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Offline The Shadow

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Do you think a JDL in Pre Nazi Germany  could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?

If  Rabbi Kahane, Chaim, Robert Manning, Jay Cohen,  and some other hand picked street tough Jewish guys  were around during that time  I think they would have brutally killed Adolf Hitler.   Could you imagine...  JDL patiently waiting for him to return home after giving one of his Jew Hating speeches.   You know Chaim would have had Jay Cohen, the power lifter, actually bending Little Adolf's limbs.  I don't think you would recognize  "Little Adolf" after the attack, it would be that viscious.  I dont think his reproductive organs would be attached.

An attack like that could have changed history, for the Jewish people.

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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2008, 12:24:46 AM »
I'm wondering why someone didn't kill him. Surely not everyone was a wimp. He must have been protected from such intervention somehow?

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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2008, 12:29:28 AM »
The JDL under Kahane would have definitely wiped him out had they been around back then. 
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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2008, 01:54:30 AM »
I'm sure there were many times Hitler could have been taken out, there were probably specific reasons why he wasn't. Hitler wasn't the only one behind the holocaust after all, just the most popular figure head.

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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2008, 02:30:45 AM »
The JDL arose because of the memory of what happened to the Jews of Europe.

A JDL could have fixed hitler for sure, but the attitude of Jews as that time was one of assimilation and denial. A JDL would not have arisen until too late (like the Warsaw ghetto uprising).

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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2008, 02:59:39 AM »
Not only a JDL under Rabbi Kahane, but after that in the Dov Fisch days, and in the Jolovitz- Chaim period, wouldve Hitler been killed.

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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2008, 03:10:33 AM »
The JDL arose because of the memory of what happened to the Jews of Europe.

A JDL could have fixed hitler for sure, but the attitude of Jews as that time was one of assimilation and denial. A JDL would not have arisen until too late (like the Warsaw ghetto uprising).

Good point, newman.  The issue of whether JDL, if it existed at that time, would have killed Hitler is moot when the question of whether a group such as JDL could have existed at all is considered. 

Theoretically, if there was a similar group (which would have had to have been much more underground) they absolutely would have been able to take out Hitler in one way or another. 
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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2008, 03:18:10 AM »
The JDL arose because of the memory of what happened to the Jews of Europe.

A JDL could have fixed hitler for sure, but the attitude of Jews as that time was one of assimilation and denial. A JDL would not have arisen until too late (like the Warsaw ghetto uprising).

Good point, newman.  The issue of whether JDL, if it existed at that time, would have killed Hitler is moot when the question of whether a group such as JDL could have existed at all is considered. 

Theoretically, if there was a similar group (which would have had to have been much more underground) they absolutely would have been able to take out Hitler in one way or another. 

I might add (sadly) that the attitude of many diaspora Jews is the same now as it was then:
"Stop scare-mongering and making trouble, you people. Nothing's gonna happen to us" and " Israel Shmisrael. (insert galut nation) is our homeland and the (reform) Synagogue is our temple"

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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2008, 03:33:10 AM »
the JDL? yes

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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2008, 04:40:20 AM »
I think the SA (hitler's bodygards) were able to defend hitler against attacks.
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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2008, 09:17:43 AM »
German Generals tried before the war and they failed they tried during the war and they failed they were able to get close and failed.
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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2008, 10:52:31 AM »
I think a JDL could have taken Hitler out before he came into power.  In the very early stages as he was builiding his popularity, it would obviously be easier to reach him.  This was a fundamental principal of JDL.  To reach out and touch these monsters before the monsters became too big to stop. 

If you want to hear first hand, about how Kahane felt about reaching monsters before they became too big, then go on You Tube and hear the interview right in the streets of Skokie as Kahane explains to the reporters why he and JDL are there to attack the Klan before they become too big to stop.  Kahane specifically mnentions the Klan leader by name and that he needs to be stopped. 

So you can bet your sweet .........  that a JDL would have taken out Hitler before he got too big to stop.

I will try to find this on You tube and post it

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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2008, 01:26:13 PM »
Of course not.
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Re: Do you think a JDL in pre Nazi Germany could have rubbed out Adolf Hitler?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2008, 01:32:56 PM »
The American Jewish Mob tried to kill Hitler and his inner circle, sadly they failed
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