Muslims behead three young girls for the crime of being Christian

[azrom]

An Indonesian court has sentenced three Muslim militants to jail for beheading three Christian schoolgirls in Central Sulawesi in 2005.

Hasanuddin, 34, was given 20 years for planning the attack, while two accomplices were given 14 years.

Hasanuddin had earlier told the court he helped plan the attack but rejected allegations he masterminded it.

The beheading of the girls, attacked as they walked to school in Poso in 2005, drew international condemnation.

It also fanned tensions in Sulawesi, where Muslim-Christian violence has continued despite a 2002 peace deal.

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Last Updated: Wednesday, 21 March 2007, 09:30 GMT E-mail this to a friend Printable version Indonesians jailed for beheadings Indonesian Hasanuddin at court in Jakarta, 8/11/06 Hasanuddin has admitted his involvement in the attacks An Indonesian court has sentenced three Muslim militants to jail for beheading three Christian schoolgirls in Central Sulawesi in 2005.

Hasanuddin, 34, was given 20 years for planning the attack, while two accomplices were given 14 years.

Hasanuddin had earlier told the court he helped plan the attack but rejected allegations he masterminded it.

The beheading of the girls, attacked as they walked to school in Poso in 2005, drew international condemnation.

It also fanned tensions in Sulawesi, where Muslim-Christian violence has continued despite a 2002 peace deal.

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Hasanuddin’s denial was rejected by chief judge Binsar Siregar, who said: “The accused was proven to plan and move other people to carry out terror acts.”

The court in Jakarta was also told that Hasanuddin had left a message next to the severed heads of the girls, saying: “A life for a life. A head for a head”.

A separate court sentenced defendants Irwanto Irano and Lilik Purwanto to 14 years each.

Speaking before his sentencing, Hasanuddin said going to jail did not concern him.

“It’s not a problem (if I am being sentenced to prison) because this is a part of our struggle. What will become a problem is if our brothers decide to get revenge,” he said.

The three girls were attacked as they walked to the private Christian school near their home in Poso. One of their heads was discovered outside a church.

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[mord]

They themselfs should be beheaded to sentence is too light

[Sarah]

What motivates a person to do such a thing?!

[azrom]

We can't apply human standards to these animals.

[cosmokramer]

These animals need to be dipped in pig fat and castrated. And thats just being light on them.

[ftfl]

cosmokramer if we do that to them we are as bad as them.

[genteelgentile]

Radical Muslims only understand force.  Force should be used. 

[MarZutra]

What motivates a person to do such a thing?!

Islam is the motive....  Mohammad, may piss be upon him, did the same thing....  But than again "Islam is a religion of "peace"".  Perhaps it is a "cultural" thing cutting off the heads of the unbelievers...  Most "enlightened" university professors would argue that it was a genetic disorder which makes Muslims cut off heads and therefore they are not responsible for their actions because "they were born that way". 

What a vile religion....

[Sarah]

Its easy for you to say. You are able to judge the it in a different light.

[TruthTyper]

Muslims are animals. Their attacks on Western Civilized nations should never be forgotten nor forgiven. Islam is a sick spin-off of Judaism. Mohammad, from what I hear, studied Judaism/Christianity and then put his own sick twist on it. The Arabian nations were much more peaceful under paganism and/or another abrahamic faith (such as chirstianity or judaism)

[MarZutra]

Actually, you are very correct.  If one delves into Islamic history one can directly compare many of the twisted.....that is twisted.....aspects of both Judaism and, to some aspect, Christianity.  The most blatant fact is that Islam is so molested with ancient paganism and the gnostic occultic type philosophies that it is less a "sister" faith to Judaism or Christianity.  The entire concept of the hajj and the kaaba stone is pagan and much within their Quraan is twisted Talmudic teachings with pure paganism.  If one wishes to see specific details of pagan aspects within Islam one only needs to research the great Occultist and Religious Philosopher Manly P. Hall's "The Secret Teachings of All Ages", "The Mystics of Islam" or other works.  Granted that this 33rd degree Free Mason is pro-Occult and Mysticism while he displays many facts of early Persian, Asian, Egyptian, Greek and Arabian Esoteric Occultism....from which Islam stems...

[Sarah]

How is Hajj similar to paganism. People take the pilgrimage to different levels, its just meant to be a holy act of worship that involves retracing the footsteps of Muhammed s.a.w and repeating praises to God. The black stone is meant to be a holy reminisence and is defintly NOT meant to be prayed to or considered too great. Its just the remains of the story.

[Muck DeFuslims]

Hajj is one of my favorite Fuslim events.
Watching the foul smelling Fuslim braindead buttclowns stampede each other into the Meccaca dirt always brings a smile to my face. And the Hajj Fuslims really are foul smelling, as they are prohibited from bathing or changing their shoes during their Hajj journey.
Combine not bathing and wiping your butt with pebbles (can't remember if they're supposed to use the right or left hand or an even or odd amount of pebbles ) and you can imagine the stench emanating from the Mohammedan Morons.
I'm thinking if a human could get close enough to this event without puking his brains out, he could do the world a favor by handing out exploding pebbles for the Fuslims to throw and cleated sandals to increase the efficiency of the ensuing stampede.

Any individual that admires the mass murderer, pedophile, serial rapist, misogynist, liar, thief, terrorist Mo and attempts to emulate the dirtbag can't possibly be a decent, moral person.

When dealing with Fuslims one must always think in terms of security, never peace.

Fuslims should be encourage to kill each other, because when Fuslims are busy killing each other they have less time to murder humans.

[MarZutra]

Firstly, I judge people in the same light as they should be; by their deeds.  What is it with you anyway?  Islam is responsible for 100% of World Terrorism today yet you are blinded to it.  Your co-religionists are and is involved in 15 of the major conflicts, out of 16, on Earth today?  I suppose Achmedinajad in Iran, the House of Saud, Saudi Arabia and every other Muslim nation are not "Muslims"?  Do you see anyone else from any other faith quoting out of their holy books while they cut off heads, blowing themselves up, rallying by the hundreds of thousands for Jihad yelling "bomb bomb UK", "Death to America", "Death to Britain", "Death to Israel", "Death to the Jews", cutting their heads with knives and letting blood flow down their faces as they rally to Jihad....run to Hizbollah, Hamas, Fatah, PLO, PLA, Al Quaida, Al Aqza....etc...  Oh I forgot all religions lead to G-d and all are "equal" and "peaceful" and all have mass terrorist movements?  No....you don't.......ONLY that deprave sandspider cult: ISLAM!

Perhaps if you researched more into your religion and its history you might come around, especially that murderous, rapist savage "prophet" Mohammed.  Do you really believe Islam spread through out the world by "peace" and peaceful missionary work?  That would be as big a lie, if not greater, than the Bolistian Beoble occupying the "West Bank" (which of course does not exist either) 

It is perfectly acceptable to Judge others......  Righteous people deserve blessings.....Charrah deserve .......

Tabari VII:97 - "The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.'"

Bukhari:V1B1N6 - "Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country."

Tabari VIII:38  - "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Perhaps murder, expansionism, rape, intolerance, hatred, lies, deceit must be a cultural thing? Perhaps people can be "born" terrorists?  Perhaps it is a mass chemical imbalance that causes Muslims to flock to Jihad against all free, non Islamic nations and use their billions of oil revenues against every free democracy?  Perhaps it is the pressures from man’s increased emissions of CO2 causing Global Warming that causes Muslims to act this way?  I wonder why “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” and “Mein Kempf”, after 60 years of “progress”, are still the most read literature within the Islamic World to the point of its "teachings" being embedded within Islamic school curriculum...of course....next to the Quraan?  I wonder why there are next to no Muslims speaking out within the Islamic World against Jihad, terrorism, the fabricated "Palestinian People" and their genocidal goal of "Kill the Jew" and "Destroy Israel"? 

G-d willing Ol-Whitey finally wakes up to the lies they are told by their Socialist/Liberal/Fascist leaders about Islam….  Islam comes from the primitive desert dwellers of Arabia, that is where it should have remained.  Islam is unfit to remain in the civilized world.  It is a totally vulgar primitive molestation of many ideologies and is only comparable Nazism......period, end, full stop.

[Sarah]

Firstly, I judge people in the same light as they should be; by their deeds.  What is it with you anyway?  Islam is responsible for 100% of World Terrorism today yet you are blinded to it.  Your co-religionists are and is involved in 15 of the major conflicts, out of 16, on Earth today?  I suppose Achmedinajad in Iran, the House of Saud, Saudi Arabia and every other Muslim nation are not "Muslims"?  Do you see anyone else from any other faith quoting out of their holy books while they cut off heads, blowing themselves up, rallying by the hundreds of thousands for Jihad yelling "bomb bomb UK", "Death to America", "Death to Britain", "Death to Israel", "Death to the Jews", cutting their heads with knives and letting blood flow down their faces as they rally to Jihad....run to Hizbollah, Hamas, Fatah, PLO, PLA, Al Quaida, Al Aqza....etc...  Oh I forgot all religions lead to G-d and all are "equal" and "peaceful" and all have mass terrorist movements?  No....you don't.......ONLY that deprave sandspider cult: ISLAM!

Perhaps if you researched more into your religion and its history you might come around, especially that murderous, rapist savage "prophet" Mohammed.  Do you really believe Islam spread through out the world by "peace" and peaceful missionary work?  That would be as big a lie, if not greater, than the Bolistian Beoble occupying the "West Bank" (which of course does not exist either) 

It is perfectly acceptable to Judge others......  Righteous people deserve blessings.....Charrah deserve .......

Tabari VII:97 - "The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.'"

Bukhari:V1B1N6 - "Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country."

Tabari VIII:38  - "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Perhaps murder, expansionism, rape, intolerance, hatred, lies, deceit must be a cultural thing? Perhaps people can be "born" terrorists?  Perhaps it is a mass chemical imbalance that causes Muslims to flock to Jihad against all free, non Islamic nations and use their billions of oil revenues against every free democracy?  Perhaps it is the pressures from man’s increased emissions of CO2 causing Global Warming that causes Muslims to act this way?  I wonder why “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” and “Mein Kempf”, after 60 years of “progress”, are still the most read literature within the Islamic World to the point of its "teachings" being embedded within Islamic school curriculum...of course....next to the Quraan?  I wonder why there are next to no Muslims speaking out within the Islamic World against Jihad, terrorism, the fabricated "PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi People" and their genocidal goal of "Kill the Jew" and "Destroy Israel"? 

G-d willing Ol-Whitey finally wakes up to the lies they are told by their Socialist/Liberal/Fascist leaders about Islam….  Islam comes from the primitive desert dwellers of Arabia, that is where it should have remained.  Islam is unfit to remain in the civilized world.  It is a totally vulgar primitive molestation of many ideologies and is only comparable Nazism......period, end, full stop.

I know....i'm sorry....

I just can't understand how i believed it was the truth. How everyone i know has so much faith in it. We ALL think we are right. Think we were born specially into the RIGHT and TRUTHFUL religion. Even people who commit dire sins can believe they are going to heaven.
That loyality i had built up inside me, came from somewhere, and i don't want to let go.
I have made an excuse for all the evil things that muslims around the world do. But that in itself is an excuse for me to cover up the truth i suppose.

Marzutra, you quoted from Buhkari and Tabari but who narrated those hadith? Whats the webbie...

I mean, Marzutra, we don't know if we are right or wrong. If we have chosen wisely, controlled our actions.......we can only find out in the after-life. IF there even is such a thing! I know it sounds crazy..and it is. But we believe in things we cannot see and thats the enormity and powerfulness of it all!
You cannot just lead a life where you say to yourself, you'll be righteous. For every prayer i miss, a little voice at the back of my head tells me ........thats one level deeper in gehonim.

[Fruit of thy loins]

FFS Sarah.  Are you a Muslim or aren't you?   

[ftfl]

FOTL: It's hard when you realise something that you've believed in for a long time is wrong, just leave her alone.

[Fruit of thy loins]

FOTL: It's hard when you realise something that you've believed in for a long time is wrong, just leave her alone.

She doesn't believe that Islam is wrong.  She is completely morally relative about it, justifying it on occasion. 

[MarZutra]

You are right we all do believe to be correct, but logic and morality have to take place here some place no?  Is it logic and moral to murder children, rape women, stab people and cut off their heads in the name of G-d and quoting passages within the bible?  The answer is no?  These people are either evil or the faith itself is evil.  The fact that the Quraan sanctions, demands war against and submission of the infidel until the entire world is dar Al Islam dictates to me that there is no tolerance whatsoever, no free will, just followers for an entire world under Dar Al Islam ruled by some tyrant. 

The principals of Judaism demands only Israel be Jewish not the World and Jews lead a moral life: "Love they neighbor as thyself....that is Torah...go learn it"- Hillel the elder.  The fact that there would be no such thing as ethical-morality or one sole G-d if Moses hadn't given the Torah to the Jews at Mt. Sinai dictates something especially when I know of no Jewish Terrorist groups that are out blowing themselves up, highjacking plains, bombing trains, murdering school children, massacring families and raping innocent women all in the name of their religion/G-d...

Logic must appear some place no?  It wasn't Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism that allowed virtually the entire planet, with exception to the Muslim world, to be a police state with massive amounts of dollars to be spent on searching people for bombs etc.?  If Islam was truly a religion of peace would you expect infidels/kufar to have the same freedoms and rights you yourself now have in Dar al Harb/Britain afforded to them in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Iraq etc. etc.?  Where are the Muslims to speak on behalf of the Kuffar who would like to visit Mecca?  Perhaps build a sea side cottage on the beautiful coast of Yemen?  Where is the Churches or Synagogues in Arabia?   They'd get their heads cut off and their houses of worship destroyed or desecrated into mosques or garbage dumps like the Holy Western Wall and all the Jewish Holy places had been for 1400 years and most especially between 1948-1967 under Jordanian rule.  Is that "peaceful"?  Is that "tolerant"? 

What a sick, vile, disgusting faith..... 

Qur'an 9:71     "O Prophet, strive hard [fight] against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be harsh with them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed."
Qur'an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur'an 5:51    "Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends."
Qur'an 8:12     "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes."

[Sarah]

I've got the Quran right here in front of me and i'll post what the "written"-in a book version- says:

Qur'an 9:71     "O Prophet, strive hard [fight] against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be harsh with them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed."

"The believers, men and women, are Auliya(helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another; they enjoin on the people Al-Maruf(Islamic monotheism) and forbid people from polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, they perform as-salat and give charity and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will have his mercy on them. Surely Allah is mighty All-Wise"9:71

I'm not sure where you got yours from. If its the internet, then i suggest checking it out in the Quran itself, there could be anything out there.

Qur'an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Read the Story. You decontextualised it. But it is referring to a time at war at when you quoted it, yours said "disbelievers", when in fact it says MUSHRIKUN, which means Idolaters and referred to the Arabians who worshipped Idols, not the Kitabi, like yourself who believe in the book.

Qur'an 5:51    "Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends."[quote/]

Yep this ayah is pretty much precisely what it says infront of me. Except it goes onto say "....and if any amongst you takes them as friends, then surely he is one of the."

Qur'an 8:12     "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.

Here it says, quite the same but yours is worded a lot differently:
" Remember when your Lord revealed to the angels, "Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes,"

Yes, this is advocating a lot of violence.

You, the jews and Christians are considered Believers of the Book.

FFS Sarah.  Are you a Muslim or aren't you?

Whats FFS?

She doesn't believe that Islam is wrong

Its nice to know that you think you can announce what i believe and don't believe.

[Fruit of thy loins]

Its nice to know that you think you can announce what i believe and don't believe.

You're doing a fine job of announcing your love for the 'Holy Koran' without any of my intervention.    I remember when you were saying here on the forum that you were a lost soul, that you had really dropped Islam and that you were looking for friends and spiritual support.  Now I recognize that you are just a shyster trying, for some insane reason, to reconcile gentiles to Islam on a Jewish website.

Now off you go and destroy Britain and make life hell for the Kuffar, that's what Tony Blair let you in for. 

[MarZutra]

Good day Sarah,  The Qur'an quotations are comprised of the five most universally recognized Muslim translations: Ahmed Ali (the most contemporary), Pickthal, Yusuf Ali, Shakir, and the Noble Qur'an by Khan (the most literal, the most prevalent in mosques, and the most often quoted in the book). All five translations are available in parallel here: http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes.Islam. 

I suppose I could have went to: http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/Surai.htm which displays similar quotes but has some which are "progressive" and some ideally accurate and word for word with those from above.  Well 2 out of 4 in accuracy aren't bad considering...

The fact is that Islam decrees war with the Infidel nations until the entire Earth is Dar al-Islam...  How do you think Islam spread?  The Muslims blame the British, Americans and most of all the Israelis as "Imperialists".  Should that be the case the Muslims should all give up their dozens of nations and return to the sands of Arabia, considering every other nation today that is Islamic was taken by Imperialism and conquest. 

Why is it that one doesn't see Christians, Jews or any other out massacring children or committing acts of terrorism or using their lobby groups to destroy other cultures here in the free West?  The Lebanon, the massacres against the Muslims, which were blamed on the Jews, was actually the Lebanese Christians taking their rightful revenge on all those evil Islamic savages that had rolled in from Syria raping, murdering robbing the once Christian population......  This is the deprave culture of Islam and the religion of Islam at work.  I suggest you move back to Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen or any of those [censored] holes and see what real Islamic culture is like....  That is enough for anyone to leave the "religion of peace"...

Quraan 9:29. "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Quraan 4:157. "That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-"

[Sarah]

Marzutra, God is God right. I mean whatever religion you believe in as long as you are praying to The Almighty, its still the same God?

Judaism has its own book and set of laws doesn't it. Who compiled it? Do they all refer and come from the analysation of the Torah?

[azrom]

Muslims pray to a pagan moon god.

[Sarah]

Chaim said Allah is just God in Arabic. The God you believe in. The religion is the difference but not the monotheistic beliefs.