Fibro girl.
Thank you for one of the only respectful posts.
You asked what I think about the hospital story.
This is what I think.
I think that woman is already brimming with hate since she was a child. One kindness won't reverse that. Notice what she said....you're on my land...one cup of water won't change that.
So there wasn't any hate coming from the act of giving her the water. the hate was there. and the water she's saying was insignificant.
So I dont think me giving water will breed more hate. I think if i gave it out like a whiney jewish aplogist that might make them lose respect for jews and hate them more.
but if i give it out as a strong believer in G-d and the Bible who won't budge his beliefs...and who is just doing G-d's will to help his children. i promsise some will respect that. it will certainly be a n experience with a jew they've never ever had and won't soon forget that's for sure.
I think Lubab might be only asking to debate. I want to answer him seriously.
I want to answer Point 3 first.
Lubab: Have you actually lived longterm in a Muslim country?
Or spoken to a lot of people who lived in those countries prior to 48?
Bear in mind that going to visit these places as a visitor giving aid is different than living alongside them longterm.... under Muslim rule.
Actually on the ground here in Tel Aviv, most of us ordinary people *do* get along. I see no reason why that can't be done in Gaza, if that place was annexed and the Arab population reduced by compensated emigration.
Quote from: Lubab on July 12, 2015, 11:10:43 PM
Point #1
... Will they hate Jews MORE if a Jew gives their children water?
Yes. Definitely.
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Moshe Feiglin wrote about the topic and said why they would hate us more.
He has written a few times about an Israeli leftist who accompanied an Arab woman from Gaza in an Israeli hospital to help her. Here is one article on it:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12907#.VaRUhZvfrEgI would like to know what you think about it.
There is actually a case of an Arab woman in Gaza who was given water, free treatment in an Israeli hospital, who after she got well tried to blow up the hsopital.
Quote from: Lubab on July 12, 2015, 11:10:43 PM
Point #2
Is Israel really in so much danger?
When I was with JTF I believed that israel is in great danger. they are surrounded by enemies from all sides who want to push them into the sea, and have said they wanted to do so. And tried to do so several times.
If Israel was in zero danger and total peace, I would still be a right winger and not want to live under Muslim rule.
The purpose of Israel is not just peace and security.
The purpose is to build a Jerusalem. Not just physically but to "perfect the world". I interpret that as to build a great country where people behave well to one another, invent things that help the world generally, like water irrigation techniques that green the desert for example, be a good example to the world. To have a spiritual connection to G-d which can only be done in our land.
Actually I am not even religious. I don't think we have achieved all of this yet but we will and must carry on trying.
All of this is my Feiglinite interpretation as I am not really a JTF'er. I wish Chaim would join Feiglin's movement too.