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Offline Kacen

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Lately I am being harassed by moderators and members of the forum.

People are accusing me of being some sort of N.W.O. agent.

Okay, let me clarify some things: the sign on the back of the dollar bill is not an ILLUMINATI symbol, it's an authentic and original symbol of the United States that's been hijacked by conspiracy theorists as a sign of the New World Order. It does have some masonic influence, but that brings up a different point: FREEMASONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER.

Seriously, I thought the people here were smarter than to fall for conspiracy theories. The same people who make up these conspiracy theories about the illuminati are the same people who say Zionists are evil and vote for Ron Paul while hiding in their basements with tinfoil hats on their heads.

Might I remind you that anti-freemasonry and anti-semitism go hand-in-hand.

Ah yes, and also, many of the founding fathers of the United States were freemasons. George Washington and Ben Franklin were, and Thomas Jefferson for had close links to them. Freemasons are part of the reason we have freedom of religion (no theocracy), freedom of speech, and democracy in the United States.

Oh, and one last thing; I am related to John Adams on my mother's side.

http://www.greatseal.com Please direct yourself here to clear up all your tinfoil hat nonsense.

If it continues I may leave, as I am getting quite offended.

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Seriously, I thought the people here were smarter than to fall for conspiracy theories.

I haven't met one person that was smart enough to allways tell conspiracy theories from real conspiracies anywhere. It is a shame when people push conspiracy theories aggressively instead of trying to find out whether they are right or wrong.

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I personally don't care about Freemasons, as long they don't try to proselytize me to their basically Deist* worldview.

I am for full faith of freedom for all groups in my country, except evil ones, who wants to establish a terror-regime like Muslimes, Nazis, Scientology, Socialists etc.

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

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I haven't read the post about N.W.O and so on, because I'm not interested in this.
I just replied from a theoretical point of view.
I know that some people here fight hard for weird opinions and use insulting language.

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Kacen, this is a religious forum, and we have rules that must be followed.  If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to post here.  So don't go lecturing us. 

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I personally don't care about Freemasons, as long they don't try to proselytize me to their basically Deist* worldview.

I am for full faith of freedom for all groups in my country, except evil ones, who wants to establish a terror-regime like Muslimes, Nazis, Scientology, Socialists etc.

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism

You do not have to be a deist to be a freemason, but it is a commonly held view among them. You can be a Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Hindu, Pagan, whatever and be a freemason. They never proselytize.

The only people who can't be freemasons are Atheists, and until relatively recently, women...but now they are gradually being allowed in, and always there were seperate groups for women in freemasonry.

Freemasons promote religious tolerance, however at this point it is apparent to me Islam can never be tolerant of other faiths in the long run so it is imperative we take a stand against it.

Kacen, this is a religious forum, and we have rules that must be followed.  If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to post here.  So don't go lecturing us. 

Nice to give me a simple, generalized response without elaborating on my actual post.

Well see IslamIsCancer begged me to join, saying we'd all be one big happy family in our united hatred of Islam. I guess he was wrong in that, I don't think it's his fault though.

I hate Islam from a secular standpoint, as in it is a threat to my own country, and as Israel is in the frontlines in fighting those people I support them wholeheartidly.

And now that I take a look at some of forums on the main board as I scroll down "America's Morality Crisis", the more I see that the Christians here are the bigots who are hating muzzies by being just like the muzzies; being bigoted against homosexuals, women's rights, and other things...just like the muzzies. Sound familiar? What do they do in countries like Saudi Arabia to those latter groups? Kill them.

It's one of the reasons I like Israel it is the only country in the middle east that has religious freedom and how well they treat their women in the sense of allowing them into the army I greatly admire.

I am 100% right wing on economics and such, do not get me wrong, I hate communists with a vicious passion.

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Kahanism seeks a religious government in Israel.

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Yeah, seriously, I should have thought twice before joining here.

Fighting muzzies by being just like them.

Let's fight the evil cancer that is Islam and have the same time of theocratic regime as them where unbelievers are...you know it aint worth it, I can't get along with many of the people here. I'm leaving before this becomes a huge embarassing calamity.

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Lately I am being harassed by moderators and members of the forum.

People are accusing me of being some sort of N.W.O. agent.

Okay, let me clarify some things: the sign on the back of the dollar bill is not an ILLUMINATI symbol, it's an authentic and original symbol of the United States that's been hijacked by conspiracy theorists as a sign of the New World Order. It does have some masonic influence, but that brings up a different point: FREEMASONS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER.

Seriously, I thought the people here were smarter than to fall for conspiracy theories. The same people who make up these conspiracy theories about the illuminati are the same people who say Zionists are evil and vote for Ron Paul while hiding in their basements with tinfoil hats on their heads.

Might I remind you that anti-freemasonry and anti-semitism go hand-in-hand.

Ah yes, and also, many of the founding fathers of the United States were freemasons. George Washington and Ben Franklin were, and Thomas Jefferson for had close links to them. Freemasons are part of the reason we have freedom of religion (no theocracy), freedom of speech, and democracy in the United States.

Oh, and one last thing; I am related to John Adams on my mother's side.

http://www.greatseal.com Please direct yourself here to clear up all your tinfoil hat nonsense.

If it continues I may leave, as I am getting quite offended.

  I get offended on a daily basis. I didnt like those UGLY flags. A few others had some things that were on the forum, and were asked to replace them, I dont see any partiality here. I posted on a subject, and it was disturbing to some people, and considering I was new, I removed it, I joined a forum, that was already established before I came along, and am sensitive to their rules, I removed my posts without question, b/c the people here are WONDERFUL, and I didnt want to hurt them in ANY way, or make them feel uncomfortable with me, someone they didn't know.
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It's one of the reasons I like Israel it is the only country in the middle east that has religious freedom and how well they treat their women in the sense of allowing them into the army I greatly admire.

Letting Women into the Military is a suicidal blunder.  Women have no business playing 'soldier boy'.

Has Warfare become so easy that even Women can do it?

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Yeah, seriously, I should have thought twice before joining here.

Fighting muzzies by being just like them.

Let's fight the evil cancer that is Islam and have the same time of theocratic regime as them where unbelievers are...you know it aint worth it, I can't get along with many of the people here. I'm leaving before this becomes a huge embarassing calamity.

I hope regardless that you continue to fight Islam in your own way even if you leave this board.

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Yeah, seriously, I should have thought twice before joining here.

Fighting muzzies by being just like them.

Let's fight the evil cancer that is Islam and have the same time of theocratic regime as them where unbelievers are...you know it aint worth it, I can't get along with many of the people here. I'm leaving before this becomes a huge embarassing calamity.

This kid is naive. 

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Letting Women into the Military is a suicidal blunder.  Women have no business playing 'soldier boy'.

Has Warfare become so easy that even Women can do it?

Look at Israel's own history to have that disproved. They fought well in some of Israel's early wars.

Another example would be the success of female snipers in the Soviet Union in World War II.

And yes, I know, the Soviets are a bad example, but really it doesn't matter if they were Soviet the women still fought well.

I hope regardless that you continue to fight Islam in your own way even if you leave this board.

Oh, don't worry, I will remain viciously anti-Islamic, I just need to be weary of who I ally with and for what reasons certain people are anti-Islamic.

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Oh, don't worry, I will remain viciously anti-Islamic, I just need to be weary of who I ally with and for what reasons certain people are anti-Islamic.

One day I hope that Islam will be a bad historical memory!

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Look at Israel's own history to have that disproved. They fought well in some of Israel's early wars.

Another example would be the success of female snipers in the Soviet Union in World War II.

And yes, I know, the Soviets are a bad example, but really it doesn't matter if they were Soviet the women still fought well.

Again, modern weaponry and other technology has made warfare so easy that even Women can attempt being 'soldiers'.  

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Again, modern weaponry and other technology has made warfare so easy that even Women can attempt being 'soldiers'.  

Well the only real hinderence women tend to have is they are on average weaker than a man.

But like you just said, nowadays with guns and such it doesn't factor much; back in the day when we were swinging big heavy swords and axes around was a different story but even then there were exceptions.

So, uh, what is your point?

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Again, modern weaponry and other technology has made warfare so easy that even Women can attempt being 'soldiers'.  

Well the only real hinderence women tend to have is they are on average weaker than a man.

But like you just said, nowadays with guns and such it doesn't factor much; back in the day when we were swinging big heavy swords and axes around was a different story but even then there were exceptions.

So, uh, what is your point?

Feminism is the downfall of Western society.  Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint.  That's my point.

Women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker and prone to irrational emotional outbursts.  There is nothing Warriorlike about the Female psyche. 

The whole idea of Women soldiers is silly at best and suicidal at worst.  Israel is tiny to begin with.  Is it really a good idea to send future Mothers out to get blown to bits? 

Israel (or any country) cannot last under such suicidal policies as you propose.

Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen.  Know what I mean?

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There were women who served in combat bravely during the War between the States on both sides. This was a very bloody, brutal war, the worst in American history. Women can do it, but there are some problems that need to be addressed.

1. If men and women are not segregated, then immorality will happen. No question about it. Men and women must be kept in separate units when at all possible.

2. A woman can be pregnant and not know it for a while, so if she has sex at any time during her service with any man, then she gets injured, or exposed to chemical weapons a baby could die or come out very injured or deformed. There's also no room in a combat situation to deal with pregnant women's needs. If you need to march then there's no time for morning sickness, heavy mood swings, birthing etc. The heavy physical work involved would probably also cause a miscarriage. I think women in the armed services should have to be on some kind of birth control or sign some kind of contract of honor to prevent this sort of thing from happening. That would solve that problem, but it is something that needs to be addressed.

3. Women are physically weaker, on average, than men. The work they do has to reflect that. Modern technology is mostly overcoming this however.

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Well in addition I shall add that I will still be more biased towards Kahanists and religious Jews because even if they have similar views on social issues traditionally as Muslims do, they don't want to spread it around and convert others.

Jews don't shove their religion down people's throats like Muslims and some Christians no matter how religious they are, which is one of the reasons I've always respected them.

And the Kahanists don't want to convert others or to spread their religion around the world they just want Israel so I may still support them...as long as their theocracy doesn't become as horrific as the ones in Isalmic countries.

Feminism is the downfall of Western society.  Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint.  That's my point.

I don't like hypocritical feminists who try to make themselveso out as superior to men but I believe in gender equality.

Women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker and prone to irrational emotional outbursts.  There is nothing Warriorlike about the Female psyche.

I cited examples that contradict that. There were very good female snipers and many soldiers too in the Soviet Union. Go look it up. And once again I am not condoning the Soviet Union or anything but it's still a good military example. In addition Israel's own history.

The whole idea of Women soldiers is silly at best and suicidal at worst.  Israel is tiny to begin with.  Is it really a good idea to send future Mothers out to get blown to bits?

Are there any statistics from Israel that prove their current policy on women in the army causing massive problems? And if you try to link that to the fact of how the Arab population is increasing I shall post this pre-emptive response: The reason the Arabs multiply so fast is because of Islamic allow allowing men to have multiple wifes, so they multiply like cancerous rabbits if you know what I mean.

Israel (or any country) cannot last under such suicidal policies as you propose.

Once again, statistical proof please.

Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen.  Know what I mean?

Once again, proof of problems that have happened because of that, and as far as I know the men's and women's barracks' are segregated.

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Feminism is the downfall of Western society.  Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint.  That's my point.
I don't like hypocritical feminists who try to make themselveso out as superior to men but I believe in gender equality.

'Gender equality'?  Another word for 'Feminism'.
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Well in addition I shall add that I will still be more biased towards Kahanists and religious Jews because even if they have similar views on social issues traditionally as Muslims do, they don't want to spread it around and convert others.

Jews don't shove their religion down people's throats like Muslims and some Christians no matter how religious they are, which is one of the reasons I've always respected them.

And the Kahanists don't want to convert others or to spread their religion around the world they just want Israel so I may still support them...as long as their theocracy doesn't become as horrific as the ones in Isalmic countries.

Feminism is the downfall of Western society.  Your support of Women on the battlefield is a Feminist viewpoint.  That's my point.

I don't like hypocritical feminists who try to make themselveso out as superior to men but I believe in gender equality.

Women are not only physically weaker, they are mentally weaker and prone to irrational emotional outbursts.  There is nothing Warriorlike about the Female psyche.

I cited examples that contradict that. There were very good female snipers and many soldiers too in the Soviet Union. Go look it up. And once again I am not condoning the Soviet Union or anything but it's still a good military example. In addition Israel's own history.

The whole idea of Women soldiers is silly at best and suicidal at worst.  Israel is tiny to begin with.  Is it really a good idea to send future Mothers out to get blown to bits?

Are there any statistics from Israel that prove their current policy on women in the army causing massive problems? And if you try to link that to the fact of how the Arab population is increasing I shall post this pre-emptive response: The reason the Arabs multiply so fast is because of Islamic allow allowing men to have multiple wifes, so they multiply like cancerous rabbits if you know what I mean.

Israel (or any country) cannot last under such suicidal policies as you propose.

Once again, statistical proof please.

Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen.  Know what I mean?

Once again, proof of problems that have happened because of that, and as far as I know the men's and women's barracks' are segregated.

Women in the Soviet Union were great snipers because Women in General have more Patience then Men so they can wait to take the shot

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Are there any statistics from Israel that prove their current policy on women in the army causing massive problems? And if you try to link that to the fact of how the Arab population is increasing I shall post this pre-emptive response: The reason the Arabs multiply so fast is because of Islamic allow allowing men to have multiple wifes, so they multiply like cancerous rabbits if you know what I mean.

That's not my quote.  Why am I responsible for other people's words?

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Israel (or any country) cannot last under such suicidal policies as you propose.
Once again, statistical proof please.

So you're saying it is OK if only some Women get blown to bits?

Why do I have to provide 'statistical proof'?  Where is your 'statistical proof' that Women 'soldiers' are just as good as their Male counterparts?

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Furthermore, when you put boys and girls together, things happen.  Know what I mean?

Once again, proof of problems that have happened because of that, and as far as I know the men's and women's barracks' are segregated.
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I don't think you need a proof for this. Is it so hard too imagine young women wanting to get away at one point during their mission, that they want to get a child just to be pulled away from the front?