Iran outranks dumb Jews for 15th year in a row in math

[Garro]

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israeli-kids-plummet-to-53rd-place-in-international-mathematical-olympiad-1.302708

Israeli kids plummet to 53rd place in International Mathematical Olympiad

The five Israeli competitors came home from the competition in Kazakhstan last week with one silver medal, one bronze and two honorable mentions.

The Israeli delegation to the 2010 International Mathematical Olympiad, the world mathematics championship for high school students, placed 53rd among the 96 participating delegations.

The five Israeli competitors came home from the competition in Kazakhstan last week with one silver medal, one bronze and two honorable mentions.

A total of 517 high-school students took part this year.
Math olympiad    

The international Mathematical Olympiad, 2006
Photo by: George Paul Csicsery

Taking first place, respectively, were competitors from China, Russia and the United States.

The IMO is considered the largest, most difficult and most prestigious event of its kind, and has drawn teams from 100 different countries in recent years. Participants compete against each other as individuals, not as teams, although each country's results are also calculated.

Israel has competed every year since 1979, with the exception of two years during the 1980s when it was not invited. Israel's best result was in 2000, when it reached 11th place.

Israel's standing has been steadily slipping over the past decade, from 18th in 2002 to its current spot after Slovenia and Sri Lanka, which share 51st place, and before the 54th-ranked Malaysia.

Ahead of Israel in the ratings, in addition to the top-ranked United States, South Korea, Kazakhstan, Thailand, Japan, Turkey and Serbia, are Iran, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Mongolia.

On each day of the two-day affair, contestants are given four and a half hours to solve three complex math problems. The answers are checked over the following two days by a panel of judges.

"The problems are on a higher level than what is taught in Israel, the kind that challenge the students," Rom Dudkiewicz, an 11th grader at Ramat Gan's Blich High School and Israel's bronze medal winner, said yesterday.

Prof. Shay Gueron, from the Mathematics Department of the University of Haifa, has headed the Israeli delegation for 17 years, selecting its members and readying them for competition. The first round of selection, which is open to all, had 1,600 hopefuls from around the country. The top achievers in statewide contests are invited to attend training camps and workshops. They are given study material and submit work in order to vie for a spot on the team.

Last year's delegation had six members, but as Gueron explained, this year he was unable "to find a sixth participant at a high enough level."

Mathematics instruction in Israeli schools is at a low level and is getting worse, he said.

"Even the most talented students, the kind who stand out in the national competitions, lack basic knowledge and proper work habits, not to mention training or experience with advanced material," Gueron said. "Over the years, I see that students come to the national competitions with less and less knowledge, and there are elementary topics that were once part of the math curriculum and are no longer taught at all."

Gueron said Israeli students, unlike their counterparts abroad, don't have tangible incentives that could motivate them to make the sustained effort necessary to win the math olympiad.

"Israel's results in the olympiad are only a reflection of the cultural and educational situation in Israel and the way it is expressed among the youth," Gueron said.

The Education Ministry declined to comment.

Nation Rank

People's Republic of China 1
Russian Federation 2
United States of America 3
Republic of Korea 4
Kazakhstan 5
Thailand 5
Japan 7
Turkey 8
Germany 9
Serbia 10
Vietnam 11
Italy 11
Canada 13
Hungary 13
Australia 15
Romania 16
Islamic Republic of Iran 16
Peru 16
Taiwan 19
Hong Kong 20
Bulgaria 21
Ukraine 22
Singapore 22
Poland 24
United Kingdom 25
Uzbekistan 26
Belarus 27
Azerbaijan 28
New Zealand 29
France 30
Indonesia 30
Croatia 32
Mexico 33
Georgia 34
Brazil 6 35
India 6 36
Greece 37
Netherlands 38
Lithuania 39
Argentina 39
Republic of Moldova 39
Slovakia 39
Switzerland 39
Turkmenistan 44
Denmark 45
Spain 46
Austria 47
Czech Republic 48
Bosnia and Herzegovina 49
Mongolia 50
Sri Lanka 51
Slovenia 51
Israel 53
Malaysia 54
Portugal 54
Tajikistan 56
Latvia 57
South Africa 58
The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia 58
Belgium 60
Armenia 61
Cyprus 62
Kyrgyzstan 63
Estonia 63
Colombia 65
Cambodia 66
Saudi Arabia 67
Morocco 67
Bangladesh 69
Ivory Coast 69
Iceland 71
Sweden 72
Finland 72
Philippines 74
Norway 75
Ecuador 76
Trinidad and Tobago 77
Puerto Rico 78
Panama 79
Costa Rica 79
Luxembourg 81
Tunisia 81
Syria 83
Nigeria 84
Paraguay 85
Cuba 85
El Salvador 87
Honduras 88
Pakistan 89
Ireland 90
Venezuela 91
Guatemala 92
Albania 93
Bolivia 94
Montenegro 95
Kuwait 96

http://www.imo-official.org/year_cou...aspx?year=2010

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

I just wonder if this "national" team is like the Israeli National Team in Football ("the peace them") - mostly Arab 

I just wonder if they're so intelligent why do they live like Sudanese 

Or can't drill their oil by themselves 

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

Oh and hi Ralphie!

How's your momma doing? how do you feel having a half brother from a Jew?

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

Oh yes, this is so true! The Iranian Muslims are much smarter than Israeli Jews. The Iranian Muslims are a nation of Albert Einsteins (oops, bad example).

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

The Iranian Muslims are at least smarter than Ralph, though.

[Aces High]

Were Arabs taking the test along side with Jews in that math test?    Because that would certainly hurt the Jewish ranking

[Aces High]

Were Arabs taking the test along side with Jews in that math test?    Because that would certainly hurt the Jewish ranking

Because if it were only Jews taking the test, it would be considered racist, by the Israeli government.  You know how averages work, if you flunk a test, it's very hard to bring up your average.  The same theory would apply to Arabs taking the test along side Jews, to be computed with the Jewish scores.  The Arab scores would drag down the Jewish scores.  The end result would be a much  lower ranking for Israel.

[Aces High]

I just read the dumb article.  So big deal, 5 highschool kids from Israel ranked 53 rd.   jajajajajaja.  Who cares

[Aces High]

I just read the dumb article.  So big deal, 5 highschool kids from Israel ranked 53 rd.   jajajajajaja.  Who cares

Take a large sampling of Jews VS. Iranians or Jews VS. Arabs, and see what happens then!

[syyuge]

Must be a Zionist conspiracy.

Saying goes that before Quiyamat the muslamics will appear to be more mathematically intelligent than the Jews and the fools will outsmart the wise.
 

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

Who here thinks Obama  would do better then  Iran???

[Aces High]

Or better yet, go above the highschool level, (with a large sample) and pit Jews against any opponent, in science or math, we'll definitely outscore the bulk of them.   Like taking candy from a baby.

[Steinway]

Were Arabs taking the test along side with Jews in that math test?    Because that would certainly hurt the Jewish ranking

No, they were all Jews:

Rom Dudkiewicz
Inbar Klang
Ohad Nir
Shay Sapir
Konstantin Zabarnyi

[Steinway]

Or better yet, go above the highschool level, (with a large sample) and pit Jews against any opponent, in science or math, we'll definitely outscore the bulk of them.   Like taking candy from a baby.

 

From the international mathematics competition for university students in 2009:

IMC2009 Final Scores - Teams' Contest page 1/2
University Best 3 + average
1 Kyiv Taras Shevchenko National University 270.75
2 Jagiellonian University 269.75
3 Moscow State University 264.17
4 Loránd Eötvös University 258.23
5 Sharif University of Technology, Tehran 247.40
6 Israeli national team 240.71
7 University of Bonn 235.17
8 St. Petersburg State University 234.80
9 École Polytechnique, Paris 233.78
10 Princeton University 233.12
11 Politehnica Bucuresti 225.22
12 Belarusian State University 223.83
13 Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology 210.71
14 Warsaw University 209.50
15 Masaryk University, Brno 200.00
16 Technical University of Cluj-Napoca 199.50
17 University of Bucharest 194.60
18 Colombian team 184.83
19 Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 184.00
20 Ukrainian team 177.33
21 National University of Athens 177.00
22 Budapest University of Technology and Economics 176.25
23 Yerevan State University 176.25
24 Universidade Federal do Ceará 174.67
25 Belgrade University 174.25
26 Amirkabir University of Technology, Tehran 173.83
27 National Technical University of Athens 171.44
28 Berlin Mathematical School 169.33
29 Cambridge University 165.75
30 Univerza v Ljubljani 165.50
31 Instituto Tecnológcio de Aeronáutica, Sao Paolo 164.80
32 University of Zagreb 162.90
33 Jacobs University, Bremen 156.50
34 Charles University, Prague 150.33
35 University of Helsinki 149.80
36 Instituto Militar de Engenharia, Rio de Janeiro 149.60
37 Helsinki University of Technology 148.50
38 Universitat Politècnica de Catalunya 130.67
39 Georg-August-Universität Göttingen 130.50
40 Utrecht University 123.75
41 Ghent University 122.67
42 Comenius University in Bratislava 121.75
43 University of Michigan 119.60
44 Indonesian team 118.25
45 Angola team 117.33
46 University of Szeged 115.25
47 University of Amsterdam 109.00
48 Shahid Bahonar University, Kerman 105.40
49 Ferdowsi University of Mashhad 104.60
50 Hanoi University of Science 104.00
51 Austrian team 100.00
52 University of Warwick 98.67
53 University of Architecture, Civil Engineering and Geodesy 91.14
54 Universidad Autónoma de Madrid 88.00
IMC2009 Final Scores - Teams' Contest page 2/2
55 Universidad de Zaragoza 86.67
56 University of Tartu 82.67
57 Universitat de València 80.25
58 University of Isfahan 78.80
59 Mongolian University of Science and Technology 65.33
60 National University of Mongolia 65.33
61 Universidad Complutense de Madrid 56.00
62 University of Cyprus 42.67
63 Isfahan University of Technology 42.40
64 Pontificia Comillas de Madrid 26.25
65 Fed. Univ. of Tech. Owerri, Nigeria 6.67

http://www.imc-math.org.uk/imc2009/IMC2009-FinalScores-Teams.pdf
http://www.imc-math.org.uk/index.php?year=2009&item=results

[muman613]

Tell us where all these smart Iranians are developing and creating new technologies? There are not many Iranian inventions because most Iranians are dumbed down because of their backwards religion. Meanwhile new technologies and products are being developed daily in Israel and these technologies are being used around the entire world.

Some statistic like this is completely a non-issue. The real measure is what good the Israelis and Jews are doing with their smarts. The only smart Iranians are Jewish Iranians of whom I know several Iranian doctors... But this poster seems obviously swayed by propaganda which doesns't match reality.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Tell us where all these smart Iranians are developing and creating new technologies?

Careful Muman, you might shatter this scumbag's dreams about Iran's "peaceful intentions" if you start bringing up their nuclear innovations...   Best we shouldn't talk about that, eh ralph?   Then again, they are just stealing the technology from others like AQ Khan and the North Koreans.   Without those tutors, they never would have dreamed of a bomb.

[Steinway]

Tell us where all these smart Iranians are developing and creating new technologies?

All of that is changing. Iran does has not invest in research and development until very recently. No nation no matter how smart their people will invent anything if the government controls major industries and buy's technology with oil rather than invest in R&D. Ever since they've been investing they have been making rapid progress. I can show you studies where the brightest Iranians consistently beat Israel every year in chemistry, physics, computer science, math, both at high school level and college. That proves they have potential.

"Iran is an example of a country that has made considerable advances through education and training, despite international sanctions in almost all aspects of research during the past 30 years. Iran's university population swelled from 100,000 in 1979 to 2 million in 2006. Seventy percent of its science and engineering students are women.[5]  Iran's scientific progress is reported to be one of the fastest in the world.[6]  Iran has made great strides in different sectors, including aerospace, nuclear science, medical development, as well as stem cell and cloning research.[6]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Iran

The only smart Iranians are Jewish Iranians of whom I know several Iranian doctors

You're a jealous liar. You only go to Jewish doctors so you wouldn't know if non-Jewish Iranians are doctors or not yet you lie that they're dumb. According to the American community survey of 2008 29% of Iranians have a graduate or professional degree whereas 27.3% of Israelis have a graduate or professional degree. The per capita income of Iranians is $40,161 but the per capita income of Israelis is 38,726. Iranians are more wealthy and more educated than Israelis. You can't claim that Iranian Jews are bringing up the average for Iranians because I'm comparing Iranians to Israelis. Most Iranians in America are non-Jewish while most Israeli Americans are Jewish. It is actually the Jews that are lowering the income and education levels of Iranians.

Keep smoking that dope. No wonder you refuse to read or accept statistics that keep proving you wrong.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Yes, I hear that Iranians are on the fast track to developing toilets and indoor plumbing.   Please give credit where credit is due.

[Steinway]

בס''ד

Oh yes, this is so true! The Iranian Muslims are much smarter than Israeli Jews. The Iranian Muslims are a nation of Albert Einsteins (oops, bad example).

Albert Einstein was a plagiarist and fraud like most Jewish scientists. The formula E=mc2 was invented by an Italian industrialist named Olinto De Pretto and Einstein stole his discovery and passed it off as his own.

http://www.italiansrus.com/articles/emc2.htm

Einstein also used his Serbian wife to do complex mathematical problem solving because he wasn't smart enough to do it himself. He also plagiarized the works of many other White scientists:

http://www.amazon.com/Albert-Einstein-Incorrigible-Christopher-Bjerknes/dp/0971962987
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_einstein.htm

[JTFenthusiast2]

Now these people "gallo" and "steinway" should be banned.  Why?  Because they don't respond to intelligent query. As such they are just provocateurs who are wasting their, and ours, time.  These two individuals are not persons who are interested in intelligent, reasonable, logical discourse, they only want to waste our energy defaming us.  As such, there is really no point in discussing anything with them.  Indeed, engaging them in argument only serves the false premise that they in fact have a point.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

Ralph, I admit that you are correct. Jewish scientists are dumb and Iranian Muslim scientists are geniuses. The tiny Jewish people has not contributed to science way out of proportion to their small numbers. The fact that 28% of all Nobel science prices were given to Jews despite the fact that Jews are only 0.2% of the world's population is not breathtaking proof of Jewish brilliance. After all, the Joooos secretly control the Norweigians who award Nobel prizes. All of those prizes should have been given to the real geniuses - the Muslim Nazis.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

בס''ד

Oh yes, this is so true! The Iranian Muslims are much smarter than Israeli Jews. The Iranian Muslims are a nation of Albert Einsteins (oops, bad example).

Albert Einstein was a plagiarist and fraud like most Jewish scientists. The formula E=mc2 was invented by an Italian industrialist named Olinto De Pretto and Einstein stole his discovery and passed it off as his own.

http://www.italiansrus.com/articles/emc2.htm

Einstein also used his Serbian wife to do complex mathematical problem solving because he wasn't smart enough to do it himself. He also plagiarized the works of many other White scientists:

http://www.amazon.com/Albert-Einstein-Incorrigible-Christopher-Bjerknes/dp/0971962987
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_einstein.htm

LOL, yeah and the black 'mad scientist' created the white man in the laboratory too!    Wow you are a real nut.

[Ulli]

Steinway, you are living in a dreamworld.

Of cause there are Iranians who are very smart, but if you take the average of the Jewish people and of the persian ones, there is a huge gap.

Even if you would take the average of reformed Christians (Calvinists) as the elite group among white people, there is a gap.

Nearly all people who have seen this and tried to find reasons for it, blamed the Jews of cheating.

But this is not the reason for it, because if Jews would do this regulary, I don't say that there are a few Jews who do this, nobody would do business with them.

But the opposite is the case. So this can't be the reason for Jewish success.

The reason is, that Jews are very disciplined people. And this discipline schooled by obeying the Jewish law makes them able to succeed, as well as their faible for learning.

It is so poor to blaim Jews of tricks, to excuse your own (Muslim & white supremacist) weakness.

The smart person would admit his mistakes in conduct of life and would try to better. You obviously don't belong to this group.

Get lost.

[JTFenthusiast2]

So why are we still talking to them?  Pulling the plug is the sane thing to do.  Our energies are needed for real things, not cyber, imaginary misfits, who imagine themselves to be intelligent and interesting.  They are ordinary dull and simple.

[TruthSpreader]

Iranian Muslims are smarter than Israeli Jews. Yeah sure.