Author Topic: Dear Serbian members (Read 9297 times)

AsheDina · « **on:** May 31, 2009, 07:43:03 AM »

Some of you dont know me, and some do. I know that many dont like me, and they had good reason. I never really knew what Clinton the BUTCHER was doing to Serbians until this past weekend. I must give you my most heart-felt apologies for what our debaucherous, filthy disgusting President thug did to Serbia when he was OCCUPYING the W.H. I AM SORRY, please accept this apology.
Chaim Ben Pesach told me last night that the Serbs are some of the most heroic people, and I agree. I support you, Chaim supports you and David Ben Moshe loves you.
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Indeed our govt is the total pits, and our govt now hates its own people. I know now what happened from America to your people, and I am very sorry for any pain that I have caused the Serbian members here. I am deeply sorry.

I have always been a patriotic American. When others talked about my country, I was indignant and harsh, b/c I USED to believe that we had the best country in the world. We dont anymore, and because of the things we did in Serbia, we are being punished. Because of the things that CLINTON the BUTCHER ALLOWED, we are being judged. Because of the way we are dealing with itty bitty Israel, and how we have bullied them, God, indeed is judging us.
But, you need to know one thing: I am with you. Since I am with you, you have a fighter with you.

Below is an old photo. At one time, we cared:

I found this on google images, it is on an enemy site, the funny part is that the Jewish people in NY, vvery much care about Serbia. I hope this will ease a little pain today.

syyuge · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2009, 10:33:15 AM »

How much sincere and heart touching.

Long live the solidarity of Jewish and Serbia.

Jasmina · « **Reply #2 on:** May 31, 2009, 03:10:05 PM »

Thank you AsheDina!!! We are in all this together, you and I and all of us! We believe in TRUTH!!!

Ultra Requete · « **Reply #3 on:** May 31, 2009, 03:38:10 PM »

It's hard to breake the Media conditioning I know; I was beliving in Croat/Bosniak/Albanian proppagand as well; BTW Do anybody see this too that Israel is begining to be demonised in western medias like Serbs were in nighties?

Jasmina · « **Reply #4 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:14:22 PM »

Quote from: Ultra Requete on May 31, 2009, 03:38:10 PM

It's hard to breake the Media conditioning I know; I was beliving in Croat/Bosniak/Albanian proppagand as well; BTW Do anybody see this too that Israel is begining to be demonised in western medias like Serbs were in nighties?

Yes, today I saw a report about some Muslim Women histerically crying for their killed husbands...If it wasn't antiIsrael, sure it was PRO MUSLIMS propaganda! I've changed the channel immediately!

sonja_yu · « **Reply #5 on:** May 31, 2009, 04:47:47 PM »

What exactly were you saying to the members before?

Lisa · « **Reply #6 on:** May 31, 2009, 08:44:19 PM »

Israel has always been demonized in the media, both in the US and abroad.

Serbian Canadian · « **Reply #7 on:** May 31, 2009, 11:39:56 PM »

Quote from: AsheDina on May 31, 2009, 07:43:03 AM

Some of you dont know me, and some do. I know that many dont like me, and they had good reason. I never really knew what Clinton the BUTCHER was doing to Serbians until this past weekend.

Why have the Serbian members not liked you in the past? How come you didn't know what Clinton did?

Anyways, thank you for your warm thoughts. But I hope you understand why a lot of Serbs are angry and have anti-U.S. sentiments.

We were an ally of the U.S. in WWI. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9406E4D8143EE433A25754C2A9619C946996D6CF

We were an ally of the U.S. in WWII. Serbian chetniks saved the lives of over 400 American soldiers. http://balkansnet.org/draza.html

And what do we get in return? We get bombed for 78 days and on top of that we get to have our homeland (Kosovo) taken away from us and given to a bunch of filthy barbaric Albanians. Getting stabbed in the back like that really hurts.

We've always looked up to the United States. We've tried to instill American values into our society. It's why we've been so loyal and so desperate for U.S. support. I know Milosevic was a madman but what the Americans and the West did to us in the 90's was uncalled for. It still hurts.

4International · « **Reply #8 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:13:36 AM »

Quote from: Serbian Canadian on May 31, 2009, 11:39:56 PM

Quote from: AsheDina on May 31, 2009, 07:43:03 AM
Some of you dont know me, and some do. I know that many dont like me, and they had good reason. I never really knew what Clinton the BUTCHER was doing to Serbians until this past weekend.

Why have the Serbian members not liked you in the past? How come you didn't know what Clinton did?

Anyways, thank you for your warm thoughts. But I hope you understand why a lot of Serbs are angry and have anti-U.S. sentiments.

We were an ally of the U.S. in WWI. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9406E4D8143EE433A25754C2A9619C946996D6CF

We were an ally of the U.S. in WWII. Serbian chetniks saved the lives of over 400 American soldiers. http://balkansnet.org/draza.html

And what do we get in return? We get bombed for 78 days and on top of that we get to have our homeland (Kosovo) taken away from us and given to a bunch of filthy barbaric Albanians. Getting stabbed in the back like that really hurts.

We've always looked up to the United States. We've tried to instill American values into our society. It's why we've been so loyal and so desperate for U.S. support. I know Milosevic was a madman but what the Americans and the West did to us in the 90's was uncalled for. It still hurts.

Shalom brother Serbian Canadian,

actually it wasn't 400 soldiers per se but over 500 American flyers and pilots. Yet another remarkable act of incredible heroism and self-sacrifice on the part of our Serbian brothers and sisters during World War 2 on behalf of Allied forces.

As to your second point, it was NOT Milosevic who was a "mad man" during the 1990's but Bill Clinton and the NATO/EU leaders who were utterly evil [or if you prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt, completely insane] for backing a muslim Nazi terrorist group - the Albanian KLA - and for deliberately bombing Serbian civilian infrastructure for 3 months resulting in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilian Serbian men, women and children.

If anything, Slobodan Milosevic - who was an atheist and leftist social democrat - proved to be too weak and soft towards the vicious, genocidal Nazi enemies of the Serbs: the Ustasha Croats and the Albanian and Bosnian Muslim Nazis who wanted to repeat what they did during the 1941 to 1945 Holocaust in Yugoslavia when they slaughtered over 1.2 Million Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia alone.

4International · « **Reply #9 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:59:24 AM »

Incidentally, when I say that the late President Slobodan Milosevic was an "atheist and leftist social democrat" I do not mean that in a pejorative manner the way we JTF'ers decsribe the Israeli Leftist Bolshevik establishment who constantly bend over backwards to appease the Arab Muslim Nazis - nor do I mean to imply that President Milosevic - who despite all of his weaknesses and betrayal of the Krajina Serbs, as well as the Republic of Srpska and Kosovo-Metohija Serbs - was anything like the hideous pro-Muslim Nazi Israeli establishment or that of the Barack Hussein Obama administration.

There is a world of difference between the above pro-muslim traitors and the late President Slobodan Milosevic - who despite his atheism and socialist economic beliefs - decided that he could no longer tolerate the Kristallnacht Nazi-like pogroms of the pro-Ustasha Franjo Tudjman regime in Croatia, the Islamofascist Muslim Nazi regime of Alija Izetbegovic in Bosnia as well as the decades-long injustices of ethnic cleansing and attempted genocide of the Serbian people in Kosovo-Metohija imposed by the Croat Bolshevik Communist dictator Josip Broz Tito.

PS: President Milosevic was murdered in the "ICTY" kangaroo court in The Hague, Netherlands by NATO intelligence operatives in March 2006 after well over 4 years of his sham "trial" failed to produce a shred of evidence of war crimes.

See the excellent article exposing his murder by NATO:

The Murder of Slobodan Milosevic by Peter Robert North

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2542

AsheDina · « **Reply #10 on:** June 01, 2009, 09:15:09 AM »

Quote from: sonja_yu on May 31, 2009, 04:47:47 PM

What exactly were you saying to the members before?

Sonja, I was CLUELESS. I was sticking up for my country, and I wasnt thinking that our Serbian members had been so hurt by America under the thug Clinton. Indeed I HATED CLINTON with a PASSION. I was just ignorant as to what America was doing over there, too busy at home at that time, trying to face my own city council.

sonja_yu · « **Reply #11 on:** June 03, 2009, 06:30:34 PM »

Quote from: AsheDina on June 01, 2009, 09:15:09 AM

Quote from: sonja_yu on May 31, 2009, 04:47:47 PM
What exactly were you saying to the members before?

Sonja, I was CLUELESS. I was sticking up for my country, and I wasnt thinking that our Serbian members had been so hurt by America under the thug Clinton. Indeed I HATED CLINTON with a PASSION. I was just ignorant as to what America was doing over there, too busy at home at that time, trying to face my own city council.

I understand you and I'm thankful, but still, I am curious what disputes did you have with Serb members so they hated you, what you thought before and what made you change your mind.
Too much curiosity, I know.......

americankahanist · « **Reply #12 on:** June 04, 2009, 08:51:08 AM »

Quote from: sonja_yu on June 03, 2009, 06:30:34 PM

Quote from: AsheDina on June 01, 2009, 09:15:09 AM
Quote from: sonja_yu on May 31, 2009, 04:47:47 PM
What exactly were you saying to the members before?

Sonja, I was CLUELESS. I was sticking up for my country, and I wasnt thinking that our Serbian members had been so hurt by America under the thug Clinton. Indeed I HATED CLINTON with a PASSION. I was just ignorant as to what America was doing over there, too busy at home at that time, trying to face my own city council.

I understand you and I'm thankful, but still, I am curious what disputes did you have with Serb members so they hated you, what you thought before and what made you change your mind.
Too much curiosity, I know.......

She apologized. This is enough. AsheDina has a good heart, and means what she says.

Jasmina · « **Reply #13 on:** June 04, 2009, 01:03:10 PM »

The subject was closed long time ago....

AsheDina is very nice and decent woman, G-d bless her and her family!

SerbChicago · « **Reply #14 on:** June 08, 2009, 01:48:42 AM »

That was really hart touching.Thank you and big thanks to Mr.Chaim!

Srdjan97 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 15, 2009, 08:37:49 PM »

I saw one of your posts before and got so angry, that I can't even describe with words. At that time, I wrote something, can't remember what but it was pretty bad. Luckily, admin deleted it. Now, I'm glad it was deleted and happy cause I have one more patriotic friend. You should stick to your country no matter what but if you'd like to be righteous as much as patriotic, make sure you know the details. Unfortunately, moral is the lost word in 21st century and we can all be fooled with media or what ever. Glad to have you on the right side!

AsheDina · « **Reply #16 on:** June 16, 2009, 02:43:42 PM »

I AM sorry.

Jakov · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2009, 08:30:26 PM »

If you slap me, then say you are sorry, its ok.
If you slap me, then say you are sorry, in the meantime working behind my back convincing others to slap me, then, then you are spitting me.

(you are not the president)

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:08:44 PM »

Quote from: Jakov on June 21, 2009, 08:30:26 PM

If you slap me, then say you are sorry, its ok.
If you slap me, then say you are sorry, in the meantime working behind my back convincing others to slap me, then, then you are spitting me.

(you are not the president)

What the hell are you talking about

Americanhero1 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:11:54 PM »

Serbian Canadian · « **Reply #20 on:** June 21, 2009, 11:54:16 PM »

Quote from: Jakov on June 21, 2009, 08:30:26 PM

If you slap me, then say you are sorry, its ok.
If you slap me, then say you are sorry, in the meantime working behind my back convincing others to slap me, then, then you are spitting me.

(you are not the president)

I think she was confused about the whole situation. As a patriotic American, I assume that she probably couldn't tolerate the U.S. bashing that was going on. Maybe now she realizes that the Serbs on here had good reasons for saying whatever they were saying.

AsheDina · « **Reply #21 on:** June 23, 2009, 12:10:38 PM »

Quote from: Americanhero on June 21, 2009, 11:11:54 PM

AsheDina · « **Reply #22 on:** June 23, 2009, 12:12:02 PM »

Quote from: Jakov on June 21, 2009, 08:30:26 PM

If you slap me, then say you are sorry, its ok.
If you slap me, then say you are sorry, in the meantime working behind my back convincing others to slap me, then, then you are spitting me.

(you are not the president)

Jakov, my word is pretty much my bond. If G-d has forgiven me and accepts my repentance, then I am no longer guilty.

AsheDina · « **Reply #23 on:** June 23, 2009, 12:12:41 PM »

Quote from: Serbian Canadian on June 21, 2009, 11:54:16 PM

Quote from: Jakov on June 21, 2009, 08:30:26 PM
If you slap me, then say you are sorry, its ok.
If you slap me, then say you are sorry, in the meantime working behind my back convincing others to slap me, then, then you are spitting me.

(you are not the president)

I think she was confused about the whole situation. As a patriotic American, I assume that she probably couldn't tolerate the U.S. bashing that was going on. Maybe now she realizes that the Serbs on here had good reasons for saying whatever they were saying.

Yes, you said it best. I did what I believed was right, and apologized and repented.

4International · « **Reply #24 on:** June 23, 2009, 12:28:58 PM »

Quote from: AsheDina on June 23, 2009, 12:12:41 PM

Quote from: Serbian Canadian on June 21, 2009, 11:54:16 PM
Quote from: Jakov on June 21, 2009, 08:30:26 PM
If you slap me, then say you are sorry, its ok.
If you slap me, then say you are sorry, in the meantime working behind my back convincing others to slap me, then, then you are spitting me.

(you are not the president)

I think she was confused about the whole situation. As a patriotic American, I assume that she probably couldn't tolerate the U.S. bashing that was going on. Maybe now she realizes that the Serbs on here had good reasons for saying whatever they were saying.

Yes, you said it best. I did what I believed was right, and apologized and repented.

We all feel the same way about the Christian Serbs here as brother Chaim and brother David Ben Moshe does: in other words we admire and respect you as heroes. We are the ONLY United States-based Jewish forum on the internet that is not afraid to tell the truth about the Croat Ustashe Nazis, as well as the Albanian and Bosnian muslim Nazis.

G-d bless you sister AsheDina for ALWAYS being righteous in your attitude. I am sure that everybody here warmly welcomes your apology and repentance as genuine.