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High school kid named Osama
Imerica:
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--- Quote from: Imerica on June 12, 2007, 09:54:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Zvulun ben Moshe on June 12, 2007, 01:10:24 AM ---
--- Quote ---What??? and further ???...
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First of all, leave the “What???” for those on whom it works. Lower your tone. One question mark is quite enough.
--- Quote ---First of all, Osama Bin Laden wasn't the FIRST OSAMA EVER BORN.
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I hope, he is the last one.
--- Quote ---... Chaim Ben Pechach (sp?) , a man who spent time in jail for something horrible. What would you say?
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I would say that comparing the activities of Chaim and those of Osama is spitting in the graves of 3,000 Americans who died on 9/11.
Obviously, I must not add that I disrespect you for that.
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The high schooler Osama didn't kill anyone... Osama Bin Laden DID. And we're talking about namesakes. Since you want to demonize an innocent teenager and compare him to a terrorist, wouldn't it be just as wrong to demonize anyone named Chaim because of what Ben Pesach did, it would be just as unfair.
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Imerica, that just sounds like really dumb logic!
Osama got a bunch of muslims to hijack a bunch of planes with the intention of killing man, woman, child all innocent into two very large towers...Osama we all know is a horrible demon...so if some poor unfortunate kid just happens to be named Osama...then that sucks for him...bad luck...it's sad, yes..but it's bad luck
But you can't compare Chaim to Osama...it's like comparing absolute darkness with refrigerators. Doesn't sound logical that comparison does it?
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Bad is bad anyway you slice it, dannycookie... Osama is evil upon evil and what Chaim did got him kicked out of a country. At any rate they both have done wrong..the HUGE difference is that Chaim served his time for his crime... Osama has yet to be captured and tortured the way I'd like to see it happen for his attrocities. My point is that a name is just a name. This teenaged boy shouldn't be demonized because of what Osama Bin Laden did on 9/11. That would be like a child named Chaim being demonized because of what Chaim served his time for.
mord:
Chaim never killed anyone or even tried to cause injuries
Imerica:
--- Quote from: mord on June 12, 2007, 10:20:21 AM ---Chaim never killed anyone or even tried to cause injuries
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I'm happy that he never killed anyone, but his actions had the ability to do that and worse. At any rate he's served his time and I have no intention of bringing it up again. I used his history as a reference because of the fact that people compared an innocent teenager's name to a terrible person. My comment was only to make the distinction that a rose by any other name is still a rose.
pbc:
1. In my opinion it's pretty stupid to bully someone just because of his name, but I believe it would
happen if he had a different name which would be strange to americans (eg. Hanz, Gideon, laetitia).
2. Although he was named Osama before the 9/11 bombing, I would expect him to change his name just
in order to avoid things like this, because clearly Osama Bin Laden is considered #1 enemy of the US.
3. Many german jews named their sons Adolph prior to the 2nd world war, but after the holocaust, for
obvious reasons, they stoped. I would expect the same from muslims, even if they support him, they
should have some respect to the national american majority.
This is all folks!
MassuhDGoodName:
Imerica: "... I used his history as a reference because of the fact that people compared an innocent teenager's name to a terrible person. My comment was only to make the distinction that a rose by any other name is still a rose..."
Accepting Imerica's contention as true, it then stands to reason that The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., was jailed in Birmingham, AL, for the simple reason that he was a common criminal caught while intentionally breaking the law.
Same for the demonstrating negroes who were attacked by German shepherd police dogs, forced off their feet by city fire hoses turned on them, and then beaten with billy clubs by the police, arrested, and jailed. Commissioner of Public Safety, Eugene "Bull" Connor, sat in his wheelchair on a rooftop supervising the situation, and gleefully shouted loudly "Look at 'them n***rs run!"
Anyone who today claims that those lawbreakers were simply breaking unjust laws which were written to oppress them and deprive them of their Constitutional rights, is simply wrong.
They are to be remembered as criminals; nothing more, and nothing less.
This is because the Law is the Law, and anyone breaking any Law for any reason whatsoever, is a criminal and an enemy of society. They must be prosecuted and punished to the full extent of the Law.
This is Imerica's position on Chaim's arrest and incarceration.
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