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What do you think about police brutality?

1/ It should be eliminated
7 (28%)
2/ It should stay at present levels
1 (4%)
3/ There should be more of it.
3 (12%)
4/ It should be MANDATORY in high crime areas.
14 (56%)

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Offline Dr. Dan

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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2008, 05:31:43 PM »
Do i want some redneck cop with a 90 IQ to have the right to beat me if he choses?  No.  Should a police officer be allowed to use force or fire his gun if he is being threatened?  Yes.

Some peoples answers really surprise me...  What if JTF had a protest.  Would u think it's ok to get beat then???  How about if it was a Black cop who had a grudge against Jews?  Be careful what u wish for.

I said in high crime areas where the cop is being threatened and the one being arrested is being extremely disobedient
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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2008, 05:38:11 PM »
Police themselves can be criminals.  Just because they wear a uniform doesn't give them any moral high ground.  Therefore the public should keep a watch on the police.

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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2008, 05:40:42 PM »
Do i want some redneck cop with a 90 IQ to have the right to beat me if he choses?  No.  Should a police officer be allowed to use force or fire his gun if he is being threatened?  Yes.

Some peoples answers really surprise me...  What if JTF had a protest.  Would u think it's ok to get beat then???  How about if it was a Black cop who had a grudge against Jews?  Be careful what u wish for.

I said in high crime areas where the cop is being threatened and the one being arrested is being extremely disobedient


I never disagreed with you, i was just stating my opinion on the subject.  I was surprised with the comments which reflected the sadistic "Yeaaaaaaaaa, beat the hell out of the criminals!" attitude but they don't surprise me.  After all, people cheered when they used to feed people to lions in the Roman days.

I think its justifiable for them to use force when threatened weather its a high crime area or not, but using unecessary force ie. batoning/tasing/pepper spraying when u could control the situation otherwise is wrong.  I fully understand there is people out there who don't understand anything except force though. 
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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2008, 05:41:58 PM »
Police themselves can be criminals.  Just because they wear a uniform doesn't give them any moral high ground.  Therefore the public should keep a watch on the police.

I agree with this too.  Naturally, that job is going to attract many "power hungry" individuals.  Giving them power is necessary for their job, but they need to be monitored and regulated more.
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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2008, 05:43:37 PM »
Police themselves can be criminals.  Just because they wear a uniform doesn't give them any moral high ground.  Therefore the public should keep a watch on the police.

I agree with this too.  Naturally, that job is going to attract many "power hungry" individuals.  Giving them power is necessary for their job, but they need to be monitored and regulated more.
The majority of serial killers of the power/control variety (there are 4 types of serial killers) expressed an interest in law enforcement and the military, and other positions of authority.  Police are not special people.  They should not be able to unilaterally use that kind of force.  It should take a collective decision.

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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2008, 06:27:58 PM »
I'm all in favor of brutalizing the Police all we want ;)

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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2008, 06:29:21 PM »
It should be eliminated. That doesn't mean that an officer can't or shouldn't "break down" an assailant who hits them first. It means that when a police officer pulls you over for speeding, he doesn't have the right to pull you through the window by  your hair and kick  you until you're unconcious.

Oh, come now! I think it's perfectly okay for the Police to deliver as many DWBs as they see fit! Pulling you through the window and delivering a Rodney King special is perfectly reasonable!

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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2008, 06:34:22 PM »
I'll tell you where police brutality is a good thing:

If you had a teenager gone off the rails...........truency at 14, petty theft at 15, drugs and gang activity at 16 and you just know at this rate the kid will be stabbed at 18 or shot at 20, wouldn't a good wallopping by the coppers be worth it if it scared them straight?

Broken bones, split lips and black eyes heal. Drog overdoses and lethal stabbings don't.

I'd say beat them at 14...

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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2008, 06:50:19 PM »
I think if police brutality is used, it should have to be public.  Hiding it should be illegal.  I am not sympathetic to any right to privacy involving brutality.  I also think that if possible, the police should collectively make the decision rather than just one guy doing it.

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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2008, 08:23:17 PM »
Do i want some redneck cop with a 90 IQ to have the right to beat me if he choses?  No.  Should a police officer be allowed to use force or fire his gun if he is being threatened?  Yes.

Some peoples answers really surprise me...  What if JTF had a protest.  Would u think it's ok to get beat then???  How about if it was a Black cop who had a grudge against Jews?  Be careful what u wish for.

I said in high crime areas where the cop is being threatened and the one being arrested is being extremely disobedient


I never disagreed with you, i was just stating my opinion on the subject.  I was surprised with the comments which reflected the sadistic "Yeaaaaaaaaa, beat the hell out of the criminals!" attitude but they don't surprise me.  After all, people cheered when they used to feed people to lions in the Roman days.

I think its justifiable for them to use force when threatened weather its a high crime area or not, but using unecessary force ie. batoning/tasing/pepper spraying when u could control the situation otherwise is wrong.  I fully understand there is people out there who don't understand anything except force though. 

Precisely, I agree with this.
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2008, 11:18:59 PM »
I'll tell you where police brutality is a good thing:

If you had a teenager gone off the rails...........truency at 14, petty theft at 15, drugs and gang activity at 16 and you just know at this rate the kid will be stabbed at 18 or shot at 20, wouldn't a good wallopping by the coppers be worth it if it scared them straight?

Broken bones, split lips and black eyes heal. Drog overdoses and lethal stabbings don't.

I'd say beat them at 14...
What a brutal comment to make. I remember a time in the not-so-distant-past  where just for sport, (or to make an example..) innocent people were flogged in public, killed in public. I don't see that behavior any different than when terrorists kidnap media figures, military members, or civilian aid workers and put them on display for all to see them become victims of public decapitations. All to prove a point.

Physically punish those who throw the first punch... don't get into a power [censored] contest to test your brute strength (absent of mind) by beating someone half- to death to prove a point. You'd hate it if you were one of those victims. (Rodney King asked for that beatdown...)

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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2008, 03:01:34 AM »

I remember a time in the not-so-distant-past  where just for sport, (or to make an example..) innocent people were flogged in public, killed in public. I don't see that behavior any different than when terrorists kidnap media figures, military members, or civilian aid workers and put them on display for all to see them become victims of public decapitations.
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If you can't tell the moral difference between criminals being publicly executed or flogged by authorities and innocent people being kidnapped by terrorists, you're as morally vaccuous as all the other blacks.

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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2008, 09:38:52 AM »

I remember a time in the not-so-distant-past  where just for sport, (or to make an example..) innocent people were flogged in public, killed in public. I don't see that behavior any different than when terrorists kidnap media figures, military members, or civilian aid workers and put them on display for all to see them become victims of public decapitations.

If you can't tell the moral difference between criminals being publicly executed or flogged by authorities and innocent people being kidnapped by terrorists, you're as morally vaccuous as all the other blacks.
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13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2008, 10:39:14 AM »

I remember a time in the not-so-distant-past  where just for sport, (or to make an example..) innocent people were flogged in public, killed in public. I don't see that behavior any different than when terrorists kidnap media figures, military members, or civilian aid workers and put them on display for all to see them become victims of public decapitations.

If you can't tell the moral difference between criminals being publicly executed or flogged by authorities and innocent people being kidnapped by terrorists, you're as morally vaccuous as all the other blacks.
[/quote]I think police officers who abuse their authority are just as bad as terrorists.

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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2008, 12:10:02 PM »
I think police brutality should be encouraged on blacks, muslims and anyone else who is an anti-semite.
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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2008, 10:52:40 PM »
I think police brutality should be encouraged on blacks, muslims and anyone else who is an anti-semite.
See? I didn't read it wrong. You didn't specify whether evil blacks should be beaten by police but that blacks, muslim and anyone who is an anti-semite. That's terrible.

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« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2008, 11:11:13 PM »
police are brutal on the wrong people, be brutal to the brutal, merciful to the merciful. Beat the s*** out of the gang banger, treat the person who got a speeding ticket with more mercy
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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2008, 11:41:36 PM »
police are brutal on the wrong people, be brutal to the brutal, merciful to the merciful. Beat the s*** out of the gang banger, treat the person who got a speeding ticket with more mercy
Beat the **** out of the gangbanger who resists arrest, grabs at your pistol, (shoot him at that point) ...to the gangbanger who doesn't resist arrest, treat him like anyone else you'd take in. Don't beat them down because you're angry with the life they chose...you can't save them...but you can get them off of the streets and prevent them from  hurting others.

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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2008, 12:23:34 AM »
There should be more of it in high crime gangster areas where people are afraid to call the cops because of the violent gang activity, these monsters also must be wiped out.

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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2008, 01:23:43 AM »
I think police brutality should be encouraged on blacks, muslims and anyone else who is an anti-semite.
See? I didn't read it wrong. You didn't specify whether evil blacks should be beaten by police but that blacks, muslim and anyone who is an anti-semite. That's terrible.

I think they should use police brutality against all black people. You simply cannot afford to take any chances. We can make an exception for Beyonce though.
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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2008, 04:17:32 AM »
I think police brutality should be encouraged on blacks, muslims and anyone else who is an anti-semite.
See? I didn't read it wrong. You didn't specify whether evil blacks should be beaten by police but that blacks, muslim and anyone who is an anti-semite. That's terrible.

I think they should use police brutality against all black people. You simply cannot afford to take any chances. We can make an exception for Beyonce though.
Great,  just  great.

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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2008, 01:21:05 PM »
I think police brutality should be encouraged on blacks, muslims and anyone else who is an anti-semite.
See? I didn't read it wrong. You didn't specify whether evil blacks should be beaten by police but that blacks, muslim and anyone who is an anti-semite. That's terrible.

I think they should use police brutality against all black people. You simply cannot afford to take any chances. We can make an exception for Beyonce though.
Great,  just  great.

Glad you agree home girl  8;)
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2008, 02:11:56 PM »
I think police brutality should be encouraged on blacks, muslims and anyone else who is an anti-semite.
See? I didn't read it wrong. You didn't specify whether evil blacks should be beaten by police but that blacks, muslim and anyone who is an anti-semite. That's terrible.

I think they should use police brutality against all black people. You simply cannot afford to take any chances. We can make an exception for Beyonce though.
Great,  just  great.

Glad you agree home girl  8;)
Don't misunderstand me, I dont' agree with you and I'm not your homegirl; especially after you just said that police should beat ME; i.e."ALL BLACK PEOPLE". If I'd said some derranged crap like that...where white people are the brutality victims...I'd have been banned.

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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2008, 02:15:18 PM »
Nobody said the coppers should beat you, Erica. You're a nice, middle class, white kind of black with a minivan............like Thelma when she married that well to do guy.

We're saying they should beat up the ghetto criminals.

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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2008, 02:27:34 PM »
Rodney King asked for that beatdown.

I'm amazed to hear you say that, Erica.

Good for you.