Have Neturei Karta Declared A Terrorist Group

[ChabadKahanist]

Are you against the antics of the misfits & miscreants known as Neturei Karta?
If the answer is yes there is something you in the Diaspora can do about it.
Write to you congressman,senator or member of parliament & demand that that they have Neturei Karta declared a terrorist group.
Neturei Karta members went to Iran & met with Achmadinajad several times as well as Gaza & recieves support from Iran & Hamas which is against US,UK & Canadian as well as a few other countries laws.
After all Kach & Kahane Chai are illegal & neither have engaged in terrorism while NK has engaged in acts of violence against other Jews both in Israel & as well & as stated receives funding from terrorist groups & rogue nations.
Isn't it  time we put a stop to Neturei Karta?

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

very good idea

[ChabadKahanist]

Are you against the antics of the misfits & miscreants known as Neturei Karta?
If the answer is yes there is something you in the Diaspora can do about it.
Write to your congressman,senator or member of parliament & demand that that they have Neturei Karta declared a terrorist group.
Neturei Karta members went to Iran & met with Achmadinajad several times as well as Gaza & recieves support from Iran & Hamas which is against US,UK & Canadian as well as a few other countries laws.
After all Kach & Kahane Chai are illegal & neither have engaged in terrorism while NK has engaged in acts of violence against other Jews both in Israel & as well & as stated receives funding from terrorist groups & rogue nations.
Isn't it  time we put a stop to Neturei Karta?

[ChabadKahanist]

This is very doable & can have an impact their funding & activities.

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

Who cares? Anyway why would you want to tattle to goyim about who is good or bad Jews? One day Chaims dollar solution will be implemented against them.

[muman613]

I don't see how this group can even begin to be classified as a 'terrorist' organization.

Considering the word 'terrorism' is very loosly defined as it is, I am against confusing the definition. But how does what they do constitute terrorism? Have they carried out terror attacks against Jews? Do they plan to kill Jews? I have not seen evidence that this is the case.

Being friendly with the enemy does not legally constitute terrorism....

So until I hear an explanation as to how this is terrorism I have to say I don't quite agree.

Obviously I believe NK should be Cherem and socially ostracised and excluded. But I don't think fouling the definition of 'terrorism' is necessary.

[Israel Chai]

I don't see how this group can even begin to be classified as a 'terrorist' organization.

Considering the word 'terrorism' is very loosly defined as it is, I am against confusing the definition. But how does what they do constitute terrorism? Have they carried out terror attacks against Jews? Do they plan to kill Jews? I have not seen evidence that this is the case.

Being friendly with the enemy does not legally constitute terrorism....

So until I hear an explanation as to how this is terrorism I have to say I don't quite agree.

Obviously I believe NK should be Cherem and socially ostracised and excluded. But I don't think fouling the definition of 'terrorism' is necessary.

I agree, and disagree. They do not commit terrorism. They support it. They're like the CAIR. Declare them a terrorist supporting group.

[muman613]

I agree, and disagree. They do not commit terrorism. They support it. They're like the CAIR. Declare them a terrorist supporting group.

Ok... I get it... They do support those who commit terrorism against the Jewish state...

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I agree, and disagree. They do not commit terrorism. They support it. They're like the CAIR. Declare them a terrorist supporting group.

Terrorist supporting groups ARE declared as Terrorist groups.   How else can you explain the presence of Kach on the list?   They reasoned that Kach supports terror and violence (even though that's not true) and therefore put them on the list, despite the fact that it's not a terrorist group.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Who cares? Anyway why would you want to tattle to goyim about who is good or bad Jews? One day Chaims dollar solution will be implemented against them.

I don't see it as tattling to the goyim, I see it simply as harming the NK in whatever way possible.  They deserve every possible harm we can do to them (legally).    It would put a big limitation on their stupid actions if they were to receive this distinction.  This is purely political.

[muman613]

Terrorist supporting groups ARE declared as Terrorist groups.   How else can you explain the presence of Kach on the list?   They reasoned that Kach supports terror and violence (even though that's not true) and therefore put them on the list, despite the fact that it's not a terrorist group.

Wasn't Kach related to JDL which actually did commit some activity which was considered terrorism?

I don't know if NK 'supports' Iran financially or has any other involvement other than propaganda tools. So again I find it hard to define NK as a Terror group and question whether they can be considered 'terror supporting' according to the definition which you suggest.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Wasn't Kach related to JDL which actually did commit some activity which was considered terrorism? 

As far as I know, Kach had nothing to do with JDL.

I don't know if NK 'supports' Iran financially or has any other involvement other than propaganda tools. So again I find it hard to define NK as a Terror group and question whether they can be considered 'terror supporting' according to the definition which you suggest.

They receive money from terrorists.   I don't know if that's enough to designate them, but it's certainly worth a try considering what inane considerations go into formulating that list.   You might actually succeed.

[ChabadKahanist]

As far as I know, Kach had nothing to do with JDL.

They receive money from terrorists.   I don't know if that's enough to designate them, but it's certainly worth a try considering what inane considerations go into formulating that list.   You might actually succeed.

Wrong the official name of Kach was Kach The Jewish Defense League of Israel until the time the rav,ZT"L,HY"D divested the 2 groups from one another.
But for a while they were part & parcel & even after the divestment both groups had overlapping members for quite a while.

[ChabadKahanist]

I don't see how this group can even begin to be classified as a 'terrorist' organization.

Considering the word 'terrorism' is very loosly defined as it is, I am against confusing the definition. But how does what they do constitute terrorism? Have they carried out terror attacks against Jews? Do they plan to kill Jews? I have not seen evidence that this is the case.

Being friendly with the enemy does not legally constitute terrorism....

So until I hear an explanation as to how this is terrorism I have to say I don't quite agree.

Obviously I believe NK should be Cherem and socially ostracised and excluded. But I don't think fouling the definition of 'terrorism' is necessary.

NK have  been known to use violence against other Jews.
They have terrorized Lubavitch,Klausenberg,Belz & Gur Chassidim as well against Dati Leumi Jews both in the US & Israel & it is high time they are dealt with & neutralized.
Having Congressmen & MP's in the Diaspora declare them terrorist groups is a way to deal with them.

[muman613]

If they actually engage in 'terrorism' as the term has come to be defined then I support it. If it requires expanding the definition of 'terrorism' I would have to be remain against it.

[ChabadKahanist]

If they actually engage in 'terrorism' as the term has come to be defined then I support it. If it requires expanding the definition of 'terrorism' I would have to be remain against it.

If Kach & Kahane Chai which have not as a group engaged in terrorism are on such a list I can not see why NK which supports & receives support from terrorist organizations also not be listed.

[Israel Chai]

If Kach & Kahane Chai which have not as a group engaged in terrorism are on such a list I can not see why NK which supports & receives support from terrorist organizations also not be listed.

Because the world treasures its kapos. It should be (<-That's why it won't), and to Kahane-was-right (and what does the BT stand for anyways?) you just accused me of saying CAIR was not a terrorist group. I garnish the truth to make it palatable, and you can figure out what I mean if you think about it.

[ChabadKahanist]

Because the world treasures its kapos. It should be (<-That's why it won't), and to Kahane-was-right (and what does the BT stand for anyways?) you just accused me of saying CAIR was not a terrorist group. I garnish the truth to make it palatable, and you can figure out what I mean if you think about it.

Quite true & I did not accuse you of that.
Also I did not use the letters BT.
BTW,the Arabs stole the name CAIR from us & the original CAIR (Committee Against Israeli Retreat) was a JDL front group back in the good old days.

[muman613]

Quite true & I did not accuse you of that.
Also I did not use the letters BT.
BTW,the Arabs stole the name CAIR from us & the original CAIR (Committee Against Israeli Retreat) was a JDL front group back in the good old days.

I was able to determine that LKZ was asking Kahane-Was-Right-BT about what the BT stands for...

The answer LKZ is that BT is an acronym for 'Baal Teshuva' or a person who has returned to Torah Judaism after having been brought up without religion (but born Jewish) or a minimal Jewish education (as I had been given, and the 'Bar Mitzvah'). And I am not speaking for KWRBT by the way...

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Wrong the official name of Kach was Kach The Jewish Defense League of Israel until the time the rav,ZT"L,HY"D divested the 2 groups from one another.
But for a while they were part & parcel & even after the divestment both groups had overlapping members for quite a while.

They were put on this list long after that point.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Because the world treasures its kapos. It should be (<-That's why it won't), and to Kahane-was-right (and what does the BT stand for anyways?) you just accused me of saying CAIR was not a terrorist group. I garnish the truth to make it palatable, and you can figure out what I mean if you think about it.

I didn't accuse you of anything.  You failed to understand my comment.   CAIR is a terrorist group, but they will never EVER appear on such a list, even though they were already caught directly aiding hamas.

[Dan193]

Neturei Karta was on Terrorfat's payroll.
Neturei Karta was helping Terrorfat.

http://soc.culture.israel.narkive.com/x5tzsH8i/neturei-karta-chassidim-on-arafat-s-payroll
Naomi Ragen <***@netvision.net.il> wrote:

Friends,

All of us have been appalled by pictures of
black-frocked chassidim in anti-Israel and anti-Semitic
rallies over the last few years, led by Rabbi Hirsch,
the self-styled "foreign minister" of this extreme
Israel-hating sect of chassidim.

Now, documentation uncovered by Israeli raids has
uncovered receipts and letters from Arafat to Hirsch in
which Arafat paid Hirsch thousands of dollars for his
pro PLO "activities."

[rafeli18]

How big are their numbers?
Terrorists or not they're shameless hypocrites !

[ChabadKahanist]

How big are their numbers?
Terrorists or not they're shameless hypocrites !

Not more than a few hundred. & I agree.

[rafeli18]

They reside in Israel and reap her benefits but want to "dismantle"it! Just like the muslims and Palestinians .