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Would you convert to islam?

Hell no, I would rather die.
8 (44.4%)
yes it's better to live.
0 (0%)
I don't know.
2 (11.1%)
Maybe.
0 (0%)
I'll pretend to convert.
5 (27.8%)
No.
3 (16.7%)

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Offline Yonathan Ben Yakov

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converting to islam?
« on: April 07, 2008, 12:07:46 AM »
i hope no one takes this personal. its just a question, if a muslim took you hostage and said "will kill you if you don't convert" would you
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Offline Еврей

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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2008, 12:10:26 AM »
Can we pretend to convert,
Then just go back to being whatever we want?
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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2008, 12:13:57 AM »
Quote from: Yohonathan Ben Yakov on April 07, 2008, 12:12:14 AM
Quote from: SR Yehudi on April 07, 2008, 12:10:26 AM
Can we pretend to convert,
Then just go back to being whatever we want?

yeah sure O0

Sounds good to me!
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Offline Dan

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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2008, 01:08:11 AM »
Hell No!
  I'll fight till the end... are we giving up already?!
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Offline Еврей

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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 01:13:27 AM »
No, we are absolutely not giving up!
However, hypothetically if you were being held hostage what would you do?
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"My family follows Judaism. We've made numerous family visits to Israel."
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"We are a small nation, but strong."
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"First of all, Arafat is wrong. Jerusalem is Israel's capital, will never be divided, and will remain the capital of the State of Israel, the capital of the Jewish people, for ever and ever. "
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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2008, 01:35:32 AM »
Quote from: SR Yehudi on April 07, 2008, 01:13:27 AM
No, we are absolutely not giving up!
However, hypothetically if you were being held hostage what would you do?

I'd rather die righteously
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Offline Dan

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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2008, 01:48:02 AM »
Quote from: SR Yehudi on April 07, 2008, 01:13:27 AM
No, we are absolutely not giving up!
However, hypothetically if you were being held hostage what would you do?
Likewise I'd probably try to fight my way out... G-d knows!
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Offline White Israelite

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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2008, 02:05:29 AM »
No wouldn't convert under any circumstances, even if i'm stuck with a blade to my throat, I will fight back even if it requires me biting the nose off the damn muslim and involves my death.
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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2008, 02:39:40 AM »
Quote from: ???? ??? on April 07, 2008, 02:05:29 AM
No wouldn't convert under any circumstances, even if i'm stuck with a blade to my throat, I will fight back even if it requires me biting the nose off the damn muslim and involves my death.

Well said O0
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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 06:18:27 AM »
Muslam is totally false, it can exist only in an anti-world. So no human being can be converted in to Muslam, whether by force or by agreement or by pretension or by default.

With Regards... :)     
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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2008, 06:25:30 AM »
Look at all the people  moslems who live in moslem countries who convert to Christianity ,they could keep it quiet but no they let moslems know under sure threat of death. Can we people who live in free countries be cowards
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Offline Dr. Dan

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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 09:18:25 AM »
I would rather live and therefore pretend convert..if it meant my life if i got caught, then i would take it.  The longer I live, the longer I can practice the same takkiya as a fake Muslim to other Muslims to turn against their own with Gd's help.
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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 09:37:02 AM »
Is this true that Judaism tells you to die before comitting idolatry? For me isslam is idolatry and as comitted Christian I won't reject HIM as my Mesiash before the people becouse in this case he'll reject me before HIS FATHER. And besides muslims are brainwashed and spiritualy influenced you won't have guarantee that you will esacape from it with ease and without the (psichic) scrathes. If you knew western convert to islam they act like mesmerised or worse. converting to moon god religion is not like choosing the the different kind of church or yeshiva. 
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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2008, 09:52:24 AM »
Quote from: Ultra Requete on April 07, 2008, 09:37:02 AM
Is this true that Judaism tells you to die before comitting idolatry? For me isslam is idolatry and as comitted Christian I won't reject HIM as my Mesiash before the people becouse in this case he'll reject me before HIS FATHER. And besides muslims are brainwashed and spiritualy influenced you won't have guarantee that you will esacape from it with ease and without the (psichic) scrathes. If you knew western convert to islam they act like mesmerised or worse. converting to moon G-d religion is not like choosing the the different kind of church or yeshiva. 
This is correct
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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2008, 09:53:39 AM »
Judaism tells you to die before comitting idolatry.
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Re: converting to islam?
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2008, 10:20:12 AM »
Hell no, I would rather die.End of discussion for me 8)
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