What do you think of the octuplet situation?

[Gruzinit]

Since this story of a women delievering eight babies hit the presses, it has veered from touching to downright disturbing.

Nadya Suleman, only thirty-three, already has six children, all previously concieved through IVF. What I assumed to be a case a childless couple using fertilty drugs to concieve can also be dismissed, as no father or boyfriend has been named or chosen to come forth.

This women had her frozen embryos left over after her previous pregnancies implanted all at once so they wouldn't "go to waste." I think the "genius" in-vitro specialist who would willing have implanted eight embryos into this women, despite knowing the potenital risks associated should have his license revoked.

This is not over abortion, but that this women intentionally chose to do this gives me great concern over her mental state. While not a physician myself, it is basic knowledge that the female uterus can carry only one or two fetuses at a time. With multiple pregnancies, there are severe risks (http://www.startribune.com/local/11591371.html) as each baby must struggle for nourishment and oxygen and is almost certain to be born prematurely, which can pose numerous health risks. This women is very lucky she had top of the line medical care probably monitoring her and her babies 24/7, which allowed her to carry all babies to term and born under such healthy circumstances.

What makes me even more concerned is that this women is seeking $2 million dollars for t.v. interviews, endorsement deals and magazine covers! It she did this to gain publicity or money, it is a horrid display of narcissistic irresponsiblty.

What do you guys think?

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-me-octuplets31-2009jan31,0,841716.story?track=rss

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_re_us/octuplets_10

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5627531.ece

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

It's absolutely hideous. But that's what happens when you have a society that worships procreation, particularly for third-worlders.

Israelis don't have the right to live, but third-world wonders have the right not just to spawn as much as they want, but demand taxpayer subsidies for as many kids as they want.

[mord]

The women is a Palestinian with 6 little pigs already where did she get the money for this procedure.I understand the procedure is very expensive plus she's not married now 8 more she'll probably be on public welfare

[Rubystars]

I hope the babies will grow up to be good and decent people. I also wish this for her six other children.

[briann]

It's absolutely hideous. But that's what happens when you have a society that worships procreation, particularly for third-worlders.

Israelis don't have the right to live, but third-world wonders have the right not just to spawn as much as they want, but demand taxpayer subsidies for as many kids as they want.

Ditto

[SavetheWest]

I hope the babies will grow up to be good and decent people. I also wish this for her six other children.

Not likely.  They will probably grow up to be nice little Muzzies. 

[syyuge]

14*14*14*14*14*14*14*14 = 1475789056

It is an End Game of only eight moves or generations.

[Rubystars]

I hope the babies will grow up to be good and decent people. I also wish this for her six other children.

Not likely.  They will probably grow up to be nice little Muzzies. 

I didn't say it was likely, but I believe that God can reach anyone and change their views.

[Masha]

Notice the hospital photograph in LA Times. All 3 people featured are non-white. The US is turning into a non-white country. I wonder who the affirmative action genuis was who allowed the implantation of 8 embrios? Was it Dr Gupta? save us G-d from Dr's Guptas, Barakas, Kwons, etc...

[Rubystars]

I'm surprised if Gupta wouldn't recommend aborting or killing girls. That's what they do in his ancestral homeland.

One of the most horrific methods is "dry drowning", where the open mouth of a female infant, searching for her mother's nipple, receives instead a handful of grain or rice which chokes the child to death.

"It's all up to the husband and it is usually the husband's side of the family who - you know - are putting the pressure on.
"As soon as you are pregnant, everyone sits there and looks at you and says: 'It's going to be a boy.'
"It's not a nice feeling when you've had your baby and you are really proud of her, and they turn round and dismiss her as just another mistake.

In India, of course, such rules are not strictly enforced. Some clinics in poorer districts have posters on the walls saying: "600 rupees now and save 50,000 rupees later."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499284/Britains-missing-babies-A-chilling-new-investigation-reveals-disturbing-trend.html

[✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ]

I'm surprised if Gupta wouldn't recommend aborting or killing girls. That's what they do in his ancestral homeland.

One of the most horrific methods is "dry drowning", where the open mouth of a female infant, searching for her mother's nipple, receives instead a handful of grain or rice which chokes the child to death.

"It's all up to the husband and it is usually the husband's side of the family who - you know - are putting the pressure on.
"As soon as you are pregnant, everyone sits there and looks at you and says: 'It's going to be a boy.'
"It's not a nice feeling when you've had your baby and you are really proud of her, and they turn round and dismiss her as just another mistake.

In India, of course, such rules are not strictly enforced. Some clinics in poorer districts have posters on the walls saying: "600 rupees now and save 50,000 rupees later."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499284/Britains-missing-babies-A-chilling-new-investigation-reveals-disturbing-trend.html

the topic is about octuplets, what has that got to do with this? is it because you are always conscious of Indian bashing?

[Masha]

Daughters are considered an economic burden with the dowry system, in particular, resulting in financial ruin or extreme hardship for many families when the women marry.

That's all very well, but what does it have to do with Britain? The article speaks of the shortage of British Indian girls. So you can't blame it on dowry.

Incidentally, it's a bit underhanded to single out Indians. As if Pakis and other muzzies don't do the same thing...

[Masha]

I'm surprised if Gupta wouldn't recommend aborting or killing girls. That's what they do in his ancestral homeland.

One of the most horrific methods is "dry drowning", where the open mouth of a female infant, searching for her mother's nipple, receives instead a handful of grain or rice which chokes the child to death.

"It's all up to the husband and it is usually the husband's side of the family who - you know - are putting the pressure on.
"As soon as you are pregnant, everyone sits there and looks at you and says: 'It's going to be a boy.'
"It's not a nice feeling when you've had your baby and you are really proud of her, and they turn round and dismiss her as just another mistake.

In India, of course, such rules are not strictly enforced. Some clinics in poorer districts have posters on the walls saying: "600 rupees now and save 50,000 rupees later."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499284/Britains-missing-babies-A-chilling-new-investigation-reveals-disturbing-trend.html

the topic is about octuplets, what has that got to do with this? is it because you are always conscious of Indian bashing?

It's the editors who bash Indians by singling out Indians as the only culprits. They are a safe target.

[✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ]

I'm surprised if Gupta wouldn't recommend aborting or killing girls. That's what they do in his ancestral homeland.

One of the most horrific methods is "dry drowning", where the open mouth of a female infant, searching for her mother's nipple, receives instead a handful of grain or rice which chokes the child to death.

"It's all up to the husband and it is usually the husband's side of the family who - you know - are putting the pressure on.
"As soon as you are pregnant, everyone sits there and looks at you and says: 'It's going to be a boy.'
"It's not a nice feeling when you've had your baby and you are really proud of her, and they turn round and dismiss her as just another mistake.

In India, of course, such rules are not strictly enforced. Some clinics in poorer districts have posters on the walls saying: "600 rupees now and save 50,000 rupees later."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499284/Britains-missing-babies-A-chilling-new-investigation-reveals-disturbing-trend.html

the topic is about octuplets, what has that got to do with this? is it because you are always conscious of Indian bashing?

It's the editors who bash Indians by singling out Indians as the only culprits. They are a safe target.

Thanks for understanding

[Rubystars]

They "single them out" because these practices are rampant in India and China. Both countries devalue and murder girls both in the womb and out of the womb. Muslims also do this but the mass media doesn't want to offend the filthy Quranimals.

Telling the truth is not "bashing".

Also someone else brought up Gupta.

[✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ]

They "single them out" because these practices are rampant in India and China. Both countries devalue and murder girls both in the womb and out of the womb. Muslims also do this but the mass media doesn't want to offend the filthy Quranimals.

Telling the truth is not "bashing".

Also someone else brought up Gupta.

the rate of teenage pregnancy is very high in european and American countires,does that mean the culture of these countires promote bad moral values? certainly not. If you want to base your views on the generalization of biased media,i cannot help you.

India's current president is female, India's Chief Minister of the Capital - New Delhi is also female. Highly acclaimed Hindu Saint Sadhvi Ritambara who pulls lakhs of crowd at the rallies is also female. The head of ruling indian government is also a woman.Present Mayor or Mumbai is also a female. The leader/founder of a extreme right wing radical Hindu group is also a woman - Himani Savarkar(daughter in law of VD Savarkar)

And if thats not enough.. Indian women most of the times win Miss Word/Universe/Sexiest tag 

[Masha]

Also someone else brought up Gupta.

Yes, I brought up Gupta - let me clarify. I have nothing against the Indian and Chinese. The place I'm coming from is white nationalism. I thing the world would be a much better place if it remained somewhat homogenuous. I am not talking about 100% pure, because people will always marry foreigners and move to other countries for other legitimate reasons. But when you get to a figure of 1/3 population being people of anotehr race, it becomes very disconcerting. I think that neither Chinese, nor Indians would like it very much if there were an immigration flood into their countries, and 1/3 of their population became European, even if they originally didn't have any ill feelings against the European. I recently visited California after a prolonged absence and was chocked  at how absolutely non-white it has become. It absolutely exceeded my expectations. When so many people come from cultures that are not compatible with the West, this makes it very bad for everyone. Nobody is happy. Just as Indians are entitled to live in their country and practice their culture and not forced into multiculturalism, so should Westerners. I whole-heartedly welcome Indian nationalists on this forum. I am sure that, being nationalists, they should understand where Euro nationalists are coming from.

[Dr. Dan]

I'm jealous that Jews don't have that many children yet evil people do and get away with it.

[✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ]

Also someone else brought up Gupta.

Yes, I brought up Gupta - let me clarify. I have nothing against the Indian and Chinese. The place I'm coming from is white nationalism. I thing the world would be a much better place if it remained somewhat homogenuous. I am not talking about 100% pure, because people will always marry foreigners and move to other countries for other legitimate reasons. But when you get to a figure of 1/3 population being people of anotehr race, it becomes very disconcerting. I think that neither Chinese, nor Indians would like it very much if there were an immigration flood into their countries, and 1/3 of their population became European, even if they originally didn't have any ill feelings against the European. I recently visited California after a prolonged absence and was chocked  at how absolutely non-white it has become. It absolutely exceeded my expectations. When so many people come from cultures that are not compatible with the West, this makes it very bad for everyone. Nobody is happy. Just as Indians are entitled to live in their country and practice their culture and not forced into multiculturalism, so should Westerners. I whole-heartedly welcome Indian nationalists on this forum. I am sure that, being nationalists, they should understand where Euro nationalists are coming from.

i agree on every point you mentioned..World will be a better place when nationalists like us understand each other better and confront the real enemies of ours.. i.e Jehadi Islamists

[SavetheWest]

14*14*14*14*14*14*14*14 = 1475789056

It is an End Game of only eight moves or generations.

Yup.  It doesn't take long.  51% of France's population under five is Muslim.

[Vito]

14*14*14*14*14*14*14*14 = 1475789056

It is an End Game of only eight moves or generations.

Yup.  It doesn't take long.  51% of France's population under five is Muslim.

Good G-d is that really a true statistic? Do you have sources for that?

[Rubystars]

At least Israel's future could be brighter if the religious Jews there keep having a lot of children.

[Vito]

the rate of teenage pregnancy is very high in european and American countires,does that mean the culture of these countires promote bad moral values?

Teenage pregnancy in Europe is very high because of the Koranimals, teenage pregnancy is high in America because of the belly rubbers (Central Americans).

This isn't the 1800's when it was normal for American (white) teenagers to start having children. We're living in totally different times.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Rubystars, not all Indians approve of this practice by any stretch. We both know that. In fact, many Hindu Nationalists (i.e. hinduunity.org) specifically state that they want to end female infanticide.

Please don't go here right now.

[Rubystars]

Rubystars, not all Indians approve of this practice by any stretch. We both know that. In fact, many Hindu Nationalists (i.e. hinduunity.org) specifically state that they want to end female infanticide.

Please don't go here right now.

Not all of any huge group agree on anything.

Muslims are the exception of course, because every single Muslim serious about their religion is bent on destruction of everything good and decent.

I do think the Muslims are the primary enemy of us all, which is one thing that me and HZ agree on.