tired of this treatment i am recieving

[tonycali99]

EVERYBODY ON JTF,

why am i abused like this constantly? i was not insulting to anyone yet, i get endless abuse in return. no im not as experianced as you all here, im a freshman and just discovered JTF like two month's ago, give a guy a break, but you guys just hate everyone whos diffrent and disagrees with you, esspecially on gay's. i never said i liked gay activity but i am not gonna hate an otherwys cool person because of who they love. there are a lot of pro-israel jew's and christian's who are gay, chew on that.

if you keep treateing me like this ill just leave.

**tonycali**

[jdl4ever]

We hate you because you are homosexual and Jews like myself hate homosexuals because it is a terrible abbomination in the eyes of G-d and is evil.  If that makes you feel terrible then good.  You are an evil homosexual pig.

[Trumpeldor]

EVERYBODY ON JTF,

why am i abused like this constantly? i was not insulting to anyone yet, i get endless abuse in return. no im not as experianced as you all here, im a freshman and just discovered JTF like two month's ago, give a guy a break, but you guys just hate everyone whos diffrent and disagrees with you, esspecially on gay's. i never said i liked gay activity but i am not gonna hate an otherwys cool person because of who they love. there are a lot of pro-israel jew's and christian's who are gay, chew on that.

if you keep treateing me like this ill just leave.

**tonycali**

What part of what JTF stands for do you like?

[Hail Columbia]

I can't stand rump rangers...

[cjd]

EVERYBODY ON JTF,

why am i abused like this constantly? i was not insulting to anyone yet, i get endless abuse in return. no im not as experianced as you all here, im a freshman and just discovered JTF like two month's ago, give a guy a break, but you guys just hate everyone whos diffrent and disagrees with you, esspecially on gay's. i never said i liked gay activity but i am not gonna hate an otherwys cool person because of who they love. there are a lot of pro-israel jew's and christian's who are gay, chew on that.

if you keep treateing me like this ill just leave.

**tonycali**

tonycali I am going to give you some friendly advise because you are new here on the forum and it seems that you are missing the point  on the forums position on homosexual issue. JTF is a religious forum despite what many people seem to think added to that fact for the most part many of our members are Conservatives as well. No matter how you look at it this issue has no place here on JTF forum. As I have told others in the past who feel they want to enlighten us here on the forum about homosexual issues we ain't buying it so don't try to sell it. Jabo gave you all the correct reasons for this not being a subject that interests us here on the forum. I sort of like the Clintons position on the issue. Don't ask. Don't tell and I would like to add don't even talk about it. You seem like a bright guy I am sure you have better issues to discuss with us here on the forum. 

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I can't stand rump rangers...

LOL... 

Yacov, I think you are a great admin and besides any friend of Chaim's is a friend of mine, but could you PLEASE reconsider your decision not to ban this fag?

I am ashamed to be from the same state and metropolitan area as this flaming fairy.

[MassuhDGoodName]

reply from MassuhD to tonycali:

Tonycali,

I am involved in the arts professionally.

As such, I have worked with, worked for, collaborated with, and coexisted with homosexuals of every variety.

Personally, I believe that a certain small portion of them are "born that way" from their genetic makeup; the rest I believe result from being "seduced" and "recruited" into the life style when they appear weak and vulnerable due to their social insecurities, poorly formed self-images, and/or other problems associated with puberty.

Do I accept their sexuality & sexual practices as normal?

No.

Do I consider their lifestyles "just a matter of choice...equal to all other lifestyles?

No.

Do I accept them as human beings with personalities and feelings; not to mention great talents?

Yes I do.

Nevertheless, I would discourage my children or students from "over-associating" with them, and especially would try to prevent my children from "identifying" with them as a "social reference group".

Unlike most in the Muslim world, we Jews have not literally obeyed the commands in Torah "they shall be put to death" for quite some time now.

I have read in Talmudic arguments that the phrase "they shall be put to death" can be interpreted to mean that the Creator can or will do this to their souls; not necessarily that we ourselves must do this to them.

When Moshe was advised to establish judges over Israel, he set down the edicts that "every judge was to make judgements according to their generations"; which again, Talmudic discourse has indicated to mean that Torah can and must be interpreted in accord to the constantly changing world in which Jews would find themselves; each new generation perceiving the old one as "passe" and somewhat old fashioned.

How to do effectively make interpretive judgements of Jewish Law, without "throwing the baby out with the bathwater", has to this day remained a great challenge to modern Judaism.

Even so, the Law remains on the books, and as the People Of The Book, we cling to Torah throughout the generations as our "lifeboat" and greatest possession; without our Torah, we are cut adrift forever in stormy seas.

The Talmud states that in the End Of Days, the Torah would be the modern Ark which would preserve the nation Israel from destruction.

A Jew who forsakes the Torah as his heritage, is soon cut off from his people and is considered formally "dead" in Judaism.

[angryChineseKahanist]

EVERYBODY ON JTF,

why am i abused like this constantly? i was not insulting to anyone yet, i get endless abuse in return. no im not as experianced as you all here, im a freshman and just discovered JTF like two month's ago, give a guy a break, but you guys just hate everyone whos diffrent and disagrees with you, esspecially on gay's. i never said i liked gay activity but i am not gonna hate an otherwys cool person because of who they love. there are a lot of pro-israel jew's and christian's who are gay, chew on that.

if you keep treateing me like this ill just leave.

**tonycali**

Tony, put down that broom stick. Sit down.
Tony, were you penetrated by many male negros as a child?
How did you become gay? And when?

[Fruit of thy loins]

I am involved in the arts professionally.

You are one of those artsy-farty culture-vulture types?   

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Tony, put down that broom stick. Sit down.
Tony, were you penetrated by many male negros as a child?
How did you become gay? And when?

Couldn't have put it better myself. 

[angryChineseKahanist]

Tony, put down that broom stick. Sit down.
Tony, were you penetrated by many male negros as a child?
How did you become gay? And when?

Couldn't have put it better myself. 

No, tonycali99, please don't go! Who will we make fun of if you leave?




http://www.skeptictank.org/gen3/gen01937.htm

[Trumpeldor]

The guy Travolta is kissing looked like Brad Pitt at first glance. Speaking of Pitt, I wonder if he ever considered going homo after a bad sex session with the most beautiful woman in the world, Angelina Jolie. Doesn't your life kind of peak after bagging Jolie?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I am probably the only one here who feels this way, but I always felt Jolie to be overrated. In her prime, while obviously attractive, she never quite "did it" for me. Now that she's had a couple kids and likely pickled herself with a few hundred gallons of vino, she's really taken a hit.

My fave actresses purely in the aesthetic sense would be, in no particular order: Portman, Jessica Biel (yes, I know she is a lesbian, I said only in terms of appearance), Cameron Diaz (more in the old days than now), and for some reason, despite her age, Kirstie Alley really does it for me... yee-ow. 

[kahaneloyalist]

I think we dont need to insult we can rationally debate. Tonycali I do want to know, are you a practicing homosexual?

And to the other members of the forum, as Jews we do not hate on a personal level we hate the actions that people do and behave to them as those actions merit. But only towards those who wish to harm the Jewish people do we feel hate, those who do averot on their own are generally misguided and should be shown the correct path rather then driven away.

[Trumpeldor]

I am probably the only one here who feels this way, but I always felt Jolie to be overrated. In her prime, while obviously attractive, she never quite "did it" for me. Now that she's had a couple kids and likely pickled herself with a few hundred gallons of vino, she's really taken a hit.

My fave actresses purely in the aesthetic sense would be, in no particular order: Portman, Jessica Biel (yes, I know she is a lesbian, I said only in terms of appearance), Cameron Diaz (more in the old days than now), and for some reason, despite her age, Kirstie Alley really does it for me... yee-ow. 

Chaimfan,
One thing is for sure. Not one of the names mentioned so far will carry their looks into later life as well as the immortal, sixty-six year-old Raquel Welch.

Note: This is a tasteful photo and I don't consider it to be pornographic or against the rules of this forum. This thread discusses the evil of homosexuality and Chaimfan and I are simply extolling the merits of physical beauty in a woman.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

RW is okay, I suppose--albeit she is a little before my time, so to speak. Everyone, please note that my brief list of actresses I like was intended merely as a superficial expression of who I find visually attractive and just that--of course I know that most if not all of them are deeply depraved and disgusting. I know Portman was born on a kibbutz and is 100% Jewish, but she is also good friends with Cl*tney Queers and other Hollyweird slime (plus a big-time liberal Democrat).

Although my tastes are all over the spectrum, I find that I most consistently am drawn towards "nerds" and tomboys--women who eschew makeup and unnatural primping and dress for function and comfort rather than style. I really dig chicks with glasses for some reason...  I like full figures (as in quite a bit more than what the Bolshevist FDA calls "the norm"), but can be attracted easily to almost any reasonably healthy body type.

(My apologies if this discussion is causing Tonycali to vomit. [Not.]) 

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Blasphemous and vile in my book. 

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...You are one of those artsy-farty culture-vulture types?..."

That would be my management.

Me?  I'm an buffalo chip kickin', back-in-the-alley, no punches pulled, rodeo star.

Catch my act next time you're in town...I gallop at full speed towards a negro with a lit Pall Mall 100 hanging from his lower lip, bullwhip cutting the air as I swing it over my head in a circle...around... and around...two full circles...

With a sudden snap of the wrist, I position the whip perfectly vertical, pointed heavenwards as if it were a braided mamba snake on the verge of descent, and then, with a blood freezing scream.....

eeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEE !

I charge full on, the paying audience in turgid suspense, awaiting my deft removal of the cigarette from the mouth of the valiant old negro, his eyes now squeezed tightly shut in his attempt to remain motionless!

Then, my whip descends like a thunderclap, cutting a perfect arc, and, my steed fully bearing down on its dark, motionless target...

I cut both of the watermelon shaped lips from the black face; projecting the Pall Mall through a ring of its own smoke up into the air.... free at last...free at last...until it falls downwards...

to rapturous applause.

 

[angryChineseKahanist]

The guy Travolta is kissing looked like Brad Pitt
at first glance. Speaking of Pitt, I wonder if he
ever considered going homo after a bad sex
session with the most beautiful woman in the
world, Angelina Jolie. Doesn't your life kind
 of peak after bagging Jolie?

Yeah, looks like Brad Pitt and John Travolta had put on some weight.