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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2008, 01:15:30 PM »
The Ancient Assyrians of Semitic origins from the upper Tigerous region and were not Arabians: Arabs but with origins from the city state of Assur (Hebrew).  Now if one wishes to discuss the Hittites and Hitusha that is a fascinating subject.
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The Assyrians are whiter then the Arabs, I saw a picture of tham.

Some Assyrians have additional influences, but overall they are Middle Eastern or at least indigenous to the Middle East.

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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2008, 01:35:20 PM »
The Ancient Assyrians of Semitic origins from the upper Tigerous region and were not Arabians: Arabs but with origins from the city state of Assur (Hebrew).  Now if one wishes to discuss the Hittites and Hitusha that is a fascinating subject.
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The Assyrians are whiter then the Arabs, I saw a picture of tham.

Some Assyrians have additional influences, but overall they are Middle Eastern or at least indigenous to the Middle East.
The Middle East people befor the Arab invasion were mostly light skinned.
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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2008, 01:58:14 PM »
The Ancient Assyrians of Semitic origins from the upper Tigerous region and were not Arabians: Arabs but with origins from the city state of Assur (Hebrew).  Now if one wishes to discuss the Hittites and Hitusha that is a fascinating subject.
Ashur*

The Assyrians are whiter then the Arabs, I saw a picture of tham.

Some Assyrians have additional influences, but overall they are Middle Eastern or at least indigenous to the Middle East.
The Middle East people befor the Arab invasion were mostly light skinned.

That's very obvious with the Persians, many of them are white..

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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2008, 02:03:54 PM »
The Ancient Assyrians of Semitic origins from the upper Tigerous region and were not Arabians: Arabs but with origins from the city state of Assur (Hebrew).  Now if one wishes to discuss the Hittites and Hitusha that is a fascinating subject.
Ashur*

The Assyrians are whiter then the Arabs, I saw a picture of tham.

Some Assyrians have additional influences, but overall they are Middle Eastern or at least indigenous to the Middle East.
The Middle East people befor the Arab invasion were mostly light skinned.

That's very obvious with the Persians, many of them are white..
They are not Semites. I was talking about the Semites people as the Jews, Phoenicians, northern Arabs, Babylonians etc'. But they were darker then the Europrean people, so it's s somehow in the middle...
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2008, 04:37:33 PM »
Ethnic arabs tend to arabicize everything/everybody, very easily.
They just swallowed regions, Countries, Peoples they encountered,
for the time of their (not finished yet) invasion.

Kabyles, Berbers, didn't even speak arab,
neither were they muSSlims, before the arab arrival.

The same goes for the Assyrians.

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2008, 04:55:57 PM »
Arabs are not Semites they are Hamites... ;)
http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/semites/semites.html
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2008, 05:03:20 PM »
Arabs are not Semites they are Hamites... ;)
http://www.somebodyhelpme.info/semites/semites.html

Well, where do the Assyrians belong ?

Semites, or Hamites ?

 ???
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
--

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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2008, 05:46:26 PM »
So..? Many Jews also look like Arabs.

Oh, no, not Ashkenazi Jews. They don't look like arabs at all. Sephardic Jews are mixed with arabs, though, and look different. Many of them look like arabs. They also have a lower IQ, according to some recent studies. Ashkenazi IQ is 110. Sephardic IQ is below 100. I think it's 91. There was a discussion about it in the Commentary Magazine.

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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2008, 06:29:44 PM »
So..? Many Jews also look like Arabs.

Oh, no, not Ashkenazi Jews. They don't look like arabs at all. Sefardic Jews are mixed with arabs, though, and look different. Many of them look like arabs. They also have a lower IQ, according to some recent studies. Ashkenazi IQ is 110. Sefardic IQ is below 100. I think it's 91. There was a discussion about it in the Commentary Magazine.

Correct, Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ O0
Sefardic Jews can also be quite brilliant and have high IQ's O0


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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2008, 06:36:05 PM »
So..? Many Jews also look like Arabs.

Oh, no, not Ashkenazi Jews. They don't look like arabs at all. Sefardic Jews are mixed with arabs, though, and look different. Many of them look like arabs. They also have a lower IQ, according to some recent studies. Ashkenazi IQ is 110. Sefardic IQ is below 100. I think it's 91. There was a discussion about it in the Commentary Magazine.
oh not that is not true. the jews from the time of the tanakh looked today alot more like sephardic jews. ashkenazi jews mixed with european christians which is why today many ashkenazim are very white and have blond hair

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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2008, 07:19:33 PM »
So..? Many Jews also look like Arabs.

Oh, no, not Ashkenazi Jews. They don't look like arabs at all. Sefardic Jews are mixed with arabs, though, and look different. Many of them look like arabs. They also have a lower IQ, according to some recent studies. Ashkenazi IQ is 110. Sefardic IQ is below 100. I think it's 91. There was a discussion about it in the Commentary Magazine.
oh not that is not true. the jews from the time of the tanakh looked today alot more like Sefardic jews. ashkenazi jews mixed with european christians which is why today many ashkenazim are very white and have blond hair


Yes, all Jews come from the land of Israel and were righteous ancient indigenous Middle Eastern people, then the Arabs came along and Nazified-Arabized-Stole and pillaged and plundered everything.
Arabs nowadays have Sub-Saharan admixture from Slavery, Arabs mixed with blacks and are still enslaving them, that's why today's muSSlim Arabs are the most different than any other people in the Middle East.

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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2008, 05:34:12 AM »
ashkenazi jews mixed with european christians which is why today many ashkenazim are very white and have blond hair

According to an Israeli geneticist who has done a lot of comparative studies of the Jewish DNA, this is not true. There are genes for blondness and light-colored eyes that are native to Jews. They are less common than brown hair, but they exist nonetheless. These are native Jewish phenotypes. Keep in mind that "blond" Jews are not as blond as Scandinavians. They may be tow-heads as babies, but become dish-water blonds when they mature. It's a misconception to think that they have become mixed with the surrounding populations. He has done comparative studies on Jews and the Slavic and Germanic populations among whom they lived. He concluded that there is very little admixture. There is a lot more in common genetically between Ashkenazi Jews and the Kurds, for example, with whom they had no or little contact.

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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2008, 07:05:05 AM »
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According to an Israeli geneticist who has done a lot of comparative studies of the Jewish DNA, this is not true. There are genes for blondness and light-colored eyes that are native to Jews. They are less common than brown hair, but they exist nonetheless. These are native Jewish phenotypes. Keep in mind that "blond" Jews are not as blond as Scandinavians. They may be tow-heads as babies, but become dish-water blonds when they mature. It's a misconception to think that they have become mixed with the surrounding populations. He has done comparative studies on Jews and the Slavic and Germanic populations among whom they lived. He concluded that there is very little admixture. There is a lot more in common genetically between Ashkenazi Jews and the Kurds, for example, with whom they had no or little contact.
There were conversions all through the middle ages, especially from the Christian clergy and educated Moslems. It was not unusual for a Moslem to travel to a Christian country to convert to Judaism and vice versa. Also DNA evidence supports the hypothesis that the first Jews in many more distant (from Mediterranean culture) areas were men, probably traders, who married local women and founded communities. They were probably joined later by larger migrations of Jews from the south. Also keep in mind that at one time 10 % of the Roman Empire was Jewish. Most Europeans, therefore, probably have some distant Jewish ancestry. Although blond hair isn't common in southern European people, there were some blond hair people that were mixing with the Jews after the great rebelion of 66-70 B.C.E., plus enter the mixing with Europeans and there you have it.

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/97/12/6769

Also, this study based on mitochondrial DNA that reveals that 40% of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from just 4 females from the Middle East 2000 years ago. The remaining 60% cannot be precisely identified but Middle Eastern origin is probable for many them.

The Y-chromosome of course is inherited from the father and the mitochondrial DNA from the mother. This testifies to a striking and remarkable degree of genetic stability over the centuries.

As for the distribution of blond hair in Jewish populations, in those regions where blond hair predominates in the non-Jewish population the proportion of blond hair in the Jewish population is lower; in regions where blond hair in the Gentile population is rare, blond hair in the Jewish population is proportionately higher.

It's worth pointing out as well that the Kabyle of North Africa have golden hair and Esau is supposed to have had red hair. Sefardic Jews also have some blond hair people, but they are in lower number then in Ashkenazi Jewish population.

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Oh, no, not Ashkenazi Jews. They don't look like arabs at all. Sefardic Jews are mixed with arabs, though, and look different. Many of them look like arabs. They also have a lower IQ, according to some recent studies. Ashkenazi IQ is 110. Sefardic IQ is below 100. I think it's 91. There was a discussion about it in the Commentary Magazine.
In the past when the Ashkenazi Jewish areas were pretty close the Jews looked darker, but with time they became lighter because of mixing. Most Sefardics are lighter than the Arabs. Plus, the Sefardic Jews in Israel only have lower IQ and that's because what happend to us in the 1950', while Sefardics in other places have pretty high IQ, sometimes higher than Ashkenazi one. If Sefardics would have live in European life style they would have a higher IQ. It's proved that 95% of the Jews in north-Africa, Iraq and Persia (I am not sure about Persia) studied in weastern schools. There are 10,0000 Morrocon Jews in Spain and they have higher number of proffersors than the morrocon Jews in Israel who are numbered in 1,000,000.
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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2008, 10:43:42 AM »
Just wanted to tell you all that I posted a pretty interesting article called: Blue-eyed people share single ancestor living 10,000 years ago: study

I hope you all enjoy..  I found it particularly interesting...
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Are Assyrians arabs?
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2008, 11:12:54 AM »
Just wanted to tell you all that I posted a pretty interesting article called: Blue-eyed people share single ancestor living 10,000 years ago: study

I hope you all enjoy..  I found it particularly interesting...
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