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Re: Antisemitic Ideology spreading on Conservative Blogs
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2014, 03:55:20 PM »
I think the synagogue of Satan think is just another mistranslated or pulling out of context in the KJV that beleives in unicorns. I think the synagogue in the original greek is sunagogue or sometthing similar which actually means church. From comments I've seen on some sites the KJV is of course the best translation in the world, which takes some terrible reasoning to justify.

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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2014, 04:04:28 PM »
The synagogue of Satan looks very similar to the left winger Hollywood types and university professors and others like them that proclaim their Jewishness loudly and then promote the vilest evil in its name, calling it progressivism and Tikkun Olam.

I'd have to be blind not to acknowledge those people exist and to hate what they're doing.

The difference between me and a lot of people though is that I don't see that and then go on to say all Jews are bad. I believe that there are some very good Jewish people and that they shouldn't be condemned along with the bad people.

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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2014, 04:32:00 PM »
I think it's a spoof (the original name "Beth El" means house of God) name Chaim has used on some left wing auto-antisemitic temple or synagogue in NY.


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Re: Antisemitic Ideology spreading on Conservative Blogs
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2014, 05:04:27 PM »
Most of the Jewish Voices for Peace  temples are temples of satan

Are you trying to be funny? These nazi bastards don't give a hoot about whether Jews are liberal or not. Do you think Hitler cared about which kind of Jews he was sending to the gas chambers? It is not funny to make such a foolish statement. They hate all Jews, not the ones who you hate.
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« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2014, 05:08:31 PM »
Mord,

If someone said to you 'Jews are cheap bastards' would you immediately assume they are talking about the liberal Jews only? If so you are exhibiting naivete. When the nazis said they wanted to round up all the Jews and burn them in ovens a lot of Jews thought 'Hey, they are talking about THOSE Jews, you know, the ones with the big hooked noses.... But us hard working Jews, they don't want to annihilate us.'.

It is that kind of stupidity which led a lot of righteous Jews into the ovens.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2014, 05:24:49 PM »
Senator Jesse Helms admitted to Rabbi Kahane he didn't like Jews because they (i.e. the vocal leftist self hating Jews) always worked against him when he tried to help Israel.
Mord,

If someone said to you 'Jews are cheap bastards' would you immediately assume they are talking about the liberal Jews only? If so you are exhibiting naivete. When the nazis said they wanted to round up all the Jews and burn them in ovens a lot of Jews thought 'Hey, they are talking about THOSE Jews, you know, the ones with the big hooked noses.... But us hard working Jews, they don't want to annihilate us.'.

It is that kind of stupidity which led a lot of righteous Jews into the ovens.

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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2014, 05:37:04 PM »
Senator Jesse Helms admitted to Rabbi Kahane he didn't like Jews because they (i.e. the vocal leftist self hating Jews) always worked against him when he tried to help Israel.

But the comments which I am talking about are concerning all Jews... Not just liberal ones... So what is your point?

And the comment from Jesse Helms sounds antisemitic to me even though he claims he only doesn't like liberal Jews. Did Jesse Helms make similar comments about the non-Jewish liberals who vote against him? You realize that Jews are the minority in both parties and thus there are other voting blocks which are more important to politicians. So why is he so concerned about 'the Jews' and not about 'the liberal Catholics'?

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Antisemitic Ideology spreading on Conservative Blogs
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2014, 05:39:31 PM »
Maybe Pat Buchanan only hates the liberal Jews too? Ever think about that?

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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2014, 06:09:12 PM »
But the comments which I am talking about are concerning all Jews... Not just liberal ones... So what is your point?

And the comment from Jesse Helms sounds antisemitic to me even though he claims he only doesn't like liberal Jews. Did Jesse Helms make similar comments about the non-Jewish liberals who vote against him? You realize that Jews are the minority in both parties and thus there are other voting blocks which are more important to politicians. So why is he so concerned about 'the Jews' and not about 'the liberal Catholics'?

While the Jews are a minority in both parties,  the Jews collectively give a much higher % of campaign contributions than the % of Jewish eligible voters.    The major two political parties make a major effort to secure campaign contributions from Jews.   
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2014, 06:14:08 PM »
There is no excuse for Jew hated. And I don't believe antisemitism is related to which way a Jew votes.
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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2014, 06:23:49 PM »
There is no excuse for Jew hated. And I don't believe antisemitism is related to which way a Jew votes.

I certainly agree with your first sentence.

Regarding your second sentence,  I don't think there's a universal answer.   While most anti-Semites would categorize the Jews as one big unit instead of individuals,   there are some anti-Semites that look differentiate between the different types of Jews.   There's almost always still anti-Semitism on their part but they justify the anti-Semitism differently with politically Conservative Jews vs. Liberal Jews.    In the case of the politically Conservative Jews, such as the JTF Jews,  the term ' Israel firster'  is used by the anti-Semites.
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« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2014, 06:36:00 PM »
I believe Chaim and Rabbi Kahane's judgement of character. He wanted to help the Jews and Israel as he believed God commands him to do that. So even though it was wrong to generalise his opinion on "the Jews" he was basically a good honest man who really wanted to help Israel. You need to see both sides of the coin those liberal Jews love to look down on southern bible believers, they love to make fun of them and promote the false image that they are primitive bible thumping gun slinging racist morons.

But the comments which I am talking about are concerning all Jews... Not just liberal ones... So what is your point?

And the comment from Jesse Helms sounds antisemitic to me even though he claims he only doesn't like liberal Jews. Did Jesse Helms make similar comments about the non-Jewish liberals who vote against him? You realize that Jews are the minority in both parties and thus there are other voting blocks which are more important to politicians. So why is he so concerned about 'the Jews' and not about 'the liberal Catholics'?

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« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2014, 06:47:51 PM »
I believe Chaim and Rabbi Kahane's judgement of character. He wanted to help the Jews and Israel as he believed God commands him to do that. So even though it was wrong to generalise his opinion on "the Jews" he was basically a good honest man who really wanted to help Israel. You need to see both sides of the coin those liberal Jews love to look down on southern bible believers, they love to make fun of them and promote the false image that they are primitive bible thumping gun slinging racist morons.

I have heard that Jesse Helms was a friend of Chaims and a supporter of Israel. I do not hold it against him personally, but my complaint is the negative comments concerning Jews on many blogs... I hope to see more refuting of their claims, defense of the righteous Jews.

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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2014, 07:17:11 PM »
I believe Chaim and Rabbi Kahane's judgement of character. He wanted to help the Jews and Israel as he believed God commands him to do that. So even though it was wrong to generalise his opinion on "the Jews" he was basically a good honest man who really wanted to help Israel. You need to see both sides of the coin those liberal Jews love to look down on southern bible believers, they love to make fun of them and promote the false image that they are primitive bible thumping gun slinging racist morons.


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Re: Antisemitic Ideology spreading on Conservative Blogs
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2014, 07:57:43 PM »
My father was subject to some undeserved antisemitism when he drove through the South in his youth. My father was one of the most conservative Rebublicans I have ever known (valiantly defending Nixon till the end) who was called a 'Jew Boy' by a Highway Patrol because my dad had NY plates. Maybe they thought he was a liberal Jew but they were mistaken....

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2014, 09:47:45 PM »
Most American Jews are extreme liberals, not just slightly leaning to the left. So when people here read or hear a Jewish name it's reasonable to expect that person is probably a liberal unless they show otherwise. That doesn't mean that it's right to act in a hateful way of course because the assumption could be wrong.

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« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2014, 10:00:16 PM »
There is no excuse for Jew hated. And I don't believe antisemitism is related to which way a Jew votes.

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« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2014, 11:12:18 PM »
Maybe Pat Buchanan only hates the liberal Jews too? Ever think about that?

Why think about this when it isn't true?  Clearly contradicted by the facts..

Helms helped Chaim get kosher food when he was in jail.  And that was before political correctness of today where frum criminals are guaranteed glatt kosher.  Anyone claiming Helms was an antisemite is off his rocker.

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« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2014, 11:15:54 PM »
I don't like your nose but I like your money.

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