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The Beauties of Evil
« on: August 20, 2008, 05:36:04 PM »
Its a common misconception I hear here sometimes that Evil people are also physically ugly. But In fact they come in all shapes and sizes.

Leni Riefenstahl.


Quin Rania of Jordan. Supposedly a Palestinian, could you believe it?

Asma Assad. I could never guess this is an Arab women just from her appearance.


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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2008, 05:51:28 PM »
This is true.  Both moral and evil people can be attractive or repulsive physically.  Nothing is written on the face.

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2008, 06:03:30 PM »
Don't forget Anna Baltzer, the Marxist campus speaker of Jewish descent who urges Israeli Arabs to do more suicide bombings!


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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2008, 06:07:41 PM »
I remember her measure of beauty was debated here but I have to agree with you, unfortunately.

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2008, 06:30:38 PM »
This is true.  Both moral and evil people can be attractive or repulsive physically.  Nothing is written on the face.

 Not true. All of these faces except Quin is obvious, but even she doesn't have a good face if you look close at it. + What exactly did she do or is doing that makes her evil? (even with that her face is not that great, she doesn't have that glow that good people have.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2008, 06:37:39 PM »
Look at this lady- Nadia Matar (Just a random Jewish lady I picked out)
http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/imageDetails?invocationType=imageDetails&query=nadia+matar&img=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jtf.org%2Fisrael%2Fiii.06272006.israel.plo.nadia.matar.kahane.award.jpg&site=&host=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jtf.org%2Fisrael%2Fisrael.self.hating.jews.want.to.destroy.israel.htm&width=96&height=96&thumbUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages-partners-tbn.google.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AFmwHOU3d-COlqM%3Awww.jtf.org%2Fisrael%2Fiii.06272006.israel.plo.nadia.matar.kahane.award.jpg&b=image%3FinvocationType%3Dtopsearchbox.image%26imgsz%3D%26query%3Dnadia%2Bmatar -

 From the JTF website. She might not be young, and im not saying that anyone should look at the pics with lust G-d forbid, but if you look at it carefully you will see the difference in the shine between the obove pics and someone who is rightious like this lady.

 Also look at the face of a Rabbi http://torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yigal_Haimoff/index.html
 And the face of a terrorist murderer - http://vwt.d2g.com:8081/samir%20kuntar.jpg
  (pick it out yourself randomly if you dont want to specificly use the picks I put).
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2008, 06:37:49 PM »
Evil people can sometimes seem to have a glow around them, a charisma, and what seems like (but is not) a divine purpose.

I think this is a demonic sort of light and can mislead many people.

Even though we're smarter than that and don't fall for it (thank God), many Obama supporters seem to see Obama as a messiah-like figure. They see a sort of glow around him when he speaks and are completely enthralled. A similar "glow" enveloped other evil leaders through history where the charismatic leader enthralled people and inspired them to evil, making them believe they were righteous.

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2008, 06:40:17 PM »
This is true.  Both moral and evil people can be attractive or repulsive physically.  Nothing is written on the face.

 Not true. All of these faces except Quin is obvious, but even she doesn't have a good face if you look close at it. + What exactly did she do or is doing that makes her evil? (even with that her face is not that great, she doesn't have that glow that good people have.
But what if you'd just  show the pictures with no context or name, would you still say they aren't that beautiful or even that they must be evil ?

Queen Rania is wife of the serpent King Abdullah of Jordan and so obviously she stands on the side of evil.

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 06:44:53 PM »
This is true.  Both moral and evil people can be attractive or repulsive physically.  Nothing is written on the face.

 Not true. All of these faces except Quin is obvious, but even she doesn't have a good face if you look close at it. + What exactly did she do or is doing that makes her evil? (even with that her face is not that great, she doesn't have that glow that good people have.
But what if you'd just  show the pictures with no context or name, would you still say they aren't that beautiful or even that they must be evil ?

 Honestly I was just wondering the exact same thing. It could be perception, but still their is something I believe when one sees people randomly, that we can tell on a certain level what type of people they are.
 And generally bad people, and bad deeds produce dark faces (I dont mean that as the skin color, but the glow), and good people have a certain shine to them, some more then others, some less, etc.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 06:46:25 PM by Tzvi Ben Roshel »
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2008, 06:50:29 PM »
And also Zelhar for sure I would believe soo with all of them maybe except for the queen, im not too sure. The the last one also has a dark face - just look at her eyes and her husbands eyes.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2008, 06:59:13 PM »
And also Zelhar for sure I would believe soo with all of them maybe except for the queen, im not too sure. The the last one also has a dark face - just look at her eyes and her husbands eyes.

Bashar Assad definitely looks mean.

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2008, 07:06:42 PM »
By the way like I was saying if you look at the queen, she is NOT that good looking (does not have a charm- or Chein) , look at her pics on the seach
http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/image?query=Quin+Rania+of+Jordan&page=1&displayCount=20&clickstreamid=7076522013478663686 (if it doesn't work, just write her name on google, and go to images)
definitly dark faced.   
« Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 07:08:54 PM by Tzvi Ben Roshel »
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2008, 07:10:46 PM »
I think that perhaps G-d gave some Nazis, like Riefenstahl and Anna Baltzer, good looks as a test to us--and, in particular, men. Will we enable ourselves, in our lustful ways, to be seduced by these demonesses?

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2008, 08:04:57 PM »
Regarding Queen Rania and Asma Assad, remember these are rich women who can afford the best hairdressers, makeup artists, and designer wardrobes.  Asma Assad doesn't look especially thin that picture either.  And while Queen Rania is thin, who knows what she really looks like without her makeup and her hair done. 

When I was in college a friend of mine had this book called Scavullo On Women.  The book consisted of photos of famous women taken by the late photographer Francesco Scavullo (who photographed many magazine covers for Cosmopolitan).  Anyway, this book had before and after photos of each of the women.  The before photos were taken in black and white.  The women had no makeup on, and their hair was not done up at all.  The after photos showed them with their hair and makeup in full color.  And no doubt for the after photos, Scavullo must have also used appropriate lighting. 

Needless to say, the pictures were like night and day. 

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2008, 08:08:43 PM »
Regarding Queen Rania and Asma Assad, remember these are rich women who can afford the best hairdressers, makeup artists, and designer wardrobes.  Asma Assad doesn't look especially thin that picture either.  And while Queen Rania is thin, who knows what she really looks like without her makeup and her hair done. 

When I was in college a friend of mine had this book called Scavullo On Women.  The book consisted of photos of famous women taken by the late photographer Francesco Scavullo (who photographed many magazine covers for Cosmopolitan).  Anyway, this book had before and after photos of each of the women.  The before photos were taken in black and white.  The women had no makeup on, and their hair was not done up at all.  The after photos showed them with their hair and makeup in full color.  And no doubt for the after photos, Scavullo must have also used appropriate lighting. 

Needless to say, the pictures were like night and day. 

 I think you missed the point. Its not about thin or fat, short or tall or other things like that, its the things the face tells.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2008, 08:11:46 PM »
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I think you missed the point. Its not about thin or fat, short or tall or other things like that, its the things the face tells.

No I did not miss the point.  I was just adding my perspective on the whole issue of famous evil women who happen to be good looking. 

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2008, 08:12:36 PM »
Don't forget Anna Baltzer, the Marxist campus speaker of Jewish descent who urges Israeli Arabs to do more suicide bombings!


Yimach schmo to this dyke, pretty or not.

True. Evil people do not always have to be ugly. They can be pretty and still be evil.

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2008, 10:10:33 PM »
I think Lisa has a good point.
What can you tell from outward appearance?
Evil comes in all shapes and sizes.
Sometimes it is very hard to spot by just looking at a person.
My Mother always tells me - You have to eat a sack of salt with someone before you truly know them.

This is part of a poem someone wrote about that

A sack of salt, my Grandma said

A pair should share before they're dead

Before either one can get to know

The other's way and what makes them so.





Be very CAREFUL of people whose WORDS don't match their ACTIONS.

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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2008, 10:36:19 PM »
I think Lisa has a good point.
What can you tell from outward appearance?


 Truthfully a lot, if you know how to look. The physical body and appearance is a reflection of the soul. The body is like a clothing that covers the soul, and just as one has a coat that fits the body, one has a body that fits and reflects the soul. (But beauty is not always in the way we look at it, or the way we were made to see what is beauitiful or not, their is a higher beauty, that we can percieve a little if we know how to look- and that is the light or auro that comes from a person- a certain glow or charm, and also the face. Their are those who can see much much more, but even the things that I said is not that hard for an average person like you and me to see.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: The Beauties of Evil
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2008, 10:41:33 PM »
That first picture of the woman on the skis is not pretty.  It looks like Margaret Thatcher half-naked on a cold day.

LOL  ;D   another gem from Dan ben Noah, I'm cracking up...

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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2008, 10:46:07 PM »
Let's not also forget Sari Bashi

And I don't think you can make an argument against Queen Rania being attractive.  Unfortunately she is. 

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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2008, 10:55:35 PM »
In America all of our evil women are just hideous looking- Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama, etc., etc.

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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2008, 11:30:03 PM »
I'm not saying Queen Rania is unattractive.  I'm just saying a lot good be accomplished with the right makeup, hair, eyebrows, designer clothing, and personal trainers. 

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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2008, 11:54:59 PM »
Don't forget Condomloser Lice. A Jew-hating baboonness she may be, but she is KILLER hot!  ;)

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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2008, 11:56:10 PM »
And I don't think you can make an argument against Queen Rania being attractive.  Unfortunately she is. 
She's okay. I think Anna Baltzer is cuter.