Bernie Sanders: “Israel is the cause of Middle East strife”

[Shlomo]

http://jtf.org/bernie-sanders-israel-is-the-cause-of-middle-east-strife/

[angryChineseKahanist]

Worst enemy of the Jews: self-hating Jews.
Self-hating-Jew should be a new word.

[syyuge]

Why is he with the muslamics

[eb22]

Why is he with the muslamics

Dearborn is the Muslim Capital of the United States.

The fact that a significant number of Muslims are supporting Bernie Sanders for President is all one needs to know about how Bernie Sanders views Israel.

[NoMosqueHere]

Sanders is a jerk, but he's smart enough to know that most jews would support him no matter what he says about Israel.  Obama knows this too.   Jews, as usual, are their own sickness.   Young jews know this sickness well, instinctively if not intellectually.   That's why most non orthodox jews are inter marrying and fleeing the faith in droves. 

[Rational Jew]

Dearborn is the Muslim Capital of the United States.

The fact that a significant number of Muslims are supporting Bernie Sanders for President is all one needs to know about how Bernie Sanders views Israel.

Dearborn is also a hometown of American Nazi propagandist Henry ford ysv.

[Shofet]

Sanders is a jerk, but he's smart enough to know that most jews would support him no matter what he says about Israel.  Obama knows this too.   Jews, as usual, are their own sickness.   Young jews know this sickness well, instinctively if not intellectually.   That's why most non orthodox jews are inter marrying and fleeing the faith in droves.

Frankly I no longer blame young American Jews for this.  Ashkenazi culture started the slow decline of the Jewish people.

I can't even find Jewish women in my area, and I can't afford to move. And even if I could find one,  most American Jewish women get put through 4 years of socialist brainwashing at the University.

Abortion is legal in Israel.  They kill about 30,000 Jewish babies every year. And because of our disgusting dependency on America we are about to get nuked.

Arab/leftist propaganda has worked.  People actually think the Palestinians are native to the region and the Jews are colonialist. Literally 2 minutes on Google disapproves this but it doesn't matter.

It's a failure of Jewish leadership,  Jewish families and Zionism. We have abandoned the key ideals of Zionism. Mainly independence and self reliance by whoring ourselves out to America's Christian right.  A group of people who believe we are destined to burn in hell.  Some friends right?

We have only ourselves to blame.  I've gotten so sick of the current situation I've been thinking of throwing in the hat.

Get married to a nice hillbilly woman and have a bunch of little redneck babies. They can wear cute little camo clothes and call me "Pa".

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Frankly I no longer blame young American Jews for this.  Ashkenazi culture started the slow decline of the Jewish people.

I can't even find Jewish women in my area, and I can't afford to move. And even if I could find one,  most American Jewish women get put through 4 years of socialist brainwashing at the University.

Abortion is legal in Israel.  They kill about 30,000 Jewish babies every year. And because of our disgusting dependency on America we are about to get nuked.

Arab/leftist propaganda has worked.  People actually think the Palestinians are native to the region and the Jews are colonialist. Literally 2 minutes on Google disapproves this but it doesn't matter.

It's a failure of Jewish leadership,  Jewish families and Zionism. We have abandoned the key ideals of Zionism. Mainly independence and self reliance by whoring ourselves out to America's Christian right.  A group of people who believe we are destined to burn in hell.  Some friends right?

We have only ourselves to blame.  I've gotten so sick of the current situation I've been thinking of throwing in the hat.

Get married to a nice hillbilly woman and have a bunch of little redneck babies. They can wear cute little camo clothes and call me "Pa".

Are you orthodox, or have you been brainwashed to not observe Shabbat and follow halacha?  I am wondering based on your comments where you stand.

[Lisa]

I have one quibble with your post. 

American Jews for the most part, have not whored out to the Christian right.  If they had, they would not have voted Obama en masse.  These conservative Christian politicians who voice their support of Israel against the fakestinians are not doing it to win over Jewish voters.  They do it to score points with their right wing conservative Christian base.  Most of the American Jews view these conservatives as almost the equivalent of nazis, and will never vote for them.  I think that's why so many of them are liberal. 

And I'm saying this as a Jew myself, my family being Middle Eastern. 

Frankly I no longer blame young American Jews for this.  Ashkenazi culture started the slow decline of the Jewish people.

I can't even find Jewish women in my area, and I can't afford to move. And even if I could find one,  most American Jewish women get put through 4 years of socialist brainwashing at the University.

Abortion is legal in Israel.  They kill about 30,000 Jewish babies every year. And because of our disgusting dependency on America we are about to get nuked.

Arab/leftist propaganda has worked.  People actually think the Palestinians are native to the region and the Jews are colonialist. Literally 2 minutes on Google disapproves this but it doesn't matter.

It's a failure of Jewish leadership,  Jewish families and Zionism. We have abandoned the key ideals of Zionism. Mainly independence and self reliance by whoring ourselves out to America's Christian right.  A group of people who believe we are destined to burn in hell.  Some friends right?

We have only ourselves to blame.  I've gotten so sick of the current situation I've been thinking of throwing in the hat.

Get married to a nice hillbilly woman and have a bunch of little redneck babies. They can wear cute little camo clothes and call me "Pa".

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I have one quibble with your post. 

American Jews for the most part, have not whored out to the Christian right.  If they had, they would not have voted Obama en masse.  These conservative Christian politicians who voice their support of Israel against the fakestinians are not doing it to win over Jewish voters.  They do it to score points with their right wing conservative Christian base.  Most of the American Jews view these conservatives as almost the equivalent of nazis, and will never vote for them.  I think that's why so many of them are liberal. 

And I'm saying this as a Jew myself, my family being Middle Eastern.

That's because this guy is a troublemaking troll who is trying to divide the forum.

[Rubystars]

I'm laughing because the same idiotic crap that made me take a long hiatus from this forum is still going on, just with different user names. 

[ChabadKahanist]

Worst enemy of the Jews: self-hating Jews.
Self-hating-Jew should be a new word.

Self hating JINO's (Jews In Name Only would be more appropriate!!!!

[Dr. Dan]

No, Jews like Bernie Sanders are the cause of antisemitism as well as MIddle East strife...and quite frankly...the majority are some variation of Bernie...Gd have mercy on us all.

[Shofet]

Are you orthodox, or have you been brainwashed to not observe Shabbat and follow halacha?  I am wondering based on your comments where you stand.

I keep Shabbat. And I have no interest in dividing the forum.  I'm also not a troll. I'd like to think I have a sense of humor though.

I'm frustrated because I feel like our back is against the wall and I was hoping to connect with other Jews who share my concern.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

No, Jews like Bernie Sanders are the cause of antisemitism as well as MIddle East strife...and quite frankly...the majority are some variation of Bernie...Gd have mercy on us all.

Maybe so but there is no excuse for anti-Semitism, ever.

[Israel Chai]

I keep Shabbat. And I have no interest in dividing the forum.  I'm also not a troll. I'd like to think I have a sense of humor though.

I'm frustrated because I feel like our back is against the wall and I was hoping to connect with other Jews who share my concern.

Intermarriage is a mortal sin. I agree with everything else in your post, but that last line makes it all into an excuse to spit in Hashem's face. We've had big Rabbis that marry immodest women that make their life hell, and stick with them, because at least it keeps them from sins.

I share your other concerns, as for taking the "easy way out", which, by the way, ends 99% of the time in painful divorce, by throwing your heritage and family line in the garbage, I am against you in every way possible.

[Dr. Dan]

Maybe so but there is no excuse for anti-Semitism, ever.

There is never an excuse to hate Gd's chosen people.  Whether Jews are righteous, successful, evil, rich, or poor, anti semitism will always be there.

But it certainly doesn't help when there are Jews who think they need to change for the worse to be liked by anti semites. 

As anti semitism will always exist until Moshiach comes, Jews need to behave like the way Gd has wanted us to behave all along despite anti semitism.  Any variation to assimilate into something else or to join the enemy only makes matters worse.

[Shofet]

Intermarriage is a mortal sin. I agree with everything else in your post, but that last line makes it all into an excuse to spit in Hashem's face. We've had big Rabbis that marry immodest women that make their life hell, and stick with them, because at least it keeps them from sins.

I share your other concerns, as for taking the "easy way out", which, by the way, ends 99% of the time in painful divorce, by throwing your heritage and family line in the garbage, I am against you in every way possible.

I wasn't serious about marrying a hillbilly....

[Debbie Shafer]

Bernie is totally anti-Israel...he betrays his own people.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I keep Shabbat. And I have no interest in dividing the forum.  I'm also not a troll. I'd like to think I have a sense of humor though.

I'm frustrated because I feel like our back is against the wall and I was hoping to connect with other Jews who share my concern.

Ok so you are shomer shabbos so why don't you offer to help your fellow travellers?  You went to a JCC and they said no but I know for a fact most of the orthodox Jewish groups are very open to those sorts of things.   Are they beneath your help?

When you define the whole Jewish world by a jcc, that's a misrepresentation and insult.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Ok so you are shomer shabbos so why don't you offer to help your fellow travellers?  You went to a JCC and they said no but I know for a fact most of the orthodox Jewish groups are very open to those sorts of things.   Are they beneath your help?

When you define the whole Jewish world by a jcc, that's a misrepresentation and insult.

The guy is a troll, there is no reasoning with him. This is Alexander Sporn.

[Lisa]

I don't think it's Alexander Sporn. 

At least he kind of introduced himself, which is more than Sporn ever did. 

[Shofet]

Ok so you are shomer shabbos so why don't you offer to help your fellow travellers?  You went to a JCC and they said no but I know for a fact most of the orthodox Jewish groups are very open to those sorts of things.   Are they beneath your help?

When you define the whole Jewish world by a jcc, that's a misrepresentation and insult.

I have no problem insulting you. If needed I'll do so directly.

I obviously didn't liken to entire Jewish world to a community center. I'm not even sure you can do that. How on Earth did you derive that from my statement? I said I went to my local JCC. I don't know, If you were looking for groups of Jews in your area wouldn't that be a good place to start? I sure wasn't going to waste my time with the local Reform. Most of them are probably voting for the people that are about to get us nuked.

No. They are not beneath me. In fact they aren't around me. In all fairness my state doesn't have a strong Jewish population. So I'm not working with much to begin with. I did try the local Chabad.

I didn't even bother with the reform.



You know what? Forget it. Another group of do nothing American Jews. I assumed a "task force" actually had some "force" to it. I came here for community direction and I have been called a troll too many times to count. Did it ever dawn on you that I'm actually serious about standing up to those who are literally gunning our people down in the streets? Or is the very notion of armed self defense so foreign to you all that you instantly assume I'm an internet troll. Descendants of those who ignored Jabotinsky eh? And I actually served in the IDF. Nahal Brigade GDUD 50th. I'm not a troll.

At my age it's right in my face. At every college campus. I read about it everyday too. And I just couldn't stand to sit around and do nothing anymore. I just thought, that maybe I could do something positive. Follow in the JDL's footsteps or something. I wish I was half the man Irv Rubin or Rabbi Kahane was (HY"D). But I can't even get anyone to show up.

Where are the ACTUAL Kahanists? Or is that just something you put in your usernames?

I really feel helpless. I think the foundation for another Holocaust is being laid right now in America. With the rise of this crazy neo marxist left. The American Kapos are pouring the cement for it. Israel is going to be under threat of nuclear attack due to it's reliance on America.

And you guys are whining on the Internet.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I have no problem insulting you. If needed I'll do so directly. 

Huh?  What is your problem exactly?  What did I ever do to you?

You show up here and start slinging (threats of some kind? I dunno, was that a threat or something?) and generalizing about Jews and how no one's a kahanist but you.   Makes you sound like a troll, buddy.

Or is the very notion of armed self defense so foreign to you all that you instantly assume I'm an internet troll. Descendants of those who ignored Jabotinsky eh? And I actually served in the IDF. Nahal Brigade GDUD 50th. I'm not a troll. 

If you are not a troll, then stop making troll comments such as this.   None of us are foreign to the notion of armed self defense, yet here you are characterizing the forum that way.  That proves you have no idea what this place is about.   So why not find out what we're about instead of attacking.

Where are the ACTUAL Kahanists? Or is that just something you put in your usernames?

Why make comments like this?

And you guys are whining on the Internet.

And you aren't?



Look buddy, the orthodox shul I attend has self defense classes and many people in the community are fond of guns.  Maybe you  need to get out more and see there is more than one type of Jew out there.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

I obviously didn't liken to entire Jewish world to a community center. I'm not even sure you can do that. How on Earth did you derive that from my statement? I said I went to my local JCC. I don't know, If you were looking for groups of Jews in your area wouldn't that be a good place to start?

I don't know.  I'm a Jew and I've never stepped foot in a JCC.   Isn't a JCC some kind of reform bullcrap?