Who are worse? Commies or Nazis?

[Novakovic]

It depends on who you are.

If you're a Jew the Nazis were worse, if you're White then the communists were worse.

Its undeniable truth that the White population in Western Europe would be better off under the Nazis then communists.

Please now you sound like a maniac my friend. The Nazis intended to exterminate white Slavs; they managed to accomplish the extermination of many Slavs.
Only at the Balkans the Nazis and their followers killed million Orthodox Serbs. During the Nazi invasion of Russia, 27 Russians lost their lives [including women and children]. Nazis are anti-white! Only white fools support Nazis. With this kind of statements you will encourage desperate Whites to join Nazis.

If the Nazis won in 1945 I would probably not be born. At the Balkans, the fascist nations occupied Serbian lands and started to exterminate Serbs, Jews and Gypsies.  

The Nazis must be stopped! What ever it takes! They must not succeed!

[AsheDina]

Race is a Darwinist myth that is only used by psuedo-scientific hardcore Atheists and not by Realists.

realy so how you explain the difference between the races? and the fact that you in one look can tell me if this person are from africa or aisa or northern or souther europe? any ideas? no? thank you.

NormalAtheist, why dont you stop bringing dissent? Huh? IF you are a Jew, stop talking like a little SCHMUCK.
TY.

[White Israelite]

Communists, at least Nazis make clear who their enemy is but communists are deceivers and pretend to be everyones friend while using deceptive tactics. I rather know who my enemy is. But to be honest, they are both evil. That's like asking if you'd rather have aids or cancer, both hide their symptoms until it's too late.

What makes communism so dangerous is that people do not associate it in general as evil as the nazis, in many cases, young anarchists are tolerated waving this symbol while still carrying the ideology communism imprinted on society through socialism. When people see a swastika, they know what it means and respond accordingly, not so with communism.

[White Israelite]

His Hebrew really is not understandable.

Ah the wonders of google translate, I am skeptical of this "normal atheist".

[Ben m]

His Hebrew really is not understandable.

Ah the wonders of google translate, I am skeptical of this "normal atheist".

realy,do you want to put my hebrew to test? i will be glad.

[Ben m]

Race is a Darwinist myth that is only used by psuedo-scientific hardcore Atheists and not by Realists.

realy so how you explain the difference between the races? and the fact that you in one look can tell me if this person are from africa or aisa or northern or souther europe? any ideas? no? thank you.

NormalAtheist, why dont you stop bringing dissent? Huh? IF you are a Jew, stop talking like a little SCHMUCK.
TY.

why don't you stop cursing people? remind me what you had done for the jewish people?

[Novakovic]

realy,do you want to put my hebrew to test? i will be glad.

Friend please convince them that you are who you are!

[Dr. Dan]

what if you have a righteous Jew who is racially negroid?  or even properly converted?  You hate him too?

Insane Atheist, what's up with your obsession with Whites?

beacuse every jews (expect ethiopisan and indian jews are part of the white race).also read again the site platform especialy about america.i will sure you will find there some very interesting stuff.

well if he proves to me that he is indeed rightous i will glad to accept him.but first i challenge you to find me one.

If and when that time comes, I would show him to you...NA, you have a lot to learn about Judaism and about JTF.  We are against racism of any kind.  When we speak ill of a people, it's not because of the way they look, but by the way they act.  After having spoken with you many times and reading your numerous posts, you have a strong obsession with race and genetics which have nothing  or very little to do with behavior.  Chaim's post was well written and directed to you specifically.

You had mentioned that you want to turn towards Judaism and need guidance on what is right and wrong.  If you are telling truth and pursuing these things properly, you better listen to what Chaim has to say and understand what this movement is about.  It is one of the most if not the most legitimate movement and most truthful movement out there.  We don't lie and we are consistent.  We rarely if ever contradict ourselves unlike Nazis and Communists and other people.

Ron ben Michael is one of the smartest Israelis and teenagers in this movement and has many views which are very true and important to acknowledge about Judaism.  Some of what he will say might not sound nice or politically correct, but I and Chaim, as well as others on the forum, have a lot of respect for him and you better listen to him too.

well,i already contacted chaim about returning to judaism.about ron.it will be difficult to listen to him after such attacks.he actually sdaid me that i am a kike and pro nazi.that is insane.

Some things you have posted in the past are what Nazis say...such as your claim that the genetics of blacks are inferior to whites...I also know that you want to return to Judaism which is a good thing..so listen to Chaim, even listen to Ron what they have to say...if you keep an open mind, you'll understand that your current views of inferior genes are, in fact, very wrong.

[Ben m]

what if you have a righteous Jew who is racially negroid?  or even properly converted?  You hate him too?

Insane Atheist, what's up with your obsession with Whites?

beacuse every jews (expect ethiopisan and indian jews are part of the white race).also read again the site platform especialy about america.i will sure you will find there some very interesting stuff.

well if he proves to me that he is indeed rightous i will glad to accept him.but first i challenge you to find me one.

If and when that time comes, I would show him to you...NA, you have a lot to learn about Judaism and about JTF.  We are against racism of any kind.  When we speak ill of a people, it's not because of the way they look, but by the way they act.  After having spoken with you many times and reading your numerous posts, you have a strong obsession with race and genetics which have nothing  or very little to do with behavior.  Chaim's post was well written and directed to you specifically.

You had mentioned that you want to turn towards Judaism and need guidance on what is right and wrong.  If you are telling truth and pursuing these things properly, you better listen to what Chaim has to say and understand what this movement is about.  It is one of the most if not the most legitimate movement and most truthful movement out there.  We don't lie and we are consistent.  We rarely if ever contradict ourselves unlike Nazis and Communists and other people.

Ron ben Michael is one of the smartest Israelis and teenagers in this movement and has many views which are very true and important to acknowledge about Judaism.  Some of what he will say might not sound nice or politically correct, but I and Chaim, as well as others on the forum, have a lot of respect for him and you better listen to him too.

well,i already contacted chaim about returning to judaism.about ron.it will be difficult to listen to him after such attacks.he actually sdaid me that i am a kike and pro nazi.that is insane.

Some things you have posted in the past are what Nazis say...such as your claim that the genetics of blacks are inferior to whites...I also know that you want to return to Judaism which is a good thing..so listen to Chaim, even listen to Ron what they have to say...if you keep an open mind, you'll understand that your current views of inferior genes are, in fact, very wrong.

i am keeping my mind but what ron is saying give me such a rage that i can't even write like a human being.i don't think i need to listen to a person that didn't said anythink expect attacking me personally and attacking the west.

[AsheDina]

Race is a Darwinist myth that is only used by psuedo-scientific hardcore Atheists and not by Realists.

realy so how you explain the difference between the races? and the fact that you in one look can tell me if this person are from africa or aisa or northern or souther europe? any ideas? no? thank you.

NormalAtheist, why dont you stop bringing dissent? Huh? IF you are a Jew, stop talking like a little SCHMUCK.
TY.

why don't you stop cursing people? remind me what you had done for the jewish people?

NO, what have YOU done? I think you are a little pompus ass. Ron Ben Michel is a heroic person and you attacked him, and I AM SICK OF IT, SO SHUT UP

[Novakovic]

Normal atheist is only 16 and I think that we must give him a chance.. I think that he is cool! Maybe he will also become one day a hero? We must not make it hard for him..

[AsheDina]

Normal atheist is only 16 and I think that we must give him a chance.. I think that he is cool! Maybe he will also become one day a hero? We must not make it hard for him..

Then let him stop dumping on people that HAVE been an essential part of this movement, especially the Hebrew movement.

[Serbian Canadian]

Communism has killed far more people than Nazism. If you go by the number of deaths, communism is much worse. Stalin, Zedong, Tito, Pot, Sung, etc... were all monsters. Of course the difference is that Nazism as an ideology has been outlawed whereas communism, despite the fact that it has been attacked by the West and fervently opposed by many, continues to be a practicable and accepted ideology in some countries.

[muman613]

Also, there are many non-White Jews. I'd rather have all non-Jewish Whites eliminated than a non-White Jew's finger nail falling.

admins,do you paying any attention to this kind of racist posts?

I stand with Ron Ben Michael on this one... Jews are who I care about in this question, not the White non-Jews or anything else... Jews must be the 1st priority of a Jew, especially when we are so very small a minority..

Normal atheist must have a lot a chutzpah to accuse others of racism...

I think Normal Atheist is a schmuck and has a lot of growing up to do before I ever consider this scumbag on my side...

I would not trust NA as far as I can spit...

PS:  Even if NA was born Jewish he has forsaken his birthright. He is not with the Jews, he is fighting against the non-Whites, and this seems to be his attraction to JTF, not Jewish Nationalism...

[Novakovic]

Communism has killed far more people than Nazism. If you go by the number of deaths, communism is much worse. Stalin, Zedong, Tito, Pot, Sung, etc... were all monsters.

That is because Nazism did not have much time to accomplish their goals.
The Nazis started with exterminating in 1940 and were defeated in 1945. The communists were active in Russia since 1917.  

Of course the difference is that Nazism as an ideology has been outlawed whereas communism, despite the fact that it has been attacked by the West and fervently opposed by many, continues to be a practicable and accepted ideology in some countries.

Well the West invented communism. Communism arrived from the West to Moscow. And from Moscow communism was spread  also to us at the Balkans!

[muman613]

His Hebrew really is not understandable.

Ah the wonders of google translate, I am skeptical of this "normal atheist".

realy,do you want to put my hebrew to test? i will be glad.

As if any schmuck who can talk Hebrew is a mensch... Riiiight!... I bet even his hebrew is terrible if all he talks is hatred and not a single word of Torah... Human garbage...

[briann]

You're not Jewish. You belong to the West, not the Jewish people.

Pathetic.  

[briann]

I have a suggestion here. 

I, along with most of you, agree that Normal Athiest may not belong in this forum;

BUT

Some of the comments made by a couple members here can drive away some of our core supporters.  Yes, I agree that Jews should support Jews above all else.  But when you make comments about preferring white non-jews to die, there are a lot of good people on this forum who will take this the wrong way.  Again, I know what Ron is saying, but his I wish this rhetoric was never used; and it will potentially drive away some very supportive members here.

[Novakovic]

Indeed brain. It can chase away the good Whites or prevent potential members from joing the movement...
 

[Skkie]

Actually I think the discussion was fairly enlightening. I fully expect Jews to be loyal to Jews above all else and I would hope White Gentiles would do the same. While mutual cooperation should be advocated for when possible that does not mean our goals are the same or that we will consider each other of equal worth.

Look out for yourself as no one else is going to.

[Ulli]

Both end results; DEATH to Jews and Christians.

not exactly.nazism supported positive christianity wich perosnally sickens me but we could under that cicumstances hide and fight back.under communism all of us would just got killed slowly in some gulag in siberia.

"Positive Christians" or "German Christians" call themselve Christians, but would never be able to be part of my assembly. The elders and the other brethren inclusive me would ban them in the minute they open their mouths to spread their heresy. We would rather die than to accept that they insult and belittle the word.

We are not able to practice tarquia.
 

[muman613]

Im sorry that what I said gives that appearence... Those who know me know that I believe that all of mankind has a mission in the world and all humans have the potential to be righteous and have a place in the world to come. But I also believe that the Jewish people have a special mission in this world and that we should have Jewish Unity as we did at the foot of Mount Sinai when we received the ten commandments.

Anyone who needs help I will help, anyone who wants knowledge I will teach...

[Serbian Canadian]

I think that there should be a very good reason to ban someone. Trolls and Nazis are examples of people who should automatically be banned. Now, people like normal atheist who agree with JTF's views but have different opinions should be given a chance. He's only 16 and he's Jewish so I believe that we should try to convince him that some of his convictions are wrong and teach him better. I have to say, this forum needs more lively debates. Sometimes we need people with opposing views in order to argue with them. Isn't that the whole point of having a forum? Debating people with opposing views in a respectful and civil manner. Now if they can't debate in a respectful and civil manner then they should be given the boot. In my case, I know I'd love to debate Croats, Albanian and Bosnian Muslims on this forum (assuming they are literate, sane and civil), it makes the forum more interesting.

[AsheDina]

I think that there should be a very good reason to ban someone. Trolls and Nazis are examples of people who should automatically be banned. Now, people like normal atheist who agree with JTF's views but have different opinions should be given a chance. He's only 16 and he's Jewish so I believe that we should try to convince him that some of his convictions are wrong and teach him better. I have to say, this forum needs more lively debates. Sometimes we need people with opposing views in order to argue with them. Isn't that the whole point of having a forum? Debating people with opposing views in a respectful and civil manner. Now if they can't debate in a respectful and civil manner then they should be given the boot. In my case, I know I'd love to debate Croats, Albanian and Bosnian Muslims on this forum (assuming they are literate, sane and civil), it makes the forum more interesting.

I agree Serb and Briann---banning? I dont do it, I just give these people a dose of what THEY put out.

[AsheDina]

realy,do you want to put my hebrew to test? i will be glad.

Friend please convince them that you are who you are!

Nova, I dont 'dis-believe' he is a Jew, anyone that says that they are a Jew on a Jewish forum IS. We are not the most popular people.
But this kid is what? 16? He needs to learn some respect is all.