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Who is a Jew? - Some insight from Rebbetzen Chana Bracha Siegelbaum
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
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BTW, every other linguist in the world thinks Wexler is an idiot. I just learned that he claims that Yiddish is a central asian language rather than German offshoot.... LOL. Try telling that to people who know and speak the languages Yiddish and German.
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He says Yiddish is a combination between Slavic and German. Doesn't sounds illogical to me.
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No..... HEBREW? LOL. Every other linguist on the planet thinks he's an idiot. Only the Muslims and Jew-haters pretend that they think he's right. And of course they can't demonstrate anything.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
This guy is a troll.
mord:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/14/science/14gene.html?ex=1294894800&en=d17eda8e09ca32a4&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss
yes some Jews speak yiddish a combination of high German and to much lesser degree slavic languages but so what.Jews took on parts of the language where they lived.People in South america who are pure Spainards do not speak catalonin Spanish.Also yiddish has some Heb in it. it's a language it's not Heb most Jews speak Hebrew well.Heb was considered a HOLY LANGUAGE even in ancient times Jews and Israelites used aramiac for common talk.
Harzel:
--- Quote from: Dúnadan on August 12, 2009, 05:43:09 PM ---I don't have time to all of this, I never said Koestler proved it with genes. Answer me please, how's that Kostler literally means "The Khazar" and still is not descended from Khazars?
And you change what I said with the quotes. Quote the entire thing, you're confusing people.
And I never said that there weren't Jews in Europe before the Khazar kingdom, period.
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Jews didn't have family name in the European fashion until, I think, the 18th century. When they did took family names, they were mostly German, Polish, and Russian names (or Hebrew names that were germanized etc.). I don't know how Kostler means Khazar, I think the word for Khazar is... Khazar. But anyway even if it is, this is a name which was given hundreds of years after there were Khazars. And as you can see for yourself Jewish family names have nothing to do with Khazars.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language
From wikipedia, about Yiddish:
"Yiddish (ייִדיש yidish or אידיש idish, literally "Jewish") is a non-territorial High German language of Jewish origin, spoken throughout the world. Unlike other Germanic languages, Yiddish is written with the Hebrew alphabet as opposed to a Latin alphabet.
The language originated in the Ashkenazi culture that developed from about the 10th century in the Rhineland and then spread to central and eastern Europe and eventually to other continents. In the earliest surviving references to it, the language is called לשון־אַשכּנז (loshn-ashkenaz = "language of Ashkenaz") and טײַטש (taytsh, a variant of tiutsch, the contemporary name for the language otherwise spoken in the region of origin, now called Middle High German; compare the modern New High German Deutsch). In common usage, the language is called מאַמע־לשון (mame-loshn, literally "mother tongue"), distinguishing it from biblical Hebrew and Aramaic, which are collectively termed לשון־קודש (loshn-koydesh, "holy tongue"). The term "Yiddish" did not become the most frequently used designation in the literature of the language until the 18th century. "
"For a significant portion of its history, Yiddish was the primary spoken language of the Ashkenazi Jews and once spanned a broad dialect continuum from Western Yiddish to three major groups within Eastern Yiddish. Eastern and Western Yiddish are most markedly distinguished by the extensive inclusion of words of Slavic origin in the Eastern dialects. While Western Yiddish has few remaining speakers, Eastern dialects remain in wide use."
I should point out that most historians place the "development of Ashkenazi culture in the Rhineland" to much earlier than 10th century. This obviously has to be the case as these groups already were there for several hundred years. But perhaps they mean the development to the extent that the yiddish language developed...
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