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High school kid named Osama
Imerica:
--- Quote from: C.F. on June 12, 2007, 02:02:30 AM ---At one time, it looked like Erica was at least slightly interested in learning about us and why we believe what we do. This latest jewel from her dung-covered fingers shows her true colors for all to see.
The question will be what the admins do now.
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Wow, that's clever.. "her dung covered fingers." You're just angry because I disagree with you and your stance...as well as your negativity. You haven't been very cool with me at all on some subjects, and you talk about my 'dirty hands.' Go and wash yours.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
I am the negative one? You are the one who maliciously slandered Chaim and accused him of doing a very awful thing. Get the camel pie out of your mouth before you accuse others of having bad breath, dimwit.
Imerica:
--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on June 12, 2007, 12:53:43 PM ---Imerica: "... I used his history as a reference because of the fact that people compared an innocent teenager's name to a terrible person. My comment was only to make the distinction that a rose by any other name is still a rose..."
Accepting Imerica's contention as true, it then stands to reason that The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., was jailed in Birmingham, AL, for the simple reason that he was a common criminal caught while intentionally breaking the law.
Same for the demonstrating negroes who were attacked by German shepherd police dogs, forced off their feet by city fire hoses turned on them, and then beaten with billy clubs by the police, arrested, and jailed. Commissioner of Public Safety, Eugene "Bull" Connor, sat in his wheelchair on a rooftop supervising the situation, and gleefully shouted loudly "Look at 'them n***rs run!"
Anyone who today claims that those lawbreakers were simply breaking unjust laws which were written to oppress them and deprive them of their Constitutional rights, is simply wrong.
They are to be remembered as criminals; nothing more, and nothing less.
This is because the Law is the Law, and anyone breaking any Law for any reason whatsoever, is a criminal and an enemy of society. They must be prosecuted and punished to the full extent of the Law.
This is Imerica's position on Chaim's arrest and incarceration.
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During MLK's time in the Civil Rights movement, he exerted no violence toward the people who wanted to keep blacks in the background. The whole 'hosing down' of blacks back then was the police's assumption that it would stop them dead in their tracks from wanting any kind of equality. The police wasn't advanced upon. The protestors marched quietly... I saw the movie and read the accounts. They did absolutely nothing to deserve having German Shepard dogs attack them.
Another question, did this happen to the white women during sufferage, when they protested in the streets for their right to vote just like the white man? Were they hosed down, attacked by dogs, or beaten down with policemen's clubs? I can answer that for you... "hell no. " White women, at that time had sexism against them but they were still thought to be better than black men and women who didn't get a chance to vote until the late 1960's.
And another thing. My bringing up Chaim's past was merely to put an inkling of a thought into someone's head about how unimportant your name is. My husband's name is Charles, he's 34 years old. He was born after the Manson Family killed Sharon Tate and 5 other people under Charles Manson's orders. Now since my husband's parents named him Charles, do you think he was named for Charles Manson? NO. Its a family name and he happened to be a namesake. With that said, just because Chaim was sent to jail for his misdeeds doesn't mean that any male Jewish child born after his stint in jail should be demonized for being the recipient of the same name. I wasn't attempting to go any deeper than that.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
--- Quote from: Imerica on June 12, 2007, 03:56:04 PM ---And another thing. My bringing up Chaim's past was merely to put an inkling of a thought into someone's head about how unimportant your name is. My husband's name is Charles, he's 34 years old. He was born after the Manson Family killed Sharon Tate and 5 other people under Charles Manson's orders. Now since my husband's parents named him Charles, do you think he was named for Charles Manson? NO. Its a family name and he happened to be a namesake. With that said, just because Chaim was sent to jail for his misdeeds doesn't mean that any male Jewish child born after his stint in jail should be demonized for being the recipient of the same name. I wasn't attempting to go any deeper than that.
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You can't save your ass now, ho. You said exactly what you meant and it was very clear to everybody. You think Chaim is a terrible person because he decided to sacrifice everything to fight Russian Nazis and save Soviet Jews.
Imerica:
--- Quote from: C.F. on June 12, 2007, 03:58:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Imerica on June 12, 2007, 03:56:04 PM ---And another thing. My bringing up Chaim's past was merely to put an inkling of a thought into someone's head about how unimportant your name is. My husband's name is Charles, he's 34 years old. He was born after the Manson Family killed Sharon Tate and 5 other people under Charles Manson's orders. Now since my husband's parents named him Charles, do you think he was named for Charles Manson? NO. Its a family name and he happened to be a namesake. With that said, just because Chaim was sent to jail for his misdeeds doesn't mean that any male Jewish child born after his stint in jail should be demonized for being the recipient of the same name. I wasn't attempting to go any deeper than that.
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You can't save your ass now, ho. You said exactly what you meant and it was very clear to everybody. You think Chaim is a terrible person because he decided to sacrifice everything to fight Russian Nazis and save Soviet Jews.
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"Ho" ? Wow, you're full of it CF. You really are. And since you want to get pissy about it, I think that other things could have been done in place of Chaim's actions. Things that could have kept him out of jail. Things that would have allowed him to imigrate back to Israel. He chose to be militant and that's never a good thing. NEVER. I'm not trying to save ANYTHING, but I can tell you what YOU can save. Save the negativity for someone who thrives on it.
Chaim isn't a saint. He knows he isn't perfect and even admits when he's made mistakes (not that I've ever heard him say that his actions were a mistake) but I can respect that about him. This thread was about demonizing a child because he carries the same name a terrorist has. That's no difference than someone naming a child Chaim, then assuming that that family named him after JTF's Chaim (just in case you didn't realize it, Chaim isn't liked by everyone). Would you be okay with someone bullying a child because he and Chaim have the same name?
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