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Offline White Israelite

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Want to live to be 800 years old?
« on: February 11, 2008, 03:47:23 PM »
http://io9.com/345728/geneticists-discover-a-way-to-extend-lifespans-to-800-years

 Geneticists Discover a Way to Extend Lifespans to 800 Years

yeast.jpg There is now a way to extend the lifespan of organisms so that humans could conceivably live to be 800 years old. In an amazing development, scientists at the University of Southern California have announced that they've extended the lifespan of yeast bacteria tenfold -- and the recipe they used to do it might easily translate into humans. It involves tinkering with two genes, and cutting down your calorie intake. Tests have already started on people in Ecuador.

According to an announcement from PLoS Genetics:

    Researchers have created baker's yeast capable of living to 800 in yeast years without apparent side effects. The basic but important discovery, achieved through a combination of dietary and genetic changes, brings scientists closer to controlling the survival and health of the unit of all living systems: the cell. "We're setting the foundation for reprogramming healthy life," says study leader Valter Longo of the University of Southern California.

    Longo's group put baker's yeast on a calorie-restricted diet and knocked out two genes - RAS2 and SCH9 - that promote aging in yeast and cancer in humans.

    "We got a 10-fold life span extension that is, I think, the longest one that has ever been achieved in any organism," Longo says. Normal yeast organisms live about a week.

    "I would say 10-fold is pretty significant," says Anna McCormick, chief of the genetics and cell biology branch at the National Institute on Aging (NIA) and Longo's program officer. The NIA funds such research in the hope of extending healthy life span in humans through the development of drugs that mimic the life-prolonging techniques used by Longo and others, McCormick adds.

    Baker's yeast is one of the most studied and best understood organisms at the molecular and genetic level. Remarkably, in light of its simplicity, yeast has led to the discovery of some of the most important genes and pathways regulating aging and disease in mice and other mammals.

    Longo's group next plans to further investigate life span extension in mice. The group is already studying a human population in Ecuador with mutations analogous to those described in yeast.

    "People with two copies of the mutations have very small stature and other defects," Longo says. "We are now identifying the relatives with only one copy of the mutation, who are apparently normal. We hope that they will show a reduced incidence of diseases and an extended life span."

    Longo cautions that, as in the Ecuador case, longevity mutations tend to come with severe growth deficits and other health problems. Finding drugs to extend the human life span without side effects will not be easy.

I've always been a skeptic when it comes to life-extending research, but this has me rethinking my position.

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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2008, 03:56:53 PM »
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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2008, 04:02:26 PM »
Moshiach will be here long before 800 years is up... :)

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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 04:34:01 PM »
You mean that now I'm going to have to make Estimated Quarterly Payments to the IRS for 750 more years?   >:(   :(


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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 01:52:46 AM »
What   :o , 800 years really that would make you a 60x great-grandfather or something if you had children ;D

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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2008, 02:37:14 AM »
Nooo thank you, I am not planning on living pasted 65  ::)

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2008, 02:40:33 PM »
Nooo thank you, I am not planning on living pasted 65  ::)

I hope that is a joke.

Thank you Cohen for this article, i brought it up in class today and we spent the whole lesson discussing genetic engineering instead of just reading like we always do. O0

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2008, 05:49:47 PM »
Nooo thank you, I am not planning on living pasted 65  ::)

I hope that is a joke.

Thank you Cohen for this article, i brought it up in class today and we spent the whole lesson discussing genetic engineering instead of just reading like we always do. O0

Nope 65 is it, I prefer not to live longer than that.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2008, 05:53:39 PM »
Nooo thank you, I am not planning on living pasted 65  ::)

I hope that is a joke.

Thank you Cohen for this article, i brought it up in class today and we spent the whole lesson discussing genetic engineering instead of just reading like we always do. O0

Nope 65 is it, I prefer not to live longer than that.
Why? ???

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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2008, 05:58:33 PM »
Because my family don't normally live past 65

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2008, 06:03:51 PM »
Because my family don't normally live past 65

That doesn't determine when you're going to die and why would you prefer to live a shorter life?

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2008, 06:08:08 PM »
A 100 plus or minus a few years would be just fine. ;) I think 800 years would just be to much. The way the world is changing for the worse by the day  it would become unbearable to live through all that change. :-\
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2008, 06:10:44 PM »
A 100 plus or minus a few years would be just fine. ;) I think 800 years would just be to much. The way the world is changing for the worse by the day  it would become unbearable to live through all that change. :-\

Not to mention the increase in population that this would amount to, if people could have enough time to have 20 or more children, there wouldn't be enough space left on earth. ;D

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2008, 06:11:07 PM »
Because my family don't normally live past 65

That doesn't determine when you're going to die and why would you prefer to live a shorter life?

Haha yes it does Sarah

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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2008, 06:21:09 PM »
A 100 plus or minus a few years would be just fine. ;) I think 800 years would just be to much. The way the world is changing for the worse by the day  it would become unbearable to live through all that change. :-\

Not to mention the increase in population that this would amount to, if people could have enough time to have 20 or more children, there wouldn't be enough space left on earth. ;D
Yes thats very true. They are starting to come to the conclusion that peoples lifespans are getting to long already. Years ago people would retire at 62 and be dead before 70. Today they go on for years collecting old age retirement and health benefit's. The government is already starting to complain that its costing them to much money. They would start sending hit men out after anyone older than 150 to cut down expenses. ;)
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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2008, 08:36:48 PM »
I'm conflicted on this.  Sometimes I would like to live a long life and sometimes I look forward to going to a better place. O0

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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2008, 08:47:22 PM »
800 years  :o
I would like to live long enough to see my child get married and have children.

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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2008, 08:51:12 PM »
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2008, 10:20:43 PM »
A 100 plus or minus a few years would be just fine. ;) I think 800 years would just be to much. The way the world is changing for the worse by the day  it would become unbearable to live through all that change. :-\

Not only that but all your friends, family and relatives on you would be dying, you'd be going to perhaps your 30x-great-grandson's funeral if you had kids, and everyone would be dying on you. Also, more iSSlamic terrorism etc.

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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2008, 10:46:19 PM »
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

You think there will be movies then?

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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2008, 10:25:54 AM »
Imagine the prices in 800 years.  Movie ticket?  That'll be a grand.  Enjoy the show. :::D

You think there will be movies then?

However advanced they may be or in whatever form of entertainment, they'd have to be at least 10hours long, each, to take up time. :)

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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2008, 10:38:52 AM »
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

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Re: Want to live to be 800 years old?
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2008, 10:44:15 AM »
800 would be 700 too much for me. ;D

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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2008, 02:49:55 AM »
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D

Skippy, please do not think of such things. If you think like that, you will be surprised how easilly your brain would just tell your body to die! If you THINK like that, then it will happen. But if you think and aim for 90, you WILL achieve it with exception to outside forces. Do not underestimate yourself.

Skippy, have you considered seeing a Rabbi or Pastor about it? It may be a curse set on your bloodline, but with the Power of Almighty G-D, it's VERY easy to brake that chain!

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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2008, 02:58:04 AM »
The great thing about living to 800 is you would make HUGE $$$$$ in compound interest. :D

i love your thinking Newman!!! :D


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