Author Topic: Poll: Should JTF support Newt Gingrich for President? (Read 7840 times)

Chaim Ben Pesach · « **on:** December 14, 2011, 02:35:51 AM »

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In the past week, Newt Gingrich has said: there is no "Palestinian" people; the "peace" process is delusional; there is no difference between Fatah and Hamas; the "PA" is committed to Israel's destruction; Iran building nuclear bombs would lead to a "second Holocaust"; he would assist Israel logistically and with intelligence information to stage a military strike against Iran; the U.S. must become not only energy independent but must become a net exporter of energy to prevent the Persian Gulf nations from blackmailing the world; and he leans toward granting clemency to Jonathan Pollard.

In light of these very positive statements, I think we should endorse Gingrich and start an immediate campaign of daily videos aimed at voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida (the first four states holding primaries and caucuses). We will be enlisting our great Shlomo in making the videos, G-d willing, and so they will be professional.

This poll will decide whether we endorse or not based upon a majority of the votes.

Spiraling Leopard · « **Reply #1 on:** December 14, 2011, 03:16:47 AM »

The aggressive candidate seems the best option. It will be the refreshing thing people want.

imaknick · « **Reply #2 on:** December 14, 2011, 03:29:45 AM »

Newt Gingrich did support a PLO/Fatah state during the "Oslo Piece Accords" in 1993. There is a photo of Gingrich shaking the hand of Arafat. Gingrich is just saying these things to get the Jewish vote. In comparison, the Fatah terrorists say that they are moderate muslims who are peace- loving and want to stand side by side in peace with Israel, but in truth they say the opposite in Arabic. The Fatah just says these peaceful rhetoric just to get the world on their side. Is Gingrich really trustworthy on this matter?

Zelhar · « **Reply #3 on:** December 14, 2011, 04:18:30 AM »

I am not sure JTF can effectively do a positive campaign. Chaim, are you sure that if you post videos calling to people to vote for Newt it won't make more people associate him with right wing extremists and back away from him ?

Spiraling Leopard · « **Reply #4 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:35:02 AM »

There is not really that much to pick from the candidates. The best thing is to point out how much better he will be than o-bumboy and how necessary it is that he get's replaced.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #5 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:45:41 AM »

Yes. We have to.

Rubystars · « **Reply #6 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:19:08 AM »

I voted yes.

I don't like him and don't trust him. Newt outright lied about the contract with America, and there are many other legitimate issues that can be brought against him as were expressed in those videos. However we need someone who can beat Obama and Romney is being weak when we need aggression and also appears to be a Muslim-lover and thinks Obama is a "nice guy". So I think Newt is a better choice.

Debbie Shafer · « **Reply #7 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:58:38 AM »

I am torn about this question. Newt Gingrich is totally qualified, brilliant, and capable of getting rid of Obama's destructive policies, and he also supports Israel, and says the Pal state was made up...yes to grab Israel's land, but alot is coming out about him being a Progressive. We have had 3 progressive President, FDR--Whom Gingrich says was the best President, Woodrow Wilson, and now Barack Obama...We don't need another Progressive-Socialist President. I keep praying that a true Conservative could be elected...I hope Santorum and Bachmann stay in the race...Now Ron Paul has come out with Anti-Israel rhetoric, and he says "Just leave Iran alone," well we left Iran alone...and look how they are building Nukes...What A Dufus Ron Paul is! If the Jews and Hispanics would come on board with the rest of the Right we could eliminate Barack Obama's Job!

Dr. Dan · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:29:49 AM »

Yes because what is the alternative?

I would do anti Nazi Paul videos or bring them back from 2008 campaign. Maybe combine pro newt with anti Paul.

Secularbeliever · « **Reply #9 on:** December 14, 2011, 11:58:04 AM »

If this year has taught us anything it is not to jump to conclusions. IIRC we have endorsed Palin, Huckabee, Perry and maybe others I am forgetting. I prefer Newt to Romney but would prefer Bachmann of Santorum. I would wait to see what happens in Iowa. Even if we don't endorse Newt we should commend him for saying the Palestinians are a contrived people and nation.

angryChineseKahanist · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2011, 12:00:06 PM »

Ron Paul is taking votes away - although not much.
Even Rush and Sean Hannity are putting him down.

muman613 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 14, 2011, 12:38:32 PM »

I voted yes with much regret. I think he has said things which are nice but I am now skeptical that he will come through with his promises.

It is hard to believe it has come to this!

GunsAndRosesFan · « **Reply #12 on:** December 14, 2011, 12:40:41 PM »

I think we have to support Newt...

briann · « **Reply #13 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:05:11 PM »

I am still in the 'NO' camp. I realize his positions are better than Romney who is is so leftist, he makes Mcain look conservative... but I just don't think Newt will do well against Obama. the 'undecided' voters are more superficial which is why polls still indicate Romney has the best chance (and which is why they voted for Obama in 2008). All I care about at this point is ensuring Obama loses... I just don't want to gamble here. Until I see polls showing the 'undecideds' supporting Newt... I can't support him.

But lets be clear... I hate both candidates.

briann · « **Reply #14 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:17:02 PM »

Quote from: angryChineseKahanist on December 14, 2011, 12:00:06 PM

Ron Paul is taking votes away - although not much.
Even Rush and Sean Hannity are putting him down.

Yes, Rush has spent more and more time campaigning against Paul. He calls him the candidate that the Democrats are rooting for. I think this is partially because he is seeing a very weak GOP field and doeesn't want Paul to be a 'default' or 'backup' candidate in case every other candidate falls flat on their face.

Also, Rush is a big supporter of Newt.

Daniel Michael ben Avraham · « **Reply #15 on:** December 14, 2011, 01:27:21 PM »

Odd as it is Newt has changed his spots to the point that he is indeed the most truthful and honest voice when it comes to the lie of fakestinians and how they are a terrorist organization that deserves no funding from the U.S. There is no other Republican candidate that has voiced views like that in such a public and open forum and continued to defend them. I have no choice but to cast my vote to support Newt due these recent positions he has expressed. If he is elected president he has promised to do certain things with regard to Israel. Finally moving the U.S. embassy to Yerushalayim would be a huge step in the right direction. I am sure Newt will disappoint in many regards in the future, but at least he will be starting off on the right foot.

eb22 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 14, 2011, 04:30:44 PM »

Quote from: Secularbeliever on December 14, 2011, 11:58:04 AM

I would wait to see what happens in Iowa. Even if we don't endorse Newt we should commend him for saying the Palestinians are a contrived people and nation.

This is basically my preference as well. While seeing what transpires in the remaining weeks leading up to the Iowa Caucus and the Iowa Caucus itself, we can continue to point out that Newt had the courage to tell the truth about the Fakeastians. Both from the standpoint that the Fakeastians were invented as a political tool against Israel and that Fatah/ " P.A. " have the same hideous end game as Hamas.

Baltimore · « **Reply #17 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:08:15 PM »

I would hold off on an official endorsement until after New Hampshire. For now making videos is fine.

Lisa · « **Reply #18 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:33:49 PM »

I would hold off on supporting any candidate for the time being. None of them are good. I like Michele Bachmann. But she has no chance of winning.

I think Gingrich's comments about the fakestinians being an invented people was aimed at the right wing Evangelicals. Gingrich is a politician and will say what he has to in order to get elected. If we make a video supporting him after all those anti-Gingrich videos (which were great), it might look funny.

What you could do is make a video about how Gingrich spoke the truth about fakestinians being an invented people. You could point out the areas where he and JTF differ, but stress that you agree about his fakestinian comments.

The fact of the matter is, we have lousy choices with this crop of Republicans. Of course we'll hold our noses and vote for whoever gets the nomination. It's really all about kicking that black supremacist moosie communist hater of America, whites and Jews, out of the White House, along with his ungrateful wife. Let's not forget that.

So, along with a new video agreeing with Gingrich about the fakestinians, we should keep making videos hitting out at Obama.

Confederate Kahanist · « **Reply #19 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:56:42 PM »

I guess even though he was very leftist and believed in a Fakestinian people at first. One thing I like about him is that he has lived in Ga and understands it's problems.

TruthSpreader · « **Reply #20 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:18:02 PM »

Yes. I would rather have him than Ron Paul.

briann · « **Reply #21 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:29:39 PM »

Quote from: Lisa on December 14, 2011, 08:33:49 PM

I would hold off on supporting any candidate for the time being. None of them are good. I like Michele Bachmann. But she has no chance of winning.

I think Gingrich's comments about the fakestinians being an invented people was aimed at the right wing Evangelicals. Gingrich is a politician and will say what he has to in order to get elected. If we make a video supporting him after all those anti-Gingrich videos (which were great), it might look funny.

What you could do is make a video about how Gingrich spoke the truth about fakestinians being an invented people. You could point out the areas where he and JTF differ, but stress that you agree about his fakestinian comments.

The fact of the matter is, we have lousy choices with this crop of Republicans. Of course we'll hold our noses and vote for whoever gets the nomination. It's really all about kicking that black supremacist moosie communist hater of America, whites and Jews, out of the White House, along with his ungrateful wife. Let's not forget that.

So, along with a new video agreeing with Gingrich about the fakestinians, we should keep making videos hitting out at Obama.

well said. My feelings exactly.

Lisa · « **Reply #22 on:** December 14, 2011, 10:34:10 PM »

One more thought.

Why not also make videos about all the Republican candidates? It could be a regular JTF commentary about whatever positions these candidates take and how they do in any future debates. You could say what you like and dislike about each candiate while also plugging JTF.

edu · « **Reply #23 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:58:57 AM »

Don't forget, Gingrich was even the friend of Jew-Hater, Al Sharpton.It could be that JTF should support whoever is the Republican candidate after he is chosen as the lesser of evils when compared to B. Hussein Obama.
But to support the flip flopper Gingrich (who earned a small fortune from the government's bailed-out mortgage giant, Freddie Mac) NOW, will bring JTF much embarrassment if the guy takes on anti-Jewish positions once again, when it is politically convenient.
I also wish to remind everyone of Israeli history that might be applied here to the USA race.
When Arik (Ariel) Sharon ran against the left-wing Ehud Barak and afterwards the left wing A. Mitzna, he said a number of right-wing statements. But since Sharon was a flip-flopper at heart, having started his career as an ally of the ultra-leftist Yosi Sarid, who then turned to the right when it was convenient, it wasn't too difficult for him to turn back to the left, especially when that was the only way to get the left wing judicial system and media "off his back" for corruption.
In the end Sharon expelled all the Jewish settlers from Gaza and part of Shomron and succeeded to do more damage, than a blatantly leftwing Prime Minister could have done.

Kahane-Was-Right BT · « **Reply #24 on:** December 15, 2011, 02:18:04 AM »

I'm not sure. I think he is faking (to get Jewish and evangelical votes). Nonetheless, it is good that he says such things, even if he is faking it. Because people will be hearing the truth. And if he takes this aggressive approach, he can beat obama. If he backs down and tries to play it PC and apologetic like Romney is doing, and not ruffle anybody's feathers, he will lose (like Romney will probably lose, serving up softballs to obama).

But while it might be good for gingrich to win, and possibly he could defeat obama, I am hesitant about JTF endorsing a candidate based on this. We all know the person's many flaws, and Chaim made videos specifically pointing them out. Some horrendous things about this person. And now an endorsement?

I haven't voted yet, still thinking about it.