Iranian Leadership Claims Jews massacred Iranians during the Purim story

[JTFenthusiast2]

No one here believes Gentiles are any different than Jews with the exception of religious beliefs.   You believe A, and I believe B.  DBF, why are you making this into such an issue

[muman613]

I'd like to see Muman explain this post:

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,23763.msg254376.html#msg254376

I dont consider Jews to be white. Traditional Jews are believed to be descended from Semitic races which are most certainly not white like caucasians {whitey }.

What is so hard to understand about this. All Jews who are born into families which have been Jewish for 1000s of years have DNA which traces back to the original Hebrews. This has been proven by modern scientific method.... Ask any Jew who has done a DNA test to determine whether there has been conversion in their family...

But Judaism is not a race. We allow converts, and converts are given the same status as a full fledged Jew... But we all believe we are descended from the forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob...

You have a problem with that?

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I'd like to see Muman explain this post:

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,23763.msg254376.html#msg254376

I dont consider Jews to be white. Traditional Jews are believed to be descended from Semitic races which are most certainly not white like caucasians {whitey }.

I don't consider Jews "white" either.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

KWRBT, you don't know what the real Muman is like, just like you don't know what the real me is like or me the real you. The difference is that you haven't given JTFers good reason to question your credibility online. But it's foolish to just believe all of what any internet figure says, especially if they have been caught in lies. 

I don't consider muman an "internet figure" - he's been pretty open about his identity including a picture of himself, and he has shared some things about his life that I was surprised he'd be so open about.  I really have no reason to believe he's lying about those things.   You, on the other hand, are biased because of your personal dispute with muman, so you tend to assume the worst about him.   I think that's a fruitless endeavor.

Anyone can read chabad.org and copy paragraphs from it. That's all I'm sayin'.

But I never made reference to that regarding Muman.

[Meerkat]

I'd like to see Muman explain this post:

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,23763.msg254376.html#msg254376

I dont consider Jews to be white. Traditional Jews are believed to be descended from Semitic races which are most certainly not white like caucasians {whitey }.

I don't consider Jews "white" either.

count me in. Jews aren't "white"

[muman613]

And maybe I made this post up with copy & paste DBF.... If only you could write more than a paragraph on your own maybe we can talk...

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,35563.0.html

[Zelhar]

According to the book of Esther Jews did massacre their enemies and I wish there would soon be another payback day for the evil Iranians of today.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

As far as I have heard, Yeshu is sort of a universally-accepted Jewish term for Jesus. I don't know what it meant historically but that's how it is used today.

Jews don't have a "Jewish term" for Jesus because he's not relevant to us.   

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

And maybe I made this post up with copy & paste DBF.... If only you could write more than a paragraph on your own maybe we can talk...

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,35563.0.html

That's not an explanation for why you said that Jews "aren't white".

[Raulmarrio2000]

What's the problem if a Jew considers that Jews are not white? Anthrpological races are irrelevant to Judaism. A Jew is someone who descends on an interrupted matrilineal line from a woman who stood at Mt. Sinai at the time the Torah was given, or from a a woman who converted before he was born, or if he, himself, converted. Hebrews are Semite and according to anthropology, Semites are a part of the white race, but a Jew can have any opinion about anthropology. Torah does not command Jews to believe in this or that scientifical idea which is irrelevant to the mitzvot.

[briann]

I agree with Chaim that Jews should NOT be perceived as a race.  Once you do this, it marginalizes our movement, making Judaism appear to be concerned about DNA rather than faith...  and even worse, it feeds to the stupidity of StørmFrønt.

I knew an ethnic Thai lady who converted to Judaism, and I consider her FAR more of a Jew than a self hating piece of crap like George Soros.

By the way, Ive NEVER heard an Ashkenazi Jew not identify themselves as white, but again, who cares.

[Ari Ben-Canaan]

 

[Dr. Dan]

Jews aren't a race .  It's our souls that separate us from other nations.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

By the way, Ive NEVER heard an Ashkenazi Jew not identify themselves as white, but again, who cares.

Well, you have now.  Because I don't identify as white, and I am of Ashkenazi heritage.    Whenever there is "ethnicity" in forms, I fill out "other" or choose not to reveal it.  (Because they never list Jewish as an ethnicity).

[Zelhar]

By the way, Ive NEVER heard an Ashkenazi Jew not identify themselves as white, but again, who cares.

Well, you have now.  Because I don't identify as white, and I am of Ashkenazi heritage.    Whenever there is "ethnicity" in forms, I fill out "other" or choose not to reveal it.  (Because they never list Jewish as an ethnicity).

I'm "pure" ashkenazi but my look is clearly middle-eastern.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Personally identifying as a Jew rather than "white" is one thing. Categorically stating that you don't consider Jews white is a whole different ballgame.

[muman613]

Personally identifying as a Jew rather than "white" is one thing. Categorically stating that you don't consider Jews white is a whole different ballgame.

FBD,

And who made you an expert on Jews? Fool...

[muman613]

Nice job on the hasty edit. Not.

Hasty edit of what? And what does this image have to do with anything? You have obviously photoshopped this image...

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Considering it's not my image, I did not.