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muman613:

--- Quote from: Lisa on June 06, 2013, 03:12:36 PM ---Look, I haven't locked the thread, and I won't do so as long as the discussion is civil.  The problem is that these types of threads usually end up with bickering members, regardless of what section of the forum they're on, which I don't want to see.  Now it's fine if someone wants to post about Jewish beliefs, and how we don't believe in dividing up G-d into different parts, or making him into a man. 

But everyone, please keep it respectful.

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Lisa, I realize you are doing what is considered best for the forum. I do not want to argue about theology with non-Jews. It is pointless and it is not essential for the Jewish mission to convert everyone to believe what we believe. But there are some things which Jews must stand strong against, and this is one of them...

I will respect your wishes, and the best interest of the forum, and attempt to avoid these kinds of discussions. As everyone knows I feel that it is important to keep the Jewish people Jewish, and point out that there are those who are willing to trick them into believing that they are observing Judaism while engaging in beliefs which our sages saw as heresy...

Sveta:
Lisa, I understand that you have to keep the peace no argument there. I am sorry that you got the impression that this turned into a "what region is better". No one implied this.
However, everything was ok until we got the post that says that the trnity is seeded in the Jewish bible. I understand that Christians can express their love for their faith in the General Discussion section...but to do it in the Torah section? How else were we supposed to reply to such a clam, that speaks aout our Biblle.If we are not allowed to respond to thhese type of claims (that missionaries use) in our very own Torah section...then wiith all due respect maybe it should be locked then. We made our point regarding the trinity and the Jewish bible.
However, perhaps the Christian members can be a little more sensitive when they post in the Torah section in the future, so this will not happen again. To post such claims about the trinity and Judaism and then tel us that it was J who spoke to us at Mt. Sinai is a very bold claim for the Torah section. I have no problem with Saxon but I don't understand how someone could make such claim and then be offended by our reples.
I mean no harm or disrespect to anyone. I'll drop it but again ask people of other religions to PLEASE be be double check what they post in the Torah section.
thank you

Lisa:

--- Quote from: muman613 on June 06, 2013, 03:15:07 PM ---Lisa, I realize you are doing what is considered best for the forum. I do not want to argue about theology with non-Jews. It is pointless and it is not essential for the Jewish mission to convert everyone to believe what we believe. But there are some things which Jews must stand strong against, and this is one of them...

I will respect your wishes, and the best interest of the forum, and attempt to avoid these kinds of discussions. As everyone knows I feel that it is important to keep the Jewish people Jewish, and point out that there are those who are willing to trick them into believing that they are observing Judaism while engaging in beliefs which our sages saw as heresy...

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OK, I'm looking now, and everything looks OK.  Carry on, I guess.

Lisa:

--- Quote from: IsraeliHeart on June 06, 2013, 03:17:28 PM ---Lisa, I understand that you have to keep the peace no argument there. I am sorry that you got the impression that this turned into a "what region is better". No one implied this.
However, everything was ok until we got the post that says that the trnity is seeded in the Jewish bible. I understand that Christians can express their love for their faith in the General Discussion section...but to do it in the Torah section? How else were we supposed to reply to such a clam, that speaks aout our Biblle.If we are not allowed to respond to thhese type of claims (that missionaries use) in our very own Torah section...then wiith all due respect maybe it should be locked then. We made our point regarding the trinity and the Jewish bible.
However, perhaps the Christian members can be a little more sensitive when they post in the Torah section in the future, so this will not happen again. To post such claims about the trinity and Judaism and then tel us that it was J who spoke to us at Mt. Sinai is a very bold claim for the Torah section. I have no problem with Saxon but I don't understand how someone could make such claim and then be offended by our reples.
I mean no harm or disrespect to anyone. I'll drop it but again ask people of other religions to PLEASE be be double check what they post in the Torah section.
thank you

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OK Israeli Heart, I see where you're coming from.  (I thought Saxon was posting about how Moses spoke to the son on Mt. Sinai, which I didn't understand.) 

Ephraim Ben Noach:
I think this type of discussion is good, Jews need to have it rammed into their heads that there is only one G-d. Some Christians may wonder how their religion got so far from Judaism, and they need to know the truth. If Christians don't want to know the truth, they shouldn't read this section.

I'm Noachide, it's my job. :::D

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