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Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« on: December 06, 2012, 06:31:52 PM »
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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2012, 09:53:17 AM »
But isn't Jordan isn't supposed to a part of Israel? Chaim had said many times that Jordan was an artificial state in numerous Ask JTF programs.



 
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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 11:10:08 AM »
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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2012, 06:39:07 PM »
But isn't Jordan isn't supposed to a part of Israel? Chaim had said many times that Jordan was an artificial state in numerous Ask JTF programs.


 Yes and no. I believe Rav Kahane himself said that Palestine is Jordan and if their would be cooperation with them he would help them take over Jordan and leave there. Bottom line is that it would be better for Jews to have that situation instead of them taking over the "West Bank" and being closer to Am Yisrael.
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4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2012, 12:39:31 PM »
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Rabbi Kahane never said that "Jordan" is "Palestine". Rabbi Kahane would never surrender one inch of the land of Israel to the Arab Muslim Nazi invaders and trespassers.

There is no "Jordan" and there is no "Palestine".

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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2012, 01:20:42 PM »
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Rabbi Kahane never said that "Jordan" is "Palestine". Rabbi Kahane would never surrender one inch of the land of Israel to the Arab Muslim Nazi invaders and trespassers.

There is no "Jordan" and there is no "Palestine".

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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2012, 02:00:44 PM »
I agree with Chaim. There is no "Jordan" and there is no "Palestine." Both are falsehoods.

Israel however isn't and is the only true state in the Middle East.

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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2012, 05:50:02 PM »
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Rabbi Kahane never said that "Jordan" is "Palestine". Rabbi Kahane would never surrender one inch of the land of Israel to the Arab Muslim Nazi invaders and trespassers.

There is no "Jordan" and there is no "Palestine".


 Sorry but I do remember at least in one of his video's he said that. He said he would be willing to establish a palestinian state in Jordan and help them overthrow the gov. that is if they leave Israel (Judea and Samaria).

 Soo your saying it would be a bad idea to have the Arabs leave Israel and go to Jordan instead?
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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2012, 11:42:19 PM »
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Rabbi Kahane never said that "Jordan" is "Palestine". Rabbi Kahane would never surrender one inch of the land of Israel to the Arab Muslim Nazi invaders and trespassers.

There is no "Jordan" and there is no "Palestine".

I heard him say that Jordan is part of the Land of Israel but for the sake of peace we will not press our claim to it.  However, if the Jordanians were aggressive to Israel, then he would favor taking and keeping all of Jordan.
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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 02:32:43 AM »
I heard him say that Jordan is part of the Land of Israel but for the sake of peace we will not press our claim to it.  However, if the Jordanians were aggressive to Israel, then he would favor taking and keeping all of Jordan.

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Rabbi Kahane would never concede a single inch of the land of Israel anywhere. He may have said that for now Israel would not launch a war to liberate the eastern bank of the Jordan River, but he never ever would concede that in the end all of Biblical Israel must be in Jewish hands.

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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2012, 03:00:04 AM »
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Rabbi Kahane never said that "Jordan" is "Palestine". Rabbi Kahane would never surrender one inch of the land of Israel to the Arab Muslim Nazi invaders and trespassers.

There is no "Jordan" and there is no "Palestine".
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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2012, 04:39:21 AM »
Jordan is definitely also invalid. At least those who think Jordan is Palestine aren't asking for further immediate concessions though so it's slightly better than the current position of trying to force Israel give up even more. Even so the Jews should have control of Jordan too.

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Re: Michael Coren: Jordan is the Palestinian state
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2012, 12:17:26 PM »
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Rabbi Kahane would never concede a single inch of the land of Israel anywhere. He may have said that for now Israel would not launch a war to liberate the eastern bank of the Jordan River, but he never ever would concede that in the end all of Biblical Israel must be in Jewish hands.

Chaim, I don't think he was conceding anything.  He was saying that we would not press our claim to Jordan as long as the Jordanians did not bother us.  I am sure he thought it was inevitable  that the Jordanians would turn aggressive and that the Jews would capture Jordan in a defensive war and then it would be ours to keep.  It seemed to me a good mixture of idealism and pragmatism.
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