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--- Quote from: Shlomo on October 16, 2008, 09:20:46 AM ---Shalom q_q_,
Look, if you believe what he says,<snip>
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it doesn't work like that.
--- Quote from: Shlomo on October 16, 2008, 09:20:46 AM ---All that really matters is that you're a good yid who loves Hashem and does what he can to make the world better. Everyone has their own opinions and some people here believe the stuff he says. Chaim and I do not agree with Barry and think that he's reaching at straws. To me, it's comparable to the videos on YouTube that say our own government executed 911. Some folks believe in these type of things (some very smart people) and feel like there is enough to substantiate it but I've heard both sides and I don't. Chaim has written some on this subject too and a very small minority of members were banned for too much conspiracy material on the forum.
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I don't care about 911 conspiracies.
--- Quote from: Shlomo on October 16, 2008, 09:20:46 AM ---<snip>I had 3 of his books
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No wonder you think he's a nutter. His books are horrendous!
--- Quote from: Shlomo on October 16, 2008, 09:20:46 AM ---and I understand what your point of view is.
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I seriously doubt that.
--- Quote from: Shlomo on October 16, 2008, 09:20:46 AM ---I'd rather leave it at that with this topic rather than spend a couple of hours combing through Chamish's material when I need to be working on the new website.
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so then better not to just say he's a nutter and dismiss him when you don't have the hours to study the -relevant- material that he has produced/publicised.
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--- Quote from: Shlomo on October 16, 2008, 09:20:46 AM ---
I simply believe it's important to state JTF's position on the material because we wish to distance ourselves from it. That's all.
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As I showed, JTF has not distanced itself from a rabin conspiracy theory/"theory".
I am quite sure that "the material" that you have in mind would not be the relevant material to the discussion. Anyhow, as you have said, you are not willing to study the relevant material. That's the key here, why no intelligent discussion is possible on this issue. But then don't dismiss everything he says. all documentation that he has revealed.
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for others(not anybody participating in this thread), the main relevant material is chamish's video "who murdered yitzchak rabin", this has very clear video evidence .. and at one point it has chamish's evidence presented nicely by an american news program.. they interview the surgeon that wrote the medical reports.. he goes bright red when asked to explain a wound that he described in detail, when it wasn't meant to be there in the official story.
With the video, he can send you the medical reports, so you can follow along.
Natan Gefen's work is all in hebrew but should have the medical reports too, perhaps in the book itself. He presents things much better apparently.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
QQ you admit his books are horrible, I can only imagine the atrocious sourcing he must do, considering what his articles usually look like. The format is often intolerable. That style lends itself to appearing as a "nutter" rather than an academic or authority of any kind. Unfortunately for him.
But come on. Some of what he says is completely off the wall! And earlier in the thread you said chamish isn't into illuminati!? Are you serious? It's almost all he talks about these days. Listen to any of his radio appearances on his site, or when he talks to alex jones, he blames illuminati and sabbateans for just about everything.
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--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on October 16, 2008, 06:32:32 PM ---QQ you admit his books are horrible, I can only imagine the atrocious sourcing he must do, considering what his articles usually look like. The format is often intolerable. That style lends itself to appearing as a "nutter" rather than an academic or authority of any kind. Unfortunately for him.
But come on. Some of what he says is completely off the wall! And earlier in the thread you said chamish isn't into illuminati!? Are you serious? It's almost all he talks about these days. Listen to any of his radio appearances on his site, or when he talks to alex jones, he blames illuminati and sabbateans for just about everything.
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I don't care.
My point is not to dismiss what he has brought us on Rabin. The credentials or sanity of the messenger is irrelevant.
Of course, if you're going to say he is nutty, then be honest and say he is a genius too. He has an ability to understand very complex storylines, very quickly, and to spot things that others don't. A problem is that he enjoys it a bit too much.
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