BARRY CHAMISH IS A JEWISH HERO

[Avraham David Ben Leib]

I am shocked and appalled at all the bashing of Barry Chamish on this forum.
These lies and distortions against Barry are truly disgusting.
Barry Chamish has literally put his life on the line by exposing the perfidy of the Israeli government and the evils of Labor Zionism.
If this is how you treat a Jewish hero, then maybe I need to re-evaluate my affiliation with JTF.

[judeanoncapta]

Barry Chamish is a psychopath.

I have heard him speak many times.

He is a complete lunatic.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Can't he have some crazy ideas and still love Eretz Israel?

[judeanoncapta]

Sure.

But if he loved Eretz Yisrael so much he wouldn't have intermarried and moved to Arizona.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I am not saying he isn't flawed, just that if he does sincerely care about the Jewish people I would be willing to forgive a lot.

I certainly am not a flawless human being.

[judeanoncapta]

Yeah, but his writings have this scent of lunacy to them.

I can smell it.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I don't doubt you. Chaim has even said he is insane. However, I'll take a lunatic with the right motives over a rational person who wants to destroy the Jewish people any day.

[judeanoncapta]

I don't doubt you. Chaim has even said he is insane. However, I'll take a lunatic with the right motives over a rational person who wants to destroy the Jewish people any day.

Agreed.

[Dexter]

BARRY CHAMISH is weird, how can he believe the things he saying, it's really weird .

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I have a Torah question for you, Judea, what does Torah/Talmud say about people with character or mental flaws but who really do love the Jewish nation?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

BARRY CHAMISH is weird, how can he believe the things he saying, it's really weird .

I guess he is like the preacher/televangelist Benny Hinn then. Hinn (an Israeli-born ethnic Armenian) tells his audiences that he will raise loved ones from the dead if they bring their casket up to the TV and send him a donation and that he derives magical powers from the bones of dead evangelists by spending time near their graves.

[judeanoncapta]

The only thing that comes to mind is the Talmudic dictum. "A lunatic is absolved from the Torah".

So, if he truly is insane, he doesn't have to keep the Torah.

That's all that comes to mind.

[newman]

The only thing that comes to mind is the Talmudic dictum. "A lunatic is absolved from the Torah".

So, if he truly is insane, he doesn't have to keep the Torah.

That's all that comes to mind.

I guess that lets neturei karta off the hook.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I don't respect him marrying a Gentile, at all. But I know that, to use an example I am familiar with, Christians who get involved with non-believers are a dime a dozen, and I can't just disown all of them (as much as I deplore this). If his heart is still with his people, like I said earlier, I can overlook it. It isn't like I am marrying him.    

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I guess that lets neturei karta off the hook.

I think they are willfully evil more than insane.

[judeanoncapta]

The only thing that comes to mind is the Talmudic dictum. "A lunatic is absolved from the Torah".

So, if he truly is insane, he doesn't have to keep the Torah.

That's all that comes to mind.

I guess that lets neturei karta off the hook.

Well, some of them are nuts and some are not.

[judeanoncapta]

One of them that I know is truly out of his mind.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I think they start off being evil, and become insane gradually as a result of their general depravity. (NK that is.)

[Mishmaat]

This whole thread must be some kind of a joke!

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Nebuchadnezzar, ys"vz (the Stalin of the Bible) was an extremely evil monster and tyrant that the L-rd struck insane. That might be a clue as to the mental status of NK/Satmar Jews.

[newman]

The only thing that comes to mind is the Talmudic dictum. "A lunatic is absolved from the Torah".

So, if he truly is insane, he doesn't have to keep the Torah.

That's all that comes to mind.

I guess that lets neturei karta off the hook.

Well, some of them are nuts and some are not.

In all seriousness, are there clear Talmudic destinctions between crazy, stupid and evil?

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

The only thing that comes to mind is the Talmudic dictum. "A lunatic is absolved from the Torah".

So, if he truly is insane, he doesn't have to keep the Torah.

That's all that comes to mind.

I guess that lets neturei karta off the hook.

Well, some of them are nuts and some are not.

In all seriousness, are there clear Talmudic destinctions between crazy, stupid and evil?

Someone who is evil is the ultimate stupid person becuase of what awaits him in the next worls for sure.( maybe sooner).
 yes, crazy is a disease where one doesnt have a choice, evil and stupid is a choice.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

In all truth I think that many people who are "stark, raving mad" are demon-possessed.

[judeanoncapta]

The only thing that comes to mind is the Talmudic dictum. "A lunatic is absolved from the Torah".

So, if he truly is insane, he doesn't have to keep the Torah.

That's all that comes to mind.

I guess that lets neturei karta off the hook.

Well, some of them are nuts and some are not.

In all seriousness, are there clear Talmudic destinctions between crazy, stupid and evil?

Yes, you're certainly not absolved from the Torah if you're stupid or evil.

The basic definition of crazy is someone who destroys what you give to him.

Which I guess makes the entire Jewish people insaen for destroying what G-d gave us and giving it to the Arabs.

[newman]

The only thing that comes to mind is the Talmudic dictum. "A lunatic is absolved from the Torah".

So, if he truly is insane, he doesn't have to keep the Torah.

That's all that comes to mind.

I guess that lets neturei karta off the hook.

Well, some of them are nuts and some are not.

In all seriousness, are there clear Talmudic destinctions between crazy, stupid and evil?

Someone who is evil is the ultimate stupid person becuase of what awaits him in the next worls for sure.( maybe sooner).
 yes, crazy is a disease where one doesnt have a choice, evil and stupid is a choice.

I phrased that question badly.

I mean in the case of a really twisted self-hater who thinks EY should be surrendered to arabs and Jews should assimilate and not keep the mitzvot.......

Is he cosidered:
1/ stupid for not understanding the Devine election of the Jews?

2/ Evil for wanting to destroy the Jews as a nation?

Or 3/  crazy because of 2000 years of diaspora and anti-semitism making him a self-hater in the first place?