New great video of the Order 777

[Super Mentalita]

Please, I realy like to know what people think of our new video.

[mord]

If you look at the videos in Europe it looks like the qurananimals have taken over. Time is short the younger population in Europe is almost all muslim.There is however still time not much for Europe to save itself maybe a a 10 yr window at most 15 look at the demographics.But when we look at Scandinavian Countries it looks hopeless.

[serbian army]

Great video. I don't have time to watch it all but it also stopped at 16th minute for some reason.

[Super Mentalita]

Great video. I don't have time to watch it all but it also stopped at 16th minute for some reason.

Ooh realy? That's straingh. Thanks for responding!

[mord]

From the The Knights Templar's site.Some people believe they were Jewish.But the Templar's reject that          http://thetemplarknight.com/2011/09/18/the-templars-the-jews-and-blood-libel/   

There is some wild online speculation that the Templars were Jewish because they were bankers – I hope nobody takes that kind of forced logic seriously.  Both groups in medieval society were engaged in finance at a very primitive level and for different reasons.   In England, both groups came under increasing levels of attack in the second half of the thirteenth century and the common cause was the need for finance on the part of the king.   They would eventually see their assets seized and in the case of the Temple, they would be snuffed out for all eternity.

 

4 thoughts on “The Templars, the Jews and blood libel”

    Rustam Alhas says:   
    March 7, 2012 at 11:18 am   

    According to your article, both groups imposed an equal financial burden upon the kings/monarchies of the time. The fundamental question is: WHY the Templars were forgotten until the eighteenth century or so but the Jews became dominant almost in all spheres of society until today?
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        Templar Forum says:   
        March 7, 2012 at 2:03 pm   

        If you look at the king who suppressed the Templars – Philip IV of France – he attacked both the Templars and the Jewish community…as well as Lombard merchants and even the Catholic church. Why? Well, he was short of money and always in debt. With the Templars though, he could go all the way and close down the Order. He couldn’t ‘close down’ the Jewish community.

        With the stroke of a pen, it was possible for the king and pope to end the Templars’ existence and seize all their assets – many of which were redistributed to the Knights Hospitaller. But the Jewish religion could not be abolished by the stroke of a pen – or any religion. Instead, medieval Jews just faced a whole load of persecution and in the case of England – they were expelled completely by king Edward I. From the 1290s to the 1640s, there was no Jewish community in England.

        I’m doing a lot of research on the role of Jewish moneylenders in England during the Middle Ages and I’m happpy to share on this blog if you want. Many thanks for your interest!
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    john hall says:   
    July 27, 2013 at 5:32 pm   

    the Templars were jewish because Christians did not believe in usuary, the lending of money for interest
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        Templar Knight says:   
        July 28, 2013 at 12:54 pm   

        It’s true that Christians forbade usery though that didn’t prevent a banking system developing in the Italian city states in the Middle Ages leading to notorious banking dynasties like the Medicis. I’ve never found any evidence to suggest the Templars were Jewish but if you have any…

[Super Mentalita]

If you look at the videos in Europe it looks like the qurananimals have taken over. Time is short the younger population in Europe is almost all muslim.There is however still time not much for Europe to save itself maybe a a 10 yr window at most 15 look at the demographics.But when we look at Scandinavian Countries it looks hopeless.

Well we just have to fight this 3rd Jihad. I think a lot of people doing great things to fight Islam, but long not enough.

[mord]

Well we just have to fight this 3rd Jihad. I think a lot of people doing great things to fight Islam, but long not enough.

True

[Super Mentalita]

From the The Knights Templar's site.Some people believe they were Jewish.But the Templar's reject that          http://thetemplarknight.com/2011/09/18/the-templars-the-jews-and-blood-libel/   

 

The Templars where French the most of the times. The rest from other European country's.

[mord]

The Templars where French the most of the times. The rest from other European country's.

That i know

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

From the The Knights Templar's site.Some people believe they were Jewish.But the Templar's reject that          http://thetemplarknight.com/2011/09/18/the-templars-the-jews-and-blood-libel/   

 

Some say, that some of the Templars were Marranos. And it seems that the Templars and Jews worked hand and hand at times.  The Templars were predecessors to the Hussites as well, and they were very tight with the Jews. I believe some how they were able to preserve the orginal Church, thats why they were so secretive. One of the charges of Satanism was because they kept the Sabbath.

[mord]

Some say, that some of the Templars were Marranos. And it seems that the Templars and Jews worked hand and hand at times.  The Templars were predecessors to the Hussites as well, and they were very tight with the Jews. I believe some how they were able to preserve the orginal Church, thats why they were so secretive. One of the charges of Satanism was because they kept the Sabbath.

True there is a whole site on them   http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread563707/pg1 



This is also very interesting Rashi was from the same town in France where the Templars originated  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashi

Rashi was an only child born at Troyes, Champagne, in northern France. His mother's brother was Simon the Elder, Rabbi of Mainz.[14] Simon was a disciple of Rabbeinu Gershom Meor HaGolah,[15] who died that same year. On his father's side, Rashi has been claimed to be a 33rd generation descendant of Yochanan Hasandlar, who was a fourth-generation descendant of Gamaliel the Elder, who was reputedly descended from the royal line of King David. In his voluminous writings, Rashi himself made no such claim at all. The main early rabbinical source about his ancestry, Responsum No. 29 by Solomon Luria, makes no such claim either.[16][17]
Legends

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I just watched the video, it's very moving. Imo, I think they might get more support from non Christians if they toned down the Jesus Christ references.

[muman613]

Before praising these 'knights templar' maybe it would be good to know what exactly they wrought on Jews in the Holy Land...

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_crusades/

[mord]

Before praising these 'knights templar' maybe it would be good to know what exactly they wrought on Jews in the Holy Land...

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_crusades/

The tenplars were much less anti Jewish then the others

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

Before praising these 'knights templar' maybe it would be good to know what exactly they wrought on Jews in the Holy Land...

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_crusades/

The Templars were not the crusaders.

[Israel Chai]

The Templars were not the crusaders.

... then how did they get all their wealth?

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

... then how did they get all their wealth?

They developed a banking system.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

Could we comment on these passages...

Deuteronomy 33:17

Jeremiah 30:1-5

Zechariah 9:10

Zechariah 11:14

[Israel Chai]

They developed a banking system.

Yep. Now where did they get the money to lend?

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

Yep. Now where did they get the money to lend?

Where do you think...

[Israel Chai]

Where do you think...

I have an idea. What was Jerusalem like, you know, before them?

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

Yep. Now where did they get the money to lend?

Everyone that joined the order gave over all their land and money.

[muman613]

The Templars were not the crusaders.

The Templars were the the arm of the Crusaders. As the Aish.com site explained, there were various Knights assigned for various tasks. The Templars were responsible for maintaining the Holy Mountain. Anyway, the Jewish memory of the Templars is not a good one.

[muman613]

This is from the introduction of the wikipage on the 'Knights Templar' espouses my understanding...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_templar

The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon (Latin: Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Salomonici), commonly known as the Knights Templar, the Order of the Temple (French: Ordre du Temple or Templiers) or simply as Templars, were among the most wealthy and powerful of the Western Christian military orders[4] and were among the most relevant actors of the Christian finance. The organization existed for nearly two centuries during the Middle Ages.

Officially endorsed by the Catholic Church around 1129, the Order became a favoured charity throughout Christendom and grew rapidly in membership and power. Templar knights, in their distinctive white mantles with a red cross, were among the most skilled fighting units of the Crusades.[5] Non-combatant members of the Order managed a large economic infrastructure throughout Christendom,[6] innovating financial techniques that were an early form of banking,[7][8] and building fortifications across Europe and the Holy Land.

The Templars' existence was tied closely to the Crusades; when the Holy Land was lost, support for the Order faded. Rumours about the Templars' secret initiation ceremony created mistrust and King Philip IV of France, deeply in debt to the Order, took advantage of the situation. In 1307, many of the Order's members in France were arrested, tortured into giving false confessions, and then burned at the stake.[9] Under pressure from King Philip, Pope Clement V disbanded the Order in 1312. The abrupt disappearance of a major part of the European infrastructure gave rise to speculation and legends, which have kept the "Templar" name alive into the modern day.

[Super Mentalita]

Don't forget that the Templars took back Jerusalem from the Muslims...