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Yes. The funny thing he usually doesn't even deny that he is the same banned troll that returns with a new name every time he is booted out.

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Even worse than the endless droves of black-colored Nigerian "Jews", yellow-colored Kaifeng "Jews", and cafe-au-lait colored Peruvian "Jews", could be when the Sochnut agrees with quasi-Kahanist Yair Davidy's theory www.britam.org that most of White Europe, America and Australasia peoples are of ancient Ten Lost Tribe origins, and that they too have Right of Return.



Imagine 200,000 White American Oklahoman Budweiser-swilling Rednecks descending on Jerusalem with the legal status of Jews!

Hashem has promised that there will always remain a pure stock sprout of genuine-from-the Avos Jews,.

But just a few too many goyim/geirim/quasi geirim/gerei toshav are let in, that sprout will be swamped and extinguished, and then the Creation ceases to exist.

We want to "judaize/noahidize" the gentiles, but not to make them actual Jews.

We are not racist: but we are racialist. Racialism (which is not the same as racism) is a foundation of the Torah!
I forgot that mans name in the video but he's on Arutz Sheva many people think he might be rightI can understand  some people might be take aback by him due to the anti Semitism that was in Europe and still emanates from Europe.But we know Israel  at times fought with each other.Not all of the time but sometimes  i now remember Yair Davidi he's an Australian Jew religious who lives in Israel a long time           http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/audio-can-dna-researchers-identify-the-lost-ten-tribes/   



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Yes. The funny thing he usually doesn't even deny that he is the same banned troll that returns with a new name every time he is booted out.

He does seem to keep coming back.  i think im missing something

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I don't think it is racist at all to not want 35 million Nigerians in your country.

On the surface you can say they are the same just a different skin color...... I don't care what the skin color, it is their 3rd world ways and atrocious hygiene practices, ignorance and crime prone behavior that I don't like.

Anyone who has lived around a group of Nigerians, Somalians, etc. knows what I am talking about. Sure there are some that are great people but they certainly aren't the norm.

Let them claim to be Judaized if they like, just do it in their own country.

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I don't think it is racist at all to not want 35 million Nigerians in your country.

On the surface you can say they are the same just a different skin color...... I don't care what the skin color, it is their 3rd world ways and atrocious hygiene practices, ignorance and crime prone behavior that I don't like.

Anyone who has lived around a group of Nigerians, Somalians, etc. knows what I am talking about. Sure there are some that are great people but they certainly aren't the norm.

Let them claim to be Judaized if they like, just do it in their own country.

Yeah, and all Ashkenazi Jews smell like peaches... Those Jews with big noses, gotta watch out for them.. And those foreheads...

I also don't believe that millions have converted, I believe the article states around 4,000 converted..

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Yeah, and all Ashkenazi Jews smell like peaches... Those Jews with big noses, gotta watch out for them.. And those foreheads...

I also don't believe that millions have converted, I believe the article states around 4,000 converted..
They are not true converts. When an entire tribe "converts" in order to emigrate so they can live off of Jewish welfare, I call this fraud, or in this case- a Nigerian scam.

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They are not true converts. When an entire tribe "converts" in order to emigrate so they can live off of Jewish welfare, I call this fraud, or in this case- a Nigerian scam.

Did you read the article? From that article it seems like more than a 'nigerian' scam... Also I don't see that an 'entire tribe' converted... And where is 'welfare' discussed?

The article doesn't even suggest that they want to make Aliyah to Israel aside from making pilgrimages on the holidays...

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In February, I was fortunate to travel to Abuja, capital of Nigeria, where I spent a week with its Igbo Jewish community, visiting synagogues and homes, and celebrating Shabbat and Purim. Most Igbo Jews, numbering perhaps 3,000 to 5,000, live in Igboland, the ancestral Nigerian region of the Igbos. A smaller number of Igbo Jews live in Abuja, where they have three synagogues.
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Igbo Jews hope one day soon to be able make pilgrimages to Israel. In their efforts to assert their Judaism and Jewish identity in Nigeria, they look to the Jews of Israel for inspiration and solidarity.


I must say that if they have gone through, or do go through, halachic conversion they should be accepted.

Remember that the entire nation of Kahzaria converted and those conversions were accepted.

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/Kuzari/
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Yeah, and all Ashkenazi Jews smell like peaches... Those Jews with big noses, gotta watch out for them.. And those foreheads...

I also don't believe that millions have converted, I believe the article states around 4,000 converted..

By hygiene I do not mean smell..... I am talking about people who see nothing wrong with crapping in the same stream they get their water from...... hand washing is a totally foreign concept......... majority are TB positive (and very few will correctly take medication for it) and do not understand it is bad to hack and cough all over others, or in their hand then immediately prepare your meal. People who see nothing wrong with slaughtering a goat in their front yard or settling disputes with a machete or other violence the way they did in their homeland.

The big nose and head are physical attributes, no one said anything about that other than I don't care what color they are.

Despite liberal Utopian "everyone is the same" ideology, the fact is they are not..... just as not all religions share the same legitimacy. islam vs. Judaism vs. Christianity vs. Hinduism vs. Buddhism... would you feel equally with any one of these as neighbors?

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I don't want to argue with anyone, the above message is just my personal opinion. I base it on my limited life experiences.

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Did you read the article? From that article it seems like more than a 'nigerian' scam... Also I don't see that an 'entire tribe' converted... And where is 'welfare' discussed?
Every African household costs the welfare system of Israel well over ILS1,000,000. At least the Sudanese and the Eritreans travel to Israel at their own expenses. These Nigerians expect us to assume all costs including shipping and delivery.  And they will become full citizens the instant they land on Israeli soil, so then they can bring in more Nigerians by "family union" procedure.

I read this line:
"The Igbo nation is part of Israel,” Caliben affirms". The Igbo nation is 18% of Nigeria, about 30 million people.

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Did you read the article? From that article it seems like more than a 'nigerian' scam... Also I don't see that an 'entire tribe' converted... And where is 'welfare' discussed?

The article doesn't even suggest that they want to make Aliyah to Israel aside from making pilgrimages on the holidays...


I must say that if they have gone through, or do go through, halachic conversion they should be accepted.

Remember that the entire nation of Kahzaria converted and those conversions were accepted.

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/Kuzari/


Oh gosh "The Khazar Jews" I think they were converted to Islam subsequently...Interstingly I think Yemen was a huge Jewish community to at some point that got converted to Islam

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I have a solution to this problem... Launch a holy war against Islam and take all of their land. They convert to B'nai Noach or they die! Problem solved, now there's plenty of room in Israel!
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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I forgot that mans name in the video but he's on Arutz Sheva many people think he might be rightI can understand  some people might be take aback by him due to the anti Semitism that was in Europe and still emanates from Europe.But we know Israel  at times fought with each other.Not all of the time but sometimes  i now remember Yair Davidi he's an Australian Jew religious who lives in Israel a long time           http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/audio-can-dna-researchers-identify-the-lost-ten-tribes/   



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Mord have you seen this one?
 
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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Typical Leftist "bleeding heart" Judeo-Israeli judge's ruling now ensures that every Negroe coming in to Israel will be bringing a squalling Negroe brat with them!http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4374805,00.html

Only one thing might stop this mass influx of Negroes: if Ashkenazic Haredi seminary girls in Bnei Brak start getting raped by the illegal Kushanim infiltrators across Rehov Jabotinsky in Pardes Katz, then mebbe,  jus' mebbe we might have a Haredi riot worth talking about that will put intolerable pressure on Saar to actually putting these Black mistonnenim on planes back to the Dark Continent from whence they originated! The Sefrad indigens of South Tel Aviv have shown themselves to be unable to muster enough violent muscle to stop the Black invasion, remembering that peaceful demonstrations in Israel achieve less than nothing!

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You're wishing rape on Jewish girls? WHAT THE FFFF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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We don't want anybody raped. But that is the only thing that will galvanize the Haredim who are the only ones who have the numbers en masse to save the State from the tsunami of Blacks.

Otherwise in 10 years time there'll be an Israeli government-in-exile meeting in London as to how they lost the State of Israel without firing a shot due to criminally sloppy border control and un-Torah subversive "Jewish bleeding hearts"!

As Chaim says:
"Once Blacks move in, they NEVER leave and it's the END OF THE NEIGHBOURHOOD!"

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Every African household costs the welfare system of Israel well over ILS1,000,000. At least the Sudanese and the Eritreans travel to Israel at their own expenses. These Nigerians expect us to assume all costs including shipping and delivery.  And they will become full citizens the instant they land on Israeli soil, so then they can bring in more Nigerians by "family union" procedure.

I read this line:
"The Igbo nation is part of Israel,” Caliben affirms". The Igbo nation is 18% of Nigeria, about 30 million people.


It's like Ethiopians say they are all from "the line of Solomon", not just the Ethiopian Jews. Even Ovadiah Yosef who ruled they are Jewish and don't need to convert says they are from Dan, not Judah. Judah isn't even a lost tribe.

I think I heard as far back as the year 2000 that Igbos say they are descended from Kohanim who only married local black women and converted them. Since when do Kohanim marry converts? And obviously as they are not rabbis, they don't have the power to convert. I heard they have the Kohen Y Chromosone as do many other Africans. But they are clearly not Jewish since their mothers are not Jewish and definetely not Kohanim.

At least Ethiopians (both Jewish and Non-Jewish) have Semitic facial features. The nation of Kush are racially white Hamites with black skin. The black race diverged from Kush and are known as Congoids. There are also Capoids (The blacks of the Kalahari Desert who are hunters and gatherers to this day.). Ethiopians speak a Hamitic langauge which like other Hamitic langagues (Like Ancient Egyptian) are related to Semitic langauges. But to claim that all of Ethiopia is decended from Jews is border line "We da original Hebros.". To claim any other part of Africa is from the real Jews is just the same as the Black Hebros of Dimona. There is no relation between some blacks in the deep dark parts of Africa that have no relation with Ancient Israel and the Jewish People. Only Arabs who Islamized parts of Africa introduced them to the outside World and Europe's connection with them is limited to the slave trade and later colonization of Africa. What does a white Jew or European want to go to such a country like Nigeria, Congo, or the Central African Republic for (or other place deep in the middle of the jungle.)? At least South Africa has white places and North Africa was once civilized in Roman times before being Arabized. Maybe people like safaris in Kenya which is East Africa, but West Africa and Central Africa are dark and deep in the jungle (It's like going alone in Harlem in the middle of the night.).


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The Sefrad indigens of South Tel Aviv have shown themselves to be unable to muster enough violent muscle to stop the Black invasion, remembering that peaceful demonstrations in Israel achieve less than nothing!


What is a Sefrad? Do you mean the Ashkenazic mispronunciation of Sefarad (Spain)? Sfardic Jews are not Spain. Sfardic Jews are Sefaradim and follow Nusach Sefarad. It's like saying American Jews are the United States or calling Ashkenazic Jews "Germany". Sfardic Jews call themselves by the adjective Sefaradim, not by your mispronunciation of Spain or the real pronuciatian of Spain. And if Ashkenazim call themsleves Ashkenaz, it's just bad grammar. I guess you're just like the Ebonics speakers that you don't like that also speak incorrectly. It's okay to say Yehudei Sefarad or Yehudei Ashkenaz. It means Jews of Spain or Jews of Ashkenaz. But you don't call us Sefards. It's like calling us "Spains" in English.

You've spoken against Sefaradim in the past.


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I have a solution to this problem... Launch a holy war against Islam and take all of their land. They convert to B'nai Noach or they die! Problem solved, now there's plenty of room in Israel!

Great idea! אפרים בן נח for president.

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Regarding Moses: he went to the Land of Cush and lived there for forty years, and actually married the wife of the [slain] Ethiopian king, and lived with her [outwardly] as man and wife, as is recounted in the accounts of Moses' life. Even though he did not approach her physically, he was still not buried in the Land of Israel at all, neither his body nor his bones.

The Written Torah does not tell us what happened to Moses between the time when he fled Pharaoh's henchmen, at about the age of 18, and when he became Jethro's shepherd and son-in-law, at about the age of 77. There are a few versions in the Midrashim of what happened, but according to the most detailed one, Moses slew the Egyptian in the year 2386, when he was 18 years old. He fled to Ethiopia, where he joined the army and 9 years later was coronated king. This is when he "married" the widow of the previous king of Ethiopia, or "Cush". He remained king of Ethiopia for 40 years, from 2395 to 2435. In that year, at the age of 67, he left Ethiopia and went to Midian. After the incident with the shepherds at the well, Jethro imprisoned Moses for ten years. Zipporah fed Moses secretly during these ten years, and finally convinced her father to release him. In 2445, at the age of 77, Moses and Zipporah were married, and shortly after had their first son, Gershon. The incident of the burning bush occurred in the year 2447, when Moses was 79 years old. (See Seder HaDorot, s.v. 2386, 2387, 2392, 2435, 2444)

Why would Jethro have imprisoned Moses after the incident at the well? 

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I read in the Lightcatcher Books version of Sefer HaYashar by Wayne Simpson that he believes Ethiopia in the Midrash is actually Upper Egypt (Southern Egypt meaning the Upper Nile.). One of the Pharoahs listed un the list of Pharaohs according to him is actually Moses. He said there's Egypt and then there's Egypt. Also the Noahide Jim Long writes about how Egyptoligists inflate the years of Egyptian dyansties and stack one after the other while some were ruling at the same time in different areas. Maybe Halachic Kush is Southern Egypt and then when Kush moved more South, they became "[censored]".

Also, Jim Long writes that the events in Sefer HaYashar match Egyptian archeological records of the Old Dynasty which was not around 2500 B.C.E. like Egyptoligists say but rather at the time of the Exodux (About 1400 B.C.E. which fits in well with the 163 year discepancy in which Chazal deleted years from the Babylonian Exile count.).


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Also, Jim Long writes that the events in Sefer HaYashar match Egyptian archeological records of the Old Dynasty which was not around 2500 B.C.E. like Egyptoligists say but rather at the time of the Exodux (About 1400 B.C.E. which fits in well with the 163 year discepancy in which Chazal deleted years from the Babylonian Exile count.).


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/5096

Judaism: Why Do We Live in the Year 5765?

Published: Sunday, May 08, 2005 3:54 PM

The prophets who prophesized in Babylonia, and in the Land of Israel, left us many descriptions of the future redemption. Some of the most intriguing prophecies seem to exactly define the timing of the redemption. Without a correct understanding of the Jewish year count, a proper interpretation of these intriguing prophecies is not possible.

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The prophets who prophesized in Babylonia, and shortly after the end of the Babylonian exile in the Land of Israel, left us many descriptions of the future redemption. Some of the most intriguing prophecies seem to exactly define the timing of the redemption. It seems to me that without a correct understanding of the Jewish year count, a proper interpretation of these intriguing prophecies is not possible.

I therefore offer my humble ideas about the matter of the years in the trust that we live in the time about which is written: "For the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall purify themselves, and make themselves white, and be tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand." (Daniel 12: 9-10)

The Babylonian exile brought the Jewish sages and prophets into contact with the sages of Babylonia, who possessed advanced astronomical wisdom. Importantly, they knew the exact timing of the solar equinox events, the times when the Sun - twice yearly - passes the equator. This subject was of great interest to the Jewish exiles, because of a tradition that the Sun was created at the spring-equinox position, on the fourth day of Creation, which was the fourth day of the first week of the first month (Nissan) of the first year.

At the time, the accepted wisdom of the world was that 19 solar years have exactly 235 lunar months and that a solar year is 365.25 days. An immediate mathematical consequence of the latter is that every 28 years the equinoxes are at the same hour of the same day of the week (28 quarter days make a full week).

After the initial return to the Land of Israel, during the first decennia after the completion of the second Beit HaMikdash, it seems that Ezra and the Men of the Great Assembly (Knesset HaGedolah) applied their knowledge in an exceptionally brilliant way.

The creativity of the sages was spurred by observations regarding the spring equinox. Given astronomical facts, these observations could have been made in a limited number of years in a relatively short historical period. For the sake of clarity I will restrict myself to two likely candidates: I will assume that the starting points of the sages' reasoning were the spring equinoxes of the years 9 and 13 after the completion of the second Beit HaMikdash. I will denote these years as 9 ABS and 13 ABS (After Bayit Sheni).

In the year 9 ABS, the spring equinox was on the fourth day of the week, in the first part of the night from Tuesday to Wednesday. In the year 13 ABS, four years later, the equinox was on the fourth day of the month Nissan, at virtually the same hour of the early night.

The sages surmised that the absolute year count of the year 13 ABS had to be a multiple of 19 plus one. After all, in the year one - by assumption the year of the Sun's creation - the equinox had been on the fourth of Nissan, and that situation repeats itself only and exactly every 19 years. Similarly, they concluded that the absolute year count of the year 9 ABS had to be a multiple of 28 plus one. After all, in year one the equinox had been on the fourth day of the week, and that situation repeats itself only and exactly every 28 years. Conversely, the sages could deduce from the reality of their day that the equinox of year one had been early in the night.

In other words, the sages specified what we know in the Jewish calendar as the Machzor HaKatan (the 19-year cycle) and the Machzor HaGadol (the 28-year cycle). The Machzor HaKatan is the basis for the determination of the leap years of the Jewish calendar, and therefore plays an essential role in Jewish law. By contrast, the Machzor HaGadol has no intrinsic function, but our sages gave it an artificial role by assigning to it a Halacha of its own. The Talmud states the following teaching:

"One who sees the Sun at the beginning of its cycle should say the blessing "blessed is the Maker of Creation". When does this happen? Abaye said: "Every 28 years the cycle begins again and the Nissan equinox falls in Shabtai, on the evening of Tuesday, the night before Wednesday." (Berachot 59)

In other words, the sages ordained that every 28 years - to be precise, every 10227 (28 times 365.25) days - a blessing should be recited to commemorate the beginning of a new cycle of the Machzor HaGadol.

Interestingly, the teaching specifies the detailed timing of the relevant equinox: Shabtai is the beginning of the night that starts the fourth day of the week, in accordance with the reality of the year 9 ABS. The teaching insinuates that every 28 years the equinox would return to this specific hour on the fourth day of the week. The truth, however, is that after the time of the Knesset HaGedolah this would never again be the case, the reason being that the solar year is a little (0.0078 days) shorter than 365.25 days.

We now live some 2350 years after the period in which the above teaching was literally true. A simple computation shows that the cycle of the Machzor HaGadol shifted some 18.3 days in 2350 years, 0.0078 days per year. Nowadays, we say the Blessing of the Sun on April 8 of years that are a multiple of 28 plus one. Note that the Machzor HaGadol has no direct relation with the lunar calendar. Hence, the date of the Blessing of the Sun varies in the Jewish calendar; it can be in virtually all of the month of Nissan. By contrast, it is on a fixed date in the solar calendar - except for the slow shift that we are discussing here. The next time we will say the Blessing of the Sun will be in the year 5769, when 18.3 days after the spring equinox (March 20, 1.44 pm, Jerusalem time) will indeed end up early in the night from Tuesday April 7 to Wednesday April 8.

The spring equinox moved similarly away from the fourth of Nissan of the first year of the Machzor HaKatan, because a solar year is a little (0.00462 days) shorter than the formula of 235 months per 19 years implies. After 2350 years, the shift accumulated to 10.8 days. In agreement with this, the fourth of Nissan of the first year of the Machzor HaKatan is now alternating between March 31 and April 1.

In summary, the available data quite definitively indicates that the Blessing of the Sun was instituted about 2350 years ago, very close to the time of the gathering of the Knesset HaGedolah. This is a very nice insight, but it does not solve a burning and often asked question about the Blessing of the Sun. The obligation to say this blessing seems a purely technical Halacha, devoid of any substance. After all, it seems obvious that there is nothing special about the one day per 28 years that the Halacha applies. What could be its purpose?

I will argue that the best answer is hidden in another enactment of the Men of the Knesset HaGedolah. The reader is warned that in the process we will discover something that comes very close to a definite refutation of a commonly held belief among religious Jews.

Why is the current year 5765 after Creation? Did indeed 5765 years pass since Creation? Who determined the year count and how?

Most likely, an official year count did not exist before and during the time of the first Beit HaMikdash. The lack of a reliable tradition in this area did not deter the Men of the Knesset HaGedolah. They brilliantly understood that the correct year count could be derived from astronomical data.

I propose that they reasoned as follows. They pointed out that the year that was 228 (12 times 19) years before 13 ABS was also 224 (8 times 28) years before 9 ABS. Because of its distance from 13 ABS, its absolute year count had to be a multiple of 19 plus one, and because of its distance from 9 ABS, its absolute year count had to be a multiple of 28 plus one. Therefore, the year count of the year that was 224 years before the year 9 ABS had to be one plus a multiple of 532, 19 times 28. The sages decided that this special year was the year 3193 after Creation. They had in fact little choice; 532 years more or 532 years less than 3193 were the closest other options, but these numbers were quite manifestly less acceptable in the light of biblical history.

From the retroactive identification of the year 3193 it followed that the second Beit HaMikdash had been completed in the year 3408. Therefore, the year 9 ABS became the year 3417, and year 13 ABS became year 3421. And this, my reader, is why we now live in the year 5765.

In summary, the Jewish year count was established using the ingredients of the halacha of the Blessing of the Sun: the Machzor HaGadol and the timing of the spring equinox. This is a strong indication that the Blessing of the Sun and the enactment of the year count came from the same genius, very likely one of sages of the Knesset HaGedolah. Though this seems an interesting contention, how could this shed light on the purpose of the Blessing of the Sun?

The above reflections seemingly suffer from an internal contradiction. We explicitly assumed that the sages knew the precise timing of the spring equinox. The assumption is in fact strengthened by the above Talmudic teaching, which confirms that indeed they knew. How then could they believe that the year has exactly 365.25 days? They must have observed that the distance between adjacent spring equinoxes is a little less than 365.25 days!

It is clear that our sages knew that the year is not exactly 365.25 days. They did therefore not really think that the year count that they established was correct with respect to the past. Quite likely, they were not at all interested in the past. Their responsibility was to establish and maintain Jewish unity in a troubled period in which most Jews continued to live in Exile. The sages worried about the future rather than the past, and wanted to establish a year count that would be accepted by all Jews as a common reference, until the end of time. The above construction of the "correct" year after Creation therefore certainly served its purpose. It must have been brilliantly persuasive in the ancient world.

This, however, raises another question. Our sages were no politicians or salesmen. They were Torah scholars, extremely truthful men. Is it conceivable that they lied to achieve a measure of unity? Our sages did not really cover up anything. They merely hid certain things from the average Jew. Students of kabbalah and astronomy have always silently known that the age of the world is not according to common belief.

In this context, I would like to suggest that the purpose of above teaching goes beyond the establishment of a Halacha, and is a precious hint from our truthful sages. In this view, the seemingly esoteric Blessing of the Sun in fact has a profound purpose: It conserved for thousands of years the true background of the Jewish year count.


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Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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And even as droves of cafe au lait-colored Peruvian peasant Amerindian gentiles are being flown in to Israel http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/167497#.UYBI7stBTn4
The link said that group did not receive a valid conversion, but rather a "Conservative" conversion, which is accepted by
the non-religious government of Israel, but not by those really committed to Torah and Jewish law.
Skin color by itself does not appear to be a reason to accept or reject a potential convert, but lack of total committment to Judaism is  a reason to reject them. And of course the motivation for conversion has to be a religious motivation and not some materialistic incentive.