Author Topic: It's not just blacks and arabs... (Read 9157 times)

genteelgentile · « **on:** July 06, 2007, 07:15:08 PM »

I have learned(or at least been reminded) in the last couple of days about the problems with Croats, Bosnians, and Ukrainians that I never realized. So we do criticize and condemn some white Europeans. It is depressing though, because these are just more people to watch out for.

To all newcomers, JTF is not really about race or religion; it is about good and evil...

TheCoon · « **Reply #1 on:** July 06, 2007, 07:39:25 PM »

Yup, which is why I hate when Chaim goes off on tirades against blacks and arabs. White Europeans have killed more Jews than any other people and he continually cops a plea for them. No race or people is any better than another. When evil culture takes over, anti-Semitism flourishes. Any type of people are capable of forming evil cultures.

disclaimer: I'm not saying white Europeans are bad, but they're a people who are responsible for the best and worst humanity has to offer. When a good culture prevails, they excel. When one doesn't...

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #2 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:00:17 PM »

Quote from: thunderbolt on July 06, 2007, 07:39:25 PM

Yup, which is why I hate when Chaim goes off on tirades against blacks and arabs.

Well then it's time for you to leave, dude. I can't remember the last time you had a constructive or insightful post. All you do is defend Christian members of this board who have acted like jerks, criticize Chaim and JTF policies, and defend blacks and Arabs.

I don't really see how you are any different at all than Hidden Author--well, maybe you are a bit more forthright than him.

cosmokramer · « **Reply #3 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:03:18 PM »

Listen to the JTF archives, you will find plenty of audio with Chaim criticizing White europeans.

TheCoon · « **Reply #4 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:09:58 PM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 06, 2007, 08:00:17 PM

Quote from: thunderbolt on July 06, 2007, 07:39:25 PM
Yup, which is why I hate when Chaim goes off on tirades against blacks and arabs.
Well then it's time for you to leave, dude. I can't remember the last time you had a constructive or insightful post. All you do is defend Christian members of this board who have acted like jerks, criticize Chaim and JTF policies, and defend blacks and Arabs.

I don't really see how you are any different at all than Hidden Author--well, maybe you are a bit more forthright than him.

Shouldn't you be defending a white nationalist nazi somewhere? You simply can't handle a differing opinion. You didn't even have the guts to stand up for your faith when other members were attacking it, and I'm NOT talking about defending Allen-T. As far as I'm concerned what you have to say means nothing.

TheCoon · « **Reply #5 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:10:42 PM »

Quote from: cosmokramer on July 06, 2007, 08:03:18 PM

Listen to the JTF archives, you will find plenty of audio with Chaim criticizing White europeans.

He does not attack them with anywhere near the same vigor, that you cannot deny.

JTFSupporter · « **Reply #6 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:11:09 PM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 06, 2007, 08:00:17 PM

Quote from: thunderbolt on July 06, 2007, 07:39:25 PM
Yup, which is why I hate when Chaim goes off on tirades against blacks and arabs.
Well then it's time for you to leave, dude. I can't remember the last time you had a constructive or insightful post. All you do is defend Christian members of this board who have acted like jerks, criticize Chaim and JTF policies, and defend blacks and Arabs.

I don't really see how you are any different at all than Hidden Author--well, maybe you are a bit more forthright than him.

Wasn't Hidden Author the guy who always bashed Chaim on Ask JTF every week? Has thunderbolt done the same? Chaim knows what he's talking about, and is on the ball 90% of the time.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #7 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:11:34 PM »

Yeah, Thunder, your reply has gotten me thinking you haven't listened to any of Chaim's Ask JTF shows whatsoever. Did you miss this week when he talked about all of the Christian/Catholic persecution of the Jews in Europe through the ages?

Cosmokramer is black. Yup, that's right. Do you really think that an actual racist would have black fans?

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:12:05 PM »

Quote from: thunderbolt on July 06, 2007, 08:10:42 PM

He does not attack them with anywhere near the same vigor, that you cannot deny.

BS. You and I both know that is not true.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:14:08 PM »

Quote from: Wolf on July 06, 2007, 08:11:09 PM

Wasn't Hidden Author the guy who always bashed Chaim on Ask JTF every week? Has thunderbolt done the same? Chaim knows what he's talking about, and is on the ball 90% of the time.

Only 90%?

Yeah, that's the guy, and yeah, Thunderbolt does the same, albeit in a less slick way.

JTFSupporter · « **Reply #10 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:23:03 PM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 06, 2007, 08:14:08 PM

Quote from: Wolf on July 06, 2007, 08:11:09 PM

Wasn't Hidden Author the guy who always bashed Chaim on Ask JTF every week? Has thunderbolt done the same? Chaim knows what he's talking about, and is on the ball 90% of the time.
Only 90%?

Yeah, that's the guy, and yeah, Thunderbolt does the same, albeit in a less slick way.

LOL! 90% was just a figure of speech, not to be taken literally. A proper estimate would be more like 98.5%. Pobody's nerfect and all that.

cosmokramer · « **Reply #11 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:34:06 PM »

My picture, That is me thunderbolt. shortly before I went to m,y Rabbis for Shabbat.

EagleEye · « **Reply #12 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:34:22 PM »

IMHO, the groups that hate Jews NOW are not white Christians.

Anyone who believes white Christians are the largest threat to Jews CURRENTLY is living in the past. Its not 1940.

cosmokramer · « **Reply #13 on:** July 06, 2007, 08:36:08 PM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 06, 2007, 08:11:34 PM

Yeah, Thunder, your reply has gotten me thinking you haven't listened to any of Chaim's Ask JTF shows whatsoever. Did you miss this week when he talked about all of the Christian/Catholic persecution of the Jews in Europe through the ages?

Cosmokramer is black. Yup, that's right. Do you really think that an actual racist would have black fans?

Not only that C.F. I am a Jew first, black is just my racial group, But still you are right, If I thought Chaim was a racist I would not be a member, nor moderator for that matter on this forum.

Ehud · « **Reply #14 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:02:49 PM »

You don't look half black to me cosmokramer.

cosmokramer · « **Reply #15 on:** July 06, 2007, 09:12:03 PM »

Quote from: Ze'ev Jabotinsky on July 06, 2007, 09:02:49 PM

You don't look half black to me cosmokramer.

Look at my father

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #16 on:** July 07, 2007, 01:18:39 AM »

Quote from: cosmokramer on July 06, 2007, 08:36:08 PM

Not only that C.F. I am a Jew first, black is just my racial group, But still you are right, If I thought Chaim was a racist I would not be a member, nor moderator for that matter on this forum.

Of course I know that you are Jewish--I just pointed out your race to point out how dumb Thunderbolt is being with his "Chaim has to stop picking on blacks" routine. It is getting very tiresome and annoying, and if he is sick of witnessing our alleged bashing of blacks, he can remove himself from the situation whenever he wants.

newman · « **Reply #17 on:** July 07, 2007, 01:34:50 AM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 07, 2007, 01:18:39 AM

Quote from: cosmokramer on July 06, 2007, 08:36:08 PM
Not only that C.F. I am a Jew first, black is just my racial group, But still you are right, If I thought Chaim was a racist I would not be a member, nor moderator for that matter on this forum.
Of course I know that you are Jewish--I just pointed out your race to point out how dumb Thunderbolt is being with his "Chaim has to stop picking on blacks" routine. It is getting very tiresome and annoying, and if he is sick of witnessing our alleged bashing of blacks, he can remove himself from the situation whenever he wants.

On the day we see large numbers of decent blacks protesting against the muslim nazi louis chuck-a-can and "loyal American muslims" (oxymoron) running millitant imams out of town......we'll change our broad brush aproach.

Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks · « **Reply #18 on:** July 07, 2007, 01:40:36 AM »

Good post, Newman.

DownwithIslam · « **Reply #19 on:** July 07, 2007, 01:45:45 AM »

Cosmokramer, you look Jewish. I honestly would not think you were black if I saw you. There are many Jews who are dark skinned so you fit in perfectly. Never feel that you are different in any way.

DownwithIslam · « **Reply #20 on:** July 07, 2007, 01:47:29 AM »

And to the poster who is sticking up for shvartzas. If at a time when there is so much danger around, for you to spend your time sticking up for shvartzas is an abomination.

newman · « **Reply #21 on:** July 07, 2007, 01:56:15 AM »

Quote from: C.F. on July 07, 2007, 01:40:36 AM

Good post, Newman.

Thanks. I'm sick to death of the girlie men crapping on about 'moderate muslims' (that's a laugh) . Their silence = approval.

Ask yourself: If christian Americans went to their church one Sunday and found a new minister preaching about 'anti-christ Jews' and yelling 'burn the synagogues', They would lynch the SOB from the nearest oak tree....right?

Yet these so-called moderate muslims go to their stinking mosques every Friday where the imams yell 'ikbad al yehudi'...(kill the jews). What do they say? What do they do?...........Yep, bugger-all! If the so-called moderates are silent in the face of rabbid anti-semitism, they are in agreement.

As for the christian arabs that thunderbolt thinks are so pro-Israel.........
the only pro-Israel christians in the middle east are the South Lebanese Army lot.....and they're pheonicians, NOT arabs. The actual arab christians of the middle east are Jew-hating, pan-arab nationalist, nazis the same as the muslims.

newman · « **Reply #22 on:** July 07, 2007, 02:54:08 AM »

As for the negroes........

When the percentage of good, law abiding drug free ones goes from 20 to 70, we'll shut up. Until then, the stereo-type applies.

TheCoon · « **Reply #23 on:** July 07, 2007, 08:57:39 AM »

newman, the South Lebanese Army was mostly shiite at the time Israel was supporting it. You're woefully ignorant to the history of that group. Don't give me this garbage that the shiites call themselves phoenicians! [censored], google wikipedia "south lebanese army" and you'll find they were mostly shiite muslims. I know many Christian arabs in my area and that I've worked with that hate muslims and support Israel. You likely don't know any living in a cave somewhere. And yes, newman, some Christian arabs call themselves phoenicians. The fact remains they are at the very least partially arab and do not hate Israel. There are Christian arabs who do hate Israel and they generally are anti-religious communists or socialists like George Habbash. In that respects they are pretty much identical to the white European anti-Semites who are overwhelmingly anti-religious socialists. If you want to say that all Christian arabs are Israel-hating scum then you're a liar and a fraud. I know you hate Christians though so that's likely causing you to hate them in the first place.

I think anyone who says it's evil not to condemn all arabs or all blacks is an evil degenerate. I'd love to see where your religion condones this, Chaimfan? Perhaps you could show me the passages in the new testament where it says just condemn everyone without asking any questions. That's not a very Christian attitude. I'm sure Jesus would do the same thing as you.

I think anyone who says Chaim attacks white European anti-Semitism with the same vigor as he does the blacks is a liar as well. It's flat out evil to condemn any one group of people as a whole. My religion doesn't allow it and I doubt theirs does either but what do I know.

cosmokramer, I got a bad feeling you're going to come to a realization soon about the group of people in this thread. They hate black people and that includes your father. It's plain as day and they will turn on you later on.

It's frightening how you guys can't see how condemning all blacks/arabs, etc, etc is what's keeping JTF from being a major movement. People who actually have lives/jobs/friends know that not all blacks or arabs are bad people. It goes against reason and experience of the vast majority of people. People hear what you're saynig and say "these guys are nuts".

newman · « **Reply #24 on:** July 07, 2007, 09:35:35 AM »

Hey thunderpants,

The SLA was a renaming of the Free Lebanon Army which was "mostly christian" according to wikipedia. Chech it out before you call me ignorant, you dummy.

Secondly I have never met a lebanese christian (and there are bucket-loads in my country) who called themself an arab. You need only look at all those beautiful lebanese christian women and compare them to the aborted catfishes that pass for arab women to realise they are different races. I realise that given your persuasion you don't take much notice of the fairer sex..... but just try looking.

Lastly, you should not worry about Cosmo. Nobody here hates him or his father for ANY reason (let alone his parentage) and given his commitment to our cause he is the last person anyone will turn on. YOU on the other hand are a different matter entirely. Most folks on the forum hate you because you are a retarded, log-necked goose. I further suspect that you are inbred but only your Auntie Ma or Uncle Pa would know for sure.