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newman:
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--- Quote from: newman on February 14, 2008, 02:35:15 AM ---Lubab,
I read about some of the unsavory things required of female (Jewish) Mossad agents.
Is a Jewess breaking a mitzvah if she sleeps with a man to get information vital to save Jewish lives or to compromise an enemy of the Jewish State?
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Need more info. Is this a married woman? Is this a Jewish man? Is this a married Jewish man? Is this a gentile man?
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Typically a single Jewish female agent and a non-Jewish man sometimes married/sometimes not. ie: Female Mossad agent sleeping with EU beurocrat for vital information or somebody connected with a terror network to get info or ket close enough to kill etc.
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And this would save a Jewish life? I would need to double check with a senior Rabbinic authority, but my instinct tells me this would be praiseworthy.
Look what Ester from the Purim story did.
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It may not save a Jewish life 'directly' but vital information gained this way can lead to the location and killing of a terrorist or provide early warning of an attack on Israel. This sin of the flesh could 'indirectly' save dozens or even thousands of Jewish lives.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: newman on February 14, 2008, 11:40:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 14, 2008, 11:31:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on February 14, 2008, 11:23:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 14, 2008, 11:19:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on February 14, 2008, 02:35:15 AM ---Lubab,
I read about some of the unsavory things required of female (Jewish) Mossad agents.
Is a Jewess breaking a mitzvah if she sleeps with a man to get information vital to save Jewish lives or to compromise an enemy of the Jewish State?
--- End quote ---
Need more info. Is this a married woman? Is this a Jewish man? Is this a married Jewish man? Is this a gentile man?
--- End quote ---
Typically a single Jewish female agent and a non-Jewish man sometimes married/sometimes not. ie: Female Mossad agent sleeping with EU beurocrat for vital information or somebody connected with a terror network to get info or ket close enough to kill etc.
--- End quote ---
And this would save a Jewish life? I would need to double check with a senior Rabbinic authority, but my instinct tells me this would be praiseworthy.
Look what Ester from the Purim story did.
--- End quote ---
It may not save a Jewish life 'directly' but vital information gained this way can lead to the location and killing of a terrorist or provide early warning of an attack on Israel. This sin of the flesh could 'indirectly' save dozens or even thousands of Jewish lives.
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Yeah well that to me sounds a lot like what Queen Ester did. There was no gaurantee it would work. But she did it because we err on the side of saving lives in these cases (unless it's one of the big 3...but sex with a gentile is not one of thosesins for which we must sooner die than transgress).
newman:
--- Quote from: lubab on February 14, 2008, 01:33:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: newman on February 14, 2008, 11:40:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 14, 2008, 11:31:39 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on February 14, 2008, 11:23:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: lubab on February 14, 2008, 11:19:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: newman on February 14, 2008, 02:35:15 AM ---Lubab,
I read about some of the unsavory things required of female (Jewish) Mossad agents.
Is a Jewess breaking a mitzvah if she sleeps with a man to get information vital to save Jewish lives or to compromise an enemy of the Jewish State?
--- End quote ---
Need more info. Is this a married woman? Is this a Jewish man? Is this a married Jewish man? Is this a gentile man?
--- End quote ---
Typically a single Jewish female agent and a non-Jewish man sometimes married/sometimes not. ie: Female Mossad agent sleeping with EU beurocrat for vital information or somebody connected with a terror network to get info or ket close enough to kill etc.
--- End quote ---
And this would save a Jewish life? I would need to double check with a senior Rabbinic authority, but my instinct tells me this would be praiseworthy.
Look what Ester from the Purim story did.
--- End quote ---
It may not save a Jewish life 'directly' but vital information gained this way can lead to the location and killing of a terrorist or provide early warning of an attack on Israel. This sin of the flesh could 'indirectly' save dozens or even thousands of Jewish lives.
--- End quote ---
Yeah well that to me sounds a lot like what Queen Ester did. There was no gaurantee it would work. But she did it because we err on the side of saving lives in these cases (unless it's one of the big 3...but sex with a gentile is not one of thosesins for which we must sooner die than transgress).
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A Jewess friend of mine (she's from a self-hating reform background) has been trying to get me to sleep with her under the guise of ahavot Yisroel Love of Jewery). She's divorced and unable to have anymore children. Am I in trouble if I agree?
Scriabin:
--- Quote from: lubab on February 14, 2008, 11:17:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: Scriabin on February 13, 2008, 11:33:17 PM ---Lubab,
How do you control your anger? This is something that I could work on.
Shalom
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Great question. I also have this problem some times. The Kabbalists were EXTREMELY against any trace of the negative kind of anger.
Anger is basically saying: I know better than G-d.
It's basically saying the way I think things should go is better than the way G-d thinks things should go.
So one of the things that helps is to look for Divine Providence in everything that happens. Look for the lessons to be learned from each situation. When you get angry, realize that this must mean you just don't yet understand the lesson G-d is trying to teach me here. Seize that opportunity and try to raise yourself to a higher more healthy perspective of the situation and go from there.
Sometimes, however, anger is justified, but it needs to be a righteous anger. Anger directed towards making this world a better place. And that means CONTROLLED anger. "Anger" really isn't even a good word for this kind of thing.
It's more like a strong drive to make things better and overcome obstacles to do so.
Sometimes, when you get good at this controlled anger business, you can show anger on the outside to serve your purpose, and on the inside not be angry at all. This is the way a parent or teacher is supposed to discipline. Really they are not angry, they are just wearing that mask to serve their purpose.
And that really is the cure to anger. Always stay focused on your purpoase in this world, in this day, in this situation and you'll always find a way to use your emotions in the right proportion to meet that goal.
Thanks for the great question. Kol Hakavod (all the honor) for being the first question.
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Thanks for your wonderful answer, Lubab. Some food for thought.
Lisa:
Newman are you joking?
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