What do JTF-ers think about Jonathan Pollard?

[q_q_]

You guys have to understand my position before throwing out the Nazi word...

You can't be letting other countries, whether they are allies or not be having people go into the intelligence community to steal information. The US needs to show it won't tolerate any thing of that sort.

I doubt you guys would be saying the same thing if the UK or some other ally did the same thing, which is hypocritical.

if you do a crime you can expect to pay a price. (even if the crime was a moral one)

But Jonathan Pollard has served FAR more time than others that have committed worse offences(uk we spell it with a c).

Pollard passed information to an ally.  Others have passed information to an enemy and served less prison time.

[Rubystars]

You guys have to understand my position before throwing out the Nazi word...

You can't be letting other countries, whether they are allies or not be having people go into the intelligence community to steal information. The US needs to show it won't tolerate any thing of that sort.

I doubt you guys would be saying the same thing if the UK or some other ally did the same thing, which is hypocritical.

Save it for StørmFrønt. Only a goosestepping WN would be sad that Saddam Hussein's nuclear facilities were destroyed by the Israeli air force (thanks to Pollard doing the right thing).

C.F. I think you're going a little far in attacking him. Not everyone understands the whole story here or why it's JTF's position that Pollard be freed.

[Xoce]

CF why are you so anti Reagan?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Because he was behind the prosecution of Pollard. This Saudi-fellating, Jew-hating beast was behind the prosecution of Pollard from the start. Reagan had a horrible track record on Israel. Don't forget that he sent Marines to Lebanon in order to protect the PLO headquarters and Hezbollah from the Israeli army. In the process, he got 250 Marines murdered.

[Dan]

You guys have to understand my position before throwing out the Nazi word...

You can't be letting other countries, whether they are allies or not be having people go into the intelligence community to steal information. The US needs to show it won't tolerate any thing of that sort.

I doubt you guys would be saying the same thing if the UK or some other ally did the same thing, which is hypocritical.

Save it for StørmFrønt. Only a goosestepping WN would be sad that Saddam Hussein's nuclear facilities were destroyed by the Israeli air force (thanks to Pollard doing the right thing).

C.F. I think you're going a little far in attacking him. Not everyone understands the whole story here or why it's JTF's position that Pollard be freed.

C.F. is right to be critical of GNG, JTF's position on Johnatan Pollard is Clear and without any doubt.
I think that GNG is a [censored] or a closet nazi who wanted to stir trouble again on the forum, he should be put on a short leash.

[Rubystars]

We'll have to wait and see.

[t_h_j]

Ronald Reagan (who, praise G-d, is being boiled in the lake of fire as we speak) did this to Pollard as a favor to his Saudi masters.

pure, uncalled for idiocy

[Raulmarrio2000]

According to what I've read, Pollard simply deliverad information to Israel which was vital for Israeli security. Giving information to an ally without permission is a minor crime under US Law. Even if he was sure he did what is morally correct, he still plead guilty of violating US Law. Morality and Law not always go together. But the penalty for him would be four years in jail at worst, and the US gave him a life sentence!!!
And even if he really deserved a lafe sentecnce under US Law, Govts usually pardon offender in bilateral agreements. Israel released several terrorists who deserve life prison at least, jut to seek "peace". And it was endorsed by the US. Why cannot US president pardon him, and send him to Israel???

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

pure, uncalled for idiocy

*shh... pipe down everybody. I think a Pat Buchanan supporter was trying to squeak something, but I couldn't make it out...*

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

We'll have to wait and see.

What's to wait and see? This individual has deliberately chosen to spell out G-d's name in his screenname, which is offensive to Jews. Shlomo will lay a beatdown on his rear any minute now.

[Taylor]

Because he was behind the prosecution of Pollard. This Saudi-fellating, Jew-hating beast was behind the prosecution of Pollard from the start. Reagan had a horrible track record on Israel. Don't forget that he sent Marines to Lebanon in order to protect the PLO headquarters and Hezbollah from the Israeli army. In the process, he got 250 Marines murdered.

I think Reagan did more good then bad. What do you think?

FREE POLLARD NOW!

[t_h_j]

Because he was behind the prosecution of Pollard. This Saudi-fellating, Jew-hating beast was behind the prosecution of Pollard from the start. Reagan had a horrible track record on Israel. Don't forget that he sent Marines to Lebanon in order to protect the PLO headquarters and Hezbollah from the Israeli army. In the process, he got 250 Marines murdered.

I think Reagan did more good then bad. What do you think?

FREE POLLARD NOW!

it's clear what he thinks.  Once again, CF calls for someone to suffer.  He seems to do that with everyone he disagrees with.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

You guys have to understand my position before throwing out the Nazi word...

You can't be letting other countries, whether they are allies or not be having people go into the intelligence community to steal information. The US needs to show it won't tolerate any thing of that sort.

I doubt you guys would be saying the same thing if the UK or some other ally did the same thing, which is hypocritical.

The only hypocrite here is you (and people who think like you).   EVERY COUNTRY is spying on every other country.  Get that through your thick head.   In some cases agents give over information to ENEMY nations, even information that compromises US security to those enemy nations, and THEY don't get anywhere near the sentence that Pollard got.     And here, Pollard spied for not an enemy nation but AN ALLY, and he didn't give any information that put the US at any kind of security risk.   He merely provided Israel with information that was vital to its security, which the US had agreed to help provide them with anyway but were withholding it for obviously antisemitic reasons.   The same kind of reasons used by people like you who try to promote the idea that Pollard should remain in jail, chas veshalom.      May he be freed soon and let's see if you eat your words.

[Ulli]

I have heard somewhere this statement:

The gentile is excused, but the Jew is hung.

Sad but often true.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

it's clear what he thinks.  Once again, CF calls for someone to suffer.  He seems to do that with everyone he disagrees with.

If your friend Buchanan passed intelligence to the country that he is loyal to, Russia, I guarantee you he'd be sentenced to a lot less than Pollard was.

Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanson, who reported a dozen-odd CIA agents in Russia to the KGB, got lighter sentences than Pollard. But I'm sure you think they were framed up by a "Zionist conspiracy."

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

The only hypocrite here is you (and people who think like you).   EVERY COUNTRY is spying on every other country.  Get that through your thick head.   In some cases agents give over information to ENEMY nations, even information that compromises US security to those enemy nations, and THEY don't get anywhere near the sentence that Pollard got.     And here, Pollard spied for not an enemy nation but AN ALLY, and he didn't give any information that put the US at any kind of security risk.   He merely provided Israel with information that was vital to its security, which the US had agreed to help provide them with anyway but were withholding it for obviously antisemitic reasons.   The same kind of reasons used by people like you who try to promote the idea that Pollard should remain in jail, chas veshalom.      May he be freed soon and let's see if you eat your words.

Very true and well-stated, but don't expect Nazis and Pat Buchanan supporters (not that those aren't one and the same) to listen to logic and reason against their Jew-theories. Just report SatanGunsandGlory's posts. I'm going to right now.

[Lisa]

[size 9pt]The only hypocrite here is you (and people who think like you).   EVERY COUNTRY is spying on every other country.  Get that through your thick head.   In some cases agents give over information to ENEMY nations, even information that compromises US security to those enemy nations, and THEY don't get anywhere near the sentence that Pollard got.     And here, Pollard spied for not an enemy nation but AN ALLY, and he didn't give any information that put the US at any kind of security risk.   He merely provided Israel with information that was vital to its security, which the US had agreed to help provide them with anyway but were withholding it for obviously antisemitic reasons.   The same kind of reasons used by people like you who try to promote the idea that Pollard should remain in jail, chas veshalom.      May he be freed soon and let's see if you eat your words. [/size 9pt]

KWR is absolutely right.  JTF fully supports Jonathan Pollard.  Therefore any comments about how he should stay in jail will NOT be tolerated here. 

[t_h_j]

it's clear what he thinks.  Once again, CF calls for someone to suffer.  He seems to do that with everyone he disagrees with.

If your friend Buchanan passed intelligence to the country that he is loyal to, Russia, I guarantee you he'd be sentenced to a lot less than Pollard was.

Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanson, who reported a dozen-odd CIA agents in Russia to the KGB, got lighter sentences than Pollard. But I'm sure you think they were framed up by a "Zionist conspiracy."

another stupid post from CF.  What else is new

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

another stupid post from CF.  What else is new

I notice you didn't deny what I said! ;-)

[q_q_]

another stupid post from CF.  What else is new

I notice you didn't deny what I said! ;-)

Normally when you make your ridiculous comments, then say

"You didn't Deny it"

you don't follow it with a wink

You have here though. This looks like a defence tactic on your part (so this time you can say that you were only joking).

Of course, it's no defence to the retort, "never a truer word spoken in jest", but it leaves you some wiggle room that you forgot to leave yourself in the past.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Normally when you make your ridiculous comments, then say

"You didn't Deny it"

you don't follow it with a wink

You have here though. This looks like a defence tactic on your part (so this time you can say that you were only joking).

Of course, it's no defence to the retort, "never a truer word spoken in jest", but it leaves you some wiggle room that you forgot to leave yourself in the past.

Umm, what is your point, dude?

[muman613]

Normally when you make your ridiculous comments, then say

"You didn't Deny it"

you don't follow it with a wink

You have here though. This looks like a defence tactic on your part (so this time you can say that you were only joking).

Of course, it's no defence to the retort, "never a truer word spoken in jest", but it leaves you some wiggle room that you forgot to leave yourself in the past.

Umm, what is your point, dude?

CF,

Nevermind q_q_, he enjoys giving people a hard time for no reason besides his own ego...

muman613

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

CF,

Nevermind q_q_, he enjoys giving people a hard time for no reason besides his own ego...

muman613

Yeah, I kind of picked up on that. ;-) Hence my deliberately simple question in response.

[GodGunsAndGlory]

pure, uncalled for idiocy

*shh... pipe down everybody. I think a Pat Buchanan supporter was trying to squeak something, but I couldn't make it out...*

Please show me Reagan's involvement in the Pollard case.

Remember that the correlation of Reagan being president does not imply causation.

So pipe down until you can back up your idiotic claims.

[muman613]

pure, uncalled for idiocy

*shh... pipe down everybody. I think a Pat Buchanan supporter was trying to squeak something, but I couldn't make it out...*

Please show me Reagan's involvement in the Pollard case.

Remember that the correlation of Reagan being president does not imply causation.

So pipe down until you can back up your idiotic claims.

Caspar Weinberger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspar_Weinberger

Ronald Reagans Secretary of State was intimately involved in the persecution {sic} of Jonathan Pollard.