but liberals don't care and are self-loathing in general.

I think the problem is that liberals define multi culturalism as anything that isn't white and european.

I define multi culturalism as literally, different cultures including white and european cultures...
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« Reply #40 on: January 28, 2008, 11:51:28 AM »
In our era Multiculturalism is a way to erode the foundations of any standart society and to make it to an unstable society, culturally and political. It should be an interest of every society (or a state) to aspire for a cultural homogeneousness because that's the only way to unsure cultural and political stability. Ministries of Education and pedagogical contents have to mark an collective myths that creates united ethos.

We see in our days where does Multiculturalism leads us: Bosnia, Kosovo and the riots of Africans and Muslims in Paris streets. Today in the era of globalization, we live in a continual paradox:  fragmentation of ethnic groups that disintegrate the society and threats the peacefull lives of the individual (us, in fact). Cultural homogeneousness is the best way for society to keep stable.

Democracy that doesn't recognize the value of homogeneousness society is a short-days Democracy.

There is no doubt that Pluralist society that covers diffrent mentalities and cultures is a wanted ideal. But in my opinion in this days it is an ideal only and Multicultural societies become unstable when the ideal of Pluralism becomes empty of contents. I am a bit influenced of book "The Coming Anarchy" by Robert D. Kaplan - the book gives us the ability to understand that the future is full of conflicts inside states and also stable (for now) migration states as the USA wouldn't be immune of the inside disintegration of society. The nature of Mankind leads us to conflict and conflict will happen near the "borders" of diffrent cultures in the same society/state. Therefor, Multiculturalism is the fuel that would light the conflict. We can see it today in Pluralistic states inside Europe and we will see it in the future in states like the USA where Whites, Blacks and Hispanics will struggle. The tendency for fragmentation that comes hand to hand with integration is unavoidable.

Multiculturalism is not a good thing and the aspiration always should be towards synthesis and not towards the eternal existens of thesis and antithesis. History teaches us what will happen to societies that can't solve the differences inside them, from the cultural revolution of China and to Bosnia and West-Africa.


you say some smart things and I agree that multi cultaralism can ruin things..

However, it can also enhance a culture and make it better with the right culture.
How so ?

Let's look at the USA...Started out with basiclly British discidents.  Then came other peoples who immigrated to this country..italians, french, irish amongst many examples. this country is a melting pot of different cultures.  Certainly, it is better to weed out evil aspects of every culture...

And look Israel.. While most people in Israel are Jewish, you have Persian, you have morrocan, you have russian, you have ashkenazim, you have spanish, you have ethopian you have sabra..etc etc etc...while we all follwo the same religion, we learn about the missing pieces of our brethren...This is also where multi-cultralism is a good thing.
The USA is not a melting pot. A melting pot is a way to force a cultural homogeneousness. The USA is a polycentric (Having several central parts) nation, so there will be never a cultural homogeneousness. While whites of diffrent but similar culture can be, somehow, tolerence to each other's culture, it can't be tolerence to black or Islamic culture. Furthermore the USA is not an ethnic nation but a civilian nation.

Israel is an ethnic nation, and until you don't live here you don't know what hatred there is to other Jews because of their culture, skin colour and the place they came from. Israeli-Jewish society is not very stable because it have no common cultural base, that's why I would like to have more cultural homogeneousness in here although he are not in a bad place because we did much in the cultural aspect and the idea of gathering the exiled Jews.

I hear what you are saying, Dexter. I don't live in ISrael and still, you are indicating to me that there are still hatred of Jews for each other because of racial and cultural differences even though they are all Jews...

I think that's the problem with creating a Jewish State that is secular...IF Israel were a religious Zionist state, all Jews of different tribes and cultures would ahev a common goal and a common love for one another.  Being an American Jew, i don't see as many wall to wall JEws as you do on a daily basis..so whenever I see a Jew, I automatically love him/her...But I do see what you mean.
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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #41 on: January 28, 2008, 12:05:50 PM »
That have nothing to do with religiouse or seculer state. The religiouse Jews also hate each other for raciel diffrences, especially Charedi Jews.
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« Reply #42 on: January 28, 2008, 12:08:00 PM »
That have nothing to do with religiouse or seculer state. The religiouse Jews also hate each other for raciel diffrences, especially Charedi Jews.

Then they are doing what's unJewish not liking each other for racial differences....That's breaking one of the top 10 mitzvot received on Sinai...The same goes if it is happening vice versa.
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« Reply #43 on: January 28, 2008, 12:18:54 PM »
That have nothing to do with religiouse or seculer state. The religiouse Jews also hate each other for raciel diffrences, especially Charedi Jews.

Then they are doing what's unJewish not liking each other for racial differences....That's breaking one of the top 10 mitzvot received on Sinai...The same goes if it is happening vice versa.

Exactly, they shouldn't racially divide and discriminate

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« Reply #44 on: January 28, 2008, 07:42:47 PM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!

only Bolshevikkk and Nazi Christian Identity people would think Judaism is a form of multiculturalism not heroic "Judeo-Christians." ;)

Exactly. Italian, French and American Jews adopt and live cohesively with the cultures from those countries but maintain separate religious observance. That's NOT multi-culturalism but religious pluralism.

Religious pluralism and multiculturalism are seen as the same thing by secular, especially when they deal with Jews. Most seculars think that Jews are outside general culture because they don't intermarry.
Different religions also mean different cultures, if you advocate ONE only culture, then there's no place for Judaism. Be carefull. I don't find the clue why so many peple here are inclined to trust so much in Gentiles!!!!!!!According to seculars and Christians (though they use different arguments), Jews are misfits, they keep meaningless dietary laws which irk society, don't intermarry thus being racist, and fled to "Falastina" commiting the "crime" of "invading" it and the crime of not assimilating into their countries. Don't trust in Gentiles if you want to survive. Only respect them, but don't take them for allies, except for Noahides and some very few others who are honest

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« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2008, 08:02:00 PM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!

only Bolshevikkk and Nazi Christian Identity people would think Judaism is a form of multiculturalism not heroic "Judeo-Christians." ;)

Exactly. Italian, French and American Jews adopt and live cohesively with the cultures from those countries but maintain separate religious observance. That's NOT multi-culturalism but religious pluralism.

Religious pluralism and multiculturalism are seen as the same thing by secular, especially when they deal with Jews. Most seculars think that Jews are outside general culture because they don't intermarry.
Different religions also mean different cultures, if you advocate ONE only culture, then there's no place for Judaism. Be carefull. I don't find the clue why so many peple here are inclined to trust so much in Gentiles!!!!!!!According to seculars and Christians (though they use different arguments), Jews are misfits, they keep meaningless dietary laws which irk society, don't intermarry thus being racist, and fled to "Falastina" commiting the "crime" of "invading" it and the crime of not assimilating into their countries. Don't trust in Gentiles if you want to survive. Only respect them, but don't take them for allies, except for Noahides and some very few others who are honest

Raul you are right. I see the problem too.

But the more people flood to the first world with poor working ethik, the more will socialism grow.

This is a fact. Muslimes are unable to feed their families under "natural" conditions. They must vote for socialist political parties to survive.

This is a real threat.

In Germany 90 percent of all Muslimes vote for socialist parties.

European antisemitism + Islam is deadly. Please think about it.
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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2008, 06:32:55 AM »
Be carefull. Christians may find that allowing Judaism is also a form of multiculitalism. One homogenoues culture un USA and Europe would mean no Jews!!!!!!!!

only Bolshevikkk and Nazi Christian Identity people would think Judaism is a form of multiculturalism not heroic "Judeo-Christians." ;)

Exactly. Italian, French and American Jews adopt and live cohesively with the cultures from those countries but maintain separate religious observance. That's NOT multi-culturalism but religious pluralism.

Religious pluralism and multiculturalism are seen as the same thing by secular, especially when they deal with Jews. Most seculars think that Jews are outside general culture because they don't intermarry.
Different religions also mean different cultures, if you advocate ONE only culture, then there's no place for Judaism. Be carefull. I don't find the clue why so many peple here are inclined to trust so much in Gentiles!!!!!!!According to seculars and Christians (though they use different arguments), Jews are misfits, they keep meaningless dietary laws which irk society, don't intermarry thus being racist, and fled to "Falastina" commiting the "crime" of "invading" it and the crime of not assimilating into their countries. Don't trust in Gentiles if you want to survive. Only respect them, but don't take them for allies, except for Noahides and some very few others who are honest

Jews shud not trust any people but G-d. All member here are zionist and I dare to say more pro jewish than mayority of Israeli left and liberal self hating Jews from America. RM is divisive and arogant to tell Jews who they may trust or not. It's their choice not yours or mine.   
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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2008, 09:41:25 PM »
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Jews shud not trust any people but G-d. All member here are zionist and I dare to say more pro jewish than mayority of Israeli left and liberal self hating Jews from America. RM is divisive and arogant to tell Jews who they may trust or not. It's their choice not yours or mine.   


No, I cannot tell Jews whom they must trust. But I certainly can and have every right to oppose those Jews (or from any other nation) who advocate Goyshe rights to ban things. I am just defending myself. I am a goy, but don't trust in the majority of goyim, and certainly don't want other gentiles interfering in my privacy. If Jews make alliances with people of different religions, and support right wings Christians, they are only preparing a new inquisition. And it's obvious that Inquisition will burn me also for not eating blood ( Dam min Hachai), as they burnt Jews for not eating pork!!!!!!!
To oppose multiculturalism, means also to oppose religious freedom..... without that freedom we are lost!!!! The dominant culture/religion shall be either Crhistianity or secularism, and I don't fit into any of them. So I have every right to protest about it and defend myself!!!!!!

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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2008, 10:29:19 PM »
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Jews shud not trust any people but G-d. All member here are zionist and I dare to say more pro jewish than mayority of Israeli left and liberal self hating Jews from America. RM is divisive and arogant to tell Jews who they may trust or not. It's their choice not yours or mine.   


No, I cannot tell Jews whom they must trust. But I certainly can and have every right to oppose those Jews (or from any other nation) who advocate Goyshe rights to ban things. I am just defending myself. I am a goy, but don't trust in the majority of goyim, and certainly don't want other gentiles interfering in my privacy. If Jews make alliances with people of different religions, and support right wings Christians, they are only preparing a new inquisition. And it's obvious that Inquisition will burn me also for not eating blood ( Dam min Hachai), as they burnt Jews for not eating pork!!!!!!!
To oppose multiculturalism, means also to oppose religious freedom..... without that freedom we are lost!!!! The dominant culture/religion shall be either Crhistianity or secularism, and I don't fit into any of them. So I have every right to protest about it and defend myself!!!!!!

Multiculturalism =ethnic gangs, ghettos and muSSlim rapists on the loose.

Jews and western europeans in the west, third worlders in the third world.

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Re: About Multiculturalism
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2008, 10:58:37 PM »
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Jews shud not trust any people but G-d. All member here are zionist and I dare to say more pro jewish than mayority of Israeli left and liberal self hating Jews from America. RM is divisive and arogant to tell Jews who they may trust or not. It's their choice not yours or mine.   


No, I cannot tell Jews whom they must trust. But I certainly can and have every right to oppose those Jews (or from any other nation) who advocate Goyshe rights to ban things. I am just defending myself. I am a goy, but don't trust in the majority of goyim, and certainly don't want other gentiles interfering in my privacy. If Jews make alliances with people of different religions, and support right wings Christians, they are only preparing a new inquisition. And it's obvious that Inquisition will burn me also for not eating blood ( Dam min Hachai), as they burnt Jews for not eating pork!!!!!!!
To oppose multiculturalism, means also to oppose religious freedom..... without that freedom we are lost!!!! The dominant culture/religion shall be either Crhistianity or secularism, and I don't fit into any of them. So I have every right to protest about it and defend myself!!!!!!

Multiculturalism =ethnic gangs, ghettos and muSSlim rapists on the loose.

Jews and western europeans in the west, third worlders in the third world.

Multiculturalism = Extinction of prosperous Westerners