The Worldwide Crisis of Islam > The Truth About Islam
High school kid named Osama
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 12, 2007, 12:29:27 AM ---I was once checking the driver's license of a taxi driver and noted that his name was Yaseer Arafat. How do you like that?
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I think i had that same cab driver!
Imerica:
--- Quote from: Scriabin on June 12, 2007, 01:09:19 AM ---
--- Quote from: Imerica on June 12, 2007, 12:57:30 AM ---
What??? and further ???...
First of all, Osama Bin Laden wasn't the FIRST OSAMA EVER BORN. Osama might have been the child's Grandfather's name. How would you feel if everytime someone name a child Chaim (of which I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands in the Jewish community)...but everytime said child went to school, people likened him to Chaim Ben Pechach (sp?) , a man who spent time in jail for something horrible. What would you say?
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What did Chaim do that was horrible?
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According to http://www.answers.com/topic/chaim-ben-pesach
In 1971, at the age of 14, he joined the Jewish Defense League. He eventually became the JDL National Chairman in September 1978. He had to step down in December 1978 after he went to jail for bombing Egyptian targets in an effort to stop the Israeli retreat from the Sinai Peninsula. After his release and upon the completion of his probation in July 1983, he rejoined JDL. In 1984, he eventually became Chairman again and, in an effort to influence the Soviet Union to allow Jewish emigration, in the 1980s, he bombed Soviet diplomatic targets in New York and tear-gassed a ballet performance at Lincoln Center that featured Soviet performers. He continued as JDL Chairman until his arrest in 1987. He pleaded guilty in connection with six bombings and was sentenced to ten years but served five and a half before being released on probation.
Imerica:
--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 12, 2007, 01:10:24 AM ---
--- Quote ---What??? and further ???...
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First of all, leave the “What???” for those on whom it works. Lower your tone. One question mark is quite enough.
--- Quote ---First of all, Osama Bin Laden wasn't the FIRST OSAMA EVER BORN.
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I hope, he is the last one.
--- Quote ---... Chaim Ben Pechach (sp?) , a man who spent time in jail for something horrible. What would you say?
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I would say that comparing the activities of Chaim and those of Osama is spitting in the graves of 3,000 Americans who died on 9/11.
Obviously, I must not add that I disrespect you for that.
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The high schooler Osama didn't kill anyone... Osama Bin Laden DID. And we're talking about namesakes. Since you want to demonize an innocent teenager and compare him to a terrorist, wouldn't it be just as wrong to demonize anyone named Chaim because of what Ben Pesach did, it would be just as unfair.
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Imerica on June 12, 2007, 09:54:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 12, 2007, 01:10:24 AM ---
--- Quote ---What??? and further ???...
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First of all, leave the “What???” for those on whom it works. Lower your tone. One question mark is quite enough.
--- Quote ---First of all, Osama Bin Laden wasn't the FIRST OSAMA EVER BORN.
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I hope, he is the last one.
--- Quote ---... Chaim Ben Pechach (sp?) , a man who spent time in jail for something horrible. What would you say?
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I would say that comparing the activities of Chaim and those of Osama is spitting in the graves of 3,000 Americans who died on 9/11.
Obviously, I must not add that I disrespect you for that.
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The high schooler Osama didn't kill anyone... Osama Bin Laden DID. And we're talking about namesakes. Since you want to demonize an innocent teenager and compare him to a terrorist, wouldn't it be just as wrong to demonize anyone named Chaim because of what Ben Pesach did, it would be just as unfair.
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Imerica, that just sounds like really dumb logic!
Osama got a bunch of muslims to hijack a bunch of planes with the intention of killing man, woman, child all innocent into two very large towers...Osama we all know is a horrible demon...so if some poor unfortunate kid just happens to be named Osama...then that sucks for him...bad luck...it's sad, yes..but it's bad luck
But you can't compare Chaim to Osama...it's like comparing absolute darkness with refrigerators. Doesn't sound logical that comparison does it?
Imerica:
--- Quote from: fjack on June 12, 2007, 06:15:05 AM ---You blacks kill me. You complain and moan about the white man keeping you as slaves but you won't say a word about the muslims who practiced slavery for over 1400 years. You know that you won't get a penny out of them so you try and shake down the white man. The arabs are still practicing slavery today and your 'leaders' are not doing a damn thing except trying to shake down banks, insurance compainies and burger king. Muslims have no place in western society. They should be placed back into their hovels where they can rot in ignorance and depravity. If you love this child so much why not pay his one way ticket back to camel land where he can become a slaver and maybe enslave you.
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First of all fjack, I don't blame the white man for anything. My motto is that if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. I believe that you have control over your own destiny and that no one can ruin you but you, yourself. And this isn't about slavery at all, its about giving someone the right to bare a name that probably wasn't passed down because of a terrorist. He shouldn't have to change his name because someone else who is a bad person also has the name. I know some terrible Ericas and some bad ones...that dosen't mean that my dad named me after a bad one. Plus this teenager at the top of the thread is indeed a teenager. Why blame hime for something he never did?
And Fjack, you can't tell people where to go and where they have no right to be. You aren't king of the world. That would pretty much like me telling you to go back to where YOU came from. Totally improper.
And trust me, I'll never be enslaved. I was born free..and I'm going to stay that way.
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