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Accepting the Torah, But Remaining a Gentile
q_q_:
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--- Quote from: q_q_ on December 18, 2008, 02:06:30 PM ---<snip>
Maybe religious zionists are a minority of orthodox jews even in israel.
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No, it's about half and half.
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half and half in growth too?
judeanoncapta:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on December 18, 2008, 02:10:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on December 18, 2008, 02:08:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: q_q_ on December 18, 2008, 02:06:30 PM ---<snip>
Maybe religious zionists are a minority of orthodox jews even in israel.
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No, it's about half and half.
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half and half in growth too?
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No, the haredi growth rate is atleast 50 percent higher.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on December 18, 2008, 01:54:45 PM ---Actually during the crusades, Saladin invited Sufi Imams to watch his men behead prisoners of war. They gleefully accepted.
So therefore charismatic Muslims are charismatic about Islam. Which means being charismatic about Bloodshed and Death.
In fact one of the main Islamic factions who are building up toward violent revolution in Morrocco are Sufi.
Also the Chechens belong to a Sufi sect and they've blowing up Infidels for quite a while now.
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Of course the Sufi are evil jihadist Nazis--that was not in doubt. That is why I questioned whether it would be fair to use the term "charismatic" (which is generally used just for righteous religions) on them. But Sufis are experientially- and emotionally-oriented Muslims in their practice, so they are charismatic in that way.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: judeanoncapta on December 18, 2008, 01:50:00 PM ---If you don't beleive in the prophecy of Moses, how can you accept the Seven Laws written therein?
Although if you mean accept as in "are required to keep and practice", then no. Noahides are not required to keep those commandments that were commanded by G-d through Moses to the Children of Israel.
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Sorry, I meant "required to keep" by accept.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on December 18, 2008, 01:52:45 PM ---I've said many times that he is quite logical, but you missed it because the threads were high level , you weren't in them.
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I do believe I was using sarcasm; I guess you missed it.
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