Yekutiel and HaIvri confusion

[OdKahaneChai]

Is Haivri married?

What evidence is there that warrants calling him "haomo" and "faggie"?

Is he a bona fide blatantly repeatedly transgressing practicing intromissing homosexual/bisexual?

Or is he just a fellow who is somewhat sexually aroused by male company, just like 12% of the human males on Earth (including Orthodox Jewish males!)?

Oh please.  We're just joking.  And yes, Ha'ivri is married.  And find me one true Torah Jew who is "somewhat sexually aroused by male company."

[jdl4ever]

Is Haivri married?

What evidence is there that warrants calling him "haomo" and "faggie"?

Is he a bona fide blatantly repeatedly transgressing practicing intromissing homosexual/bisexual?

Or is he just a fellow who is somewhat sexually aroused by male company, just like 12% of the human males on Earth (including Orthodox Jewish males!)?

This is one weird post.   

[jdl4ever]

That's not nice to say such Loshon Hara about a poster. 

[OdKahaneChai]

I apologize.  I removed the post.

[newman]

Is Haivri married?

What evidence is there that warrants calling him "haomo" and "faggie"?

Is he a bona fide blatantly repeatedly transgressing practicing intromissing homosexual/bisexual?

Or is he just a fellow who is somewhat sexually aroused by male company, just like 12% of the human males on Earth (including Orthodox Jewish males!)?

The "10%-12%" figure is complete BS put out by the fudge-packer lobby
It has been completely discredited by every reputable research body. The real figure is 2.5%-4% max'.

I think we have a twinkle toes here.

[OdKahaneChai]

Is Haivri married?

What evidence is there that warrants calling him "haomo" and "faggie"?

Is he a bona fide blatantly repeatedly transgressing practicing intromissing homosexual/bisexual?

Or is he just a fellow who is somewhat sexually aroused by male company, just like 12% of the human males on Earth (including Orthodox Jewish males!)?

The "10%-12%" figure is complete BS put out by the fudge-packer lobby
It has been completely discredited by every reputable research body. The real figure is 2.5%-4% max'.

I think we have a twinkle toes here.

Newman, I agree with the first two statements but about the third, jdl4ever is right, it is Lashon Hara to say that, especially considering you know nothing about the guy.  I suppose the laws of Lashon Hara don't apply to you gentiles but it's just not a good thing to do.

[newman]

Is Haivri married?

What evidence is there that warrants calling him "haomo" and "faggie"?

Is he a bona fide blatantly repeatedly transgressing practicing intromissing homosexual/bisexual?

Or is he just a fellow who is somewhat sexually aroused by male company, just like 12% of the human males on Earth (including Orthodox Jewish males!)?

The "10%-12%" figure is complete BS put out by the fudge-packer lobby
It has been completely discredited by every reputable research body. The real figure is 2.5%-4% max'.

I think we have a twinkle toes here.

Newman, I agree with the first two statements but about the third, jdl4ever is right, it is Lashon Hara to say that, especially considering you know nothing about the guy.  I suppose the laws of Lashon Hara don't apply to you gentiles but it's just not a good thing to do.

He's spreading propaganda from the radical fag lobby. What would you assume he is?

[OdKahaneChai]

Is Haivri married?

What evidence is there that warrants calling him "haomo" and "faggie"?

Is he a bona fide blatantly repeatedly transgressing practicing intromissing homosexual/bisexual?

Or is he just a fellow who is somewhat sexually aroused by male company, just like 12% of the human males on Earth (including Orthodox Jewish males!)?

The "10%-12%" figure is complete BS put out by the fudge-packer lobby
It has been completely discredited by every reputable research body. The real figure is 2.5%-4% max'.

I think we have a twinkle toes here.

Newman, I agree with the first two statements but about the third, jdl4ever is right, it is Lashon Hara to say that, especially considering you know nothing about the guy.  I suppose the laws of Lashon Hara don't apply to you gentiles but it's just not a good thing to do.

He's spreading propaganda from the radical fag lobby. What would you assume he is?

Uninformed.

[newman]

Is Haivri married?

What evidence is there that warrants calling him "haomo" and "faggie"?

Is he a bona fide blatantly repeatedly transgressing practicing intromissing homosexual/bisexual?

Or is he just a fellow who is somewhat sexually aroused by male company, just like 12% of the human males on Earth (including Orthodox Jewish males!)?

The "10%-12%" figure is complete BS put out by the fudge-packer lobby
It has been completely discredited by every reputable research body. The real figure is 2.5%-4% max'.

I think we have a twinkle toes here.

Newman, I agree with the first two statements but about the third, jdl4ever is right, it is Lashon Hara to say that, especially considering you know nothing about the guy.  I suppose the laws of Lashon Hara don't apply to you gentiles but it's just not a good thing to do.

He's spreading propaganda from the radical fag lobby. What would you assume he is?

Uninformed.

I'll stick with "twinkle-toes" 'til he demonstrates otherwise.

[Mifletzet]

I'm glad to hear that Haivri is not a homosexual, despite some of the epithets on the forum.

And also that the gay/closet gay/suppressed homosexuality/bisexuality/shirt lifter/office lizard/pederasty rate is only 2%, not the 12% claimed by Kinsey.

Please tell me that this film "Trembling Before G-d" is also a distorted, perverted, capital offence - chayav misa phantasm! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trembling_Before_G-d

[Dominater96]

Is Haivri married?

What evidence is there that warrants calling him "haomo" and "faggie"?

Is he a bona fide blatantly repeatedly transgressing practicing intromissing homosexual/bisexual?

Or is he just a fellow who is somewhat sexually aroused by male company, just like 12% of the human males on Earth (including Orthodox Jewish males!)?

He was actually Rav Binyamin Kahane's brother in law. Haivri married Talia Kahanes ( Binyamins wife) sister. Haivri has a very intresting family history. Leon Trotsky is his Great grandfather I think. I read it in a book the history of Israel by something Sachar.

[Avraham David Ben Leib]

Unfortunately, there are more than a few infiltrators and provacateurs within the ranks of the Kahanists in Israel.
Even Binyamin Kahane (may his blood be avenged) before his death, confided in Barry Chamish telling him the reason he left KACH was because it was getting so bad that he couldn't tell the infiltrators from the real members.
In my heart I know that Chaim is on the level, but I wish he would distance himself from some of these phonies. I'm thinking of one in particular but I won't mention names right now because I know I am treading on thin ice here.

[raiseyourfist]

Yeh i agree on all the right reasons

[Daniel]

Why aren't Chaim and Mike Guzovsky working together?

[Mifletzet]

If they met on the street would Chaim currently be on talking terms with Mike, Lenny, Baruch, Itamar, David, Yehudah, Feiglin and Sackett?

And if they were still alive, would even Ravs Meir and BZ talk to Chaim?

 Presumably, from where they are now, in the Olam Haemes, their opinion of Chaim has been revised sky-high, since Vancier is the only Jew on Earth who is fulfilling Rav Kahane's motto: "The only way to progress is through confrontation"!

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Unfortunately, there are more than a few infiltrators and provacateurs within the ranks of the Kahanists in Israel.
Even Binyamin Kahane (may his blood be avenged) before his death, confided in Barry Chamish telling him the reason he left KACH was because it was getting so bad that he couldn't tell the infiltrators from the real members.
In my heart I know that Chaim is on the level, but I wish he would distance himself from some of these phonies. I'm thinking of one in particular but I won't mention names right now because I know I am treading on thin ice here.

Yea Rav Benyamin Kahane ZTL HYD, would talk to that moran. What evidence is their?

[kahaneloyalist]

Unfortunately, there are more than a few infiltrators and provacateurs within the ranks of the Kahanists in Israel.
Even Binyamin Kahane (may his blood be avenged) before his death, confided in Barry Chamish telling him the reason he left KACH was because it was getting so bad that he couldn't tell the infiltrators from the real members.
In my heart I know that Chaim is on the level, but I wish he would distance himself from some of these phonies. I'm thinking of one in particular but I won't mention names right now because I know I am treading on thin ice here.

Yea Rav Benyamin Kahane ZTL HYD, would talk to that moran. What evidence is their?

Chamish claims it, that the only evidence Chamish is a nut and a liar who blames every evil on Zionism.

[MarZutra]

It's a damn shame nobody can get 10,000 jews to storm the knesset and butcher every self-hatig, arab-kissing judenrat traitor. If they did that the way would be open to ascend the Temple Mount and destroy that moslem pig house that defiles that holy place....like Israel should have done in 1967.

Thanks for making me laugh...

[q_q_]

That's not nice to say such Loshon Hara about a poster. 

I do not know to whome you refer.

But if you WARN jews about a person. That is not lashon Harah. It is infact, something else, and it is an obligation.
A friend, a great scholar on paltalk, said
to paraphrase him, according to my understanding

rechilut.. is passing on information that helps another person. a warning.
it is permissable when trying to save others from falling into a trap.

It is not lashon harah.
And by that reasoning, he would warn about shmuley boteach, for saying such things as judaism is not just for jews..  he is a rabbi teaching heresy and that is dangerous. 

The friend is not a kahanist.. But he is a great scholar. He is so frum, I think he considers Rabbi Steinsaltz to be a heretic!

---ADDED CORRECTION-----
I just spoke to him directly. He does not consider him a heretic.
But he considers him very wrong, in setting up the "sanhedrin"
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[OdKahaneChai]

That's not nice to say such Loshon Hara about a poster. 

I do not know to whome you refer.

But if you WARN jews about a person. That is not lashon Harah. It is infact, something else, and it is an obligation.
A friend, a great scholar on paltalk, said
to paraphrase him, according to my understanding

rechilut.. is passing on information that helps another person. a warning.
it is permissable when trying to save others from falling into a trap.

It is not lashon harah.
And by that reasoning, he would warn about shmuley boteach, for saying such things as judaism is not just for jews..  he is a rabbi teaching heresy and that is dangerous. 

The friend is not a kahanist.. But he is a great scholar. He is so frum, I think he considers Rabbi Steinsaltz to be a heretic!

---ADDED CORRECTION-----
I just spoke to him directly. He does not consider him a heretic.
But he considers him very wrong, in setting up the "sanhedrin"
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jdl4ever was referring there to a post of mine that was slightly inappropriate, which I removed.  And anyone who calls Rav Steinsaltz, Shlit"a, a heretic is absolutely insane.

[q_q_]

Rav Steinsaltz is Rabbi, not Rav. And he is The Nasi of The Sanhedrin, in effect the leader of The Jewish People. Nowadays people use rabbi to refer to a rav in English but in correct Hebrew, rabbi only refers to a member of The Sanhedrin.

* most rabbis have not even heard of this "Sanhedrin". 

I almost said that those who have heard of it, do not accept it.   But actually, so few rabbis have heard of it.

The only people that heard of it and thus consider it, are those who read arutz7. Or, did read arutz at that time.

This does not prove them right or wrong. But bare it in mind.

Like many, I do not know Halachic reasons for or against. But they rightly lost alot of support, since at the time of Gush Katif  we did not hear anything from them, nor at the time of Amona. 

[OdKahaneChai]

That's not nice to say such Loshon Hara about a poster. 

I do not know to whome you refer.

But if you WARN jews about a person. That is not lashon Harah. It is infact, something else, and it is an obligation.
A friend, a great scholar on paltalk, said
to paraphrase him, according to my understanding

rechilut.. is passing on information that helps another person. a warning.
it is permissable when trying to save others from falling into a trap.

It is not lashon harah.
And by that reasoning, he would warn about shmuley boteach, for saying such things as judaism is not just for jews..  he is a rabbi teaching heresy and that is dangerous. 

The friend is not a kahanist.. But he is a great scholar. He is so frum, I think he considers Rabbi Steinsaltz to be a heretic!

---ADDED CORRECTION-----
I just spoke to him directly. He does not consider him a heretic.
But he considers him very wrong, in setting up the "sanhedrin"
-----------------------------

jdl4ever was referring there to a post of mine that was slightly inappropriate, which I removed.  And anyone who calls Rav Steinsaltz, Shlit"a, a heretic is absolutely insane.

Rav Steinsaltz is Rabbi, not Rav. And he is The Nasi of The Sanhedrin, in effect the leader of The Jewish People. Nowadays people use rabbi to refer to a rav in English but in correct Hebrew, rabbi only refers to a member of The Sanhedrin. 

Fine - Rabbi Steinsaltz...

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...Quote from: OdKahaneChai on November 28, 2007, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: q_q_ on November 28, 2007, 03:37:24 AM
Quote from: jdl4ever on June 23, 2007, 11:00:02 PM
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Dear fellow JTF members,
I have followed with great interest this discussion between you, and must ask if one or all of you will please for my benefit define the different groupings within Judaism such as Hareidim, etc.
Only in recent years do I recall reading such differentiations among the Torah Jews, yet I have yet to find definitions of them which actually clarify the various posts I often find.

[OdKahaneChai]

Re:  "...Quote from: OdKahaneChai on November 28, 2007, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: q_q_ on November 28, 2007, 03:37:24 AM
Quote from: jdl4ever on June 23, 2007, 11:00:02 PM
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Dear fellow JTF members,
I have followed with great interest this discussion between you, and must ask if one or all of you will please for my benefit define the different groupings within Judaism such as Hareidim, etc.
Only in recent years do I recall reading such differentiations among the Torah Jews, yet I have yet to find definitions of them which actually clarify the various posts I often find.

Charedi (at least today) means "Ultra-Orthodox."  Rabbi Kahane was "Charedi Leumi" (Religious Zionist).

[TorahZionist]

But they rightly lost alot of support, since at the time of Gush Katif  we did not hear anything from them, nor at the time of Amona. 

q_q_, did u bother to do any research before making such a drastic accusation?

Read these:
http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/legal/psak5765AdarI26.html
http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/legal/psak5766Shevat5.html