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Ive always wondered because we have the right message and have been right predicting major events.. yet we still only get very few people joining us each day...

Why does StørmFrønt a white nationalist community discussion board get loads of members and are able to become a mass movement?

I know they are racist but what is so appealing about them?... after all what they say is very impolitically correct

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IT is definitely something to think about because after all i would be interested why we are only getting 3-4 people on the english forum..

Does anyone have any ideas so that we can get more people at a faster rate?

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I wouldn't be surprised of StørmFrønt is full of fake people posting under multiple names, to a certain extent.

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Because the Klan and the Nazis were mass movements at certain times in history.

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Also they chat a lot about general things that are off the topic, this appeals to a great number of people who don't care about any political ideas and just want to talk to people.

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Also, in Western societies it is very hard to find ways and groups that think in politically incorrect ways, so people who can't find an outlet for their beliefs end up getting sucked into racist hate groups. 
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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Also, in Western societies it is very hard to find ways and groups that think in politically incorrect ways, so people who can't find an outlet for their beliefs end up getting sucked into racist hate groups. 

Exactly!

For people sick and tired of PC, liberal, anti-gun, anti-western, anti-religious BS the WN groups are 99% of the groups they'll come across.

We need to have more words like 'white guilt' or 'illegals out' on our main page so more people trip across us.

I found JTF by googling 'stinking arabs'.

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They have been around alot longer
Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
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I posted this elsewhere on the forum, in the white supremecist nazi section.  But I think it applies here.

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One thing about StørmFrønt is that a curious person can just google "white pride" and up comes StørmFrønt.  That's how I discovered it.  Don't get me wrong, I'm against StørmFrønt and have ideologically matured.

There needs to be good buzz words attached to JTF that so that it can easily be discovered.

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Very good point
Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
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I discovered JTF from a link on a "free speech forum" (turned out not to live up to that).  At first I was skeptical, but after seeing videos, I knew it was the real deal.

Finally a right-wing organization that tells the truth about racial reality and opposes nazism at the same time.  Finally an organization that has serious desires to be a mass movement, and recognizes the of Israel as a strategic ally.

Google never brought me to JTF.
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Real right zionists maybe a title like that
Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
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Well from what  I know, you can enter "meta tags" that appear in the search engine.  I believe, I'm not 100% sure about this. And you could add a bunch of them.  "Zionism," "race realism," "occidental," "right wing," etc.  I admit I am a novice when it comes to working with search engines,  but mastery of this is key.  You need basic words that you believe your target market will look for.

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To be honest RYF, I think the main attraction is by ignorant people that, for correct reasons, are tired and disgusted with all the "Love everybody else but yourself" propaganda.  Everywhere one looks it is "embrace diversity", "multiculturalism", affirmative action, race-culture rationalism and the decline of the west due to Marxist/Socialist indoctriation to "hate whitey". 

I answered a question on another thread that dealt with so-called racism.  In today's egalitarian elitist guided world of immense propaganda an Asian, Black, Arab, Muslim, Hindu, Buddist etc. are all encouraged to have pride and respect for their own race, culture and faith.  For example Black "natioanlism" or true Racism is incouraged if not openly promoted.  Black Power groups or Blacks, logically wishing to be with other blacks is acceptable and encouraged, to which I have nothing against and too am fond of.  Now the minute that same logic is directed to a White: Jew or Christian respectively it is automatically a debate over an ineptness of understanding and fraudulantly contorted ideology of "racism". 

So logically when one continually sees propaganda for white women to have sexual relations with black men or anyone other than a "visible minority" to hold self respect, pride for ones ethnicity or heritage one is quite illogically deemed a "racist" or a "hater".  So these groups that cater, logically, to White pride or separatism are logical and doing the right thing but where they go wrong in my opinion is that they combine the illogic of ultra leftist thought/ideology into their movements which ends up bolstering hate and not logic and factually based reasoning. 

I hope that is a good depiction or answer to your question.  Kol tov achi..
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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I would say this anti-majoritarian sentiment is a substantial reason.  This is only really happening in occidental countries (including Israel with the Palestinians).

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"Why is it that a racist organization like StørmFrønt can get thosands of people?"

Answer:

Because there are now, and have always been, hundreds of thousands, if not millions and millions, of Caucasian people in Europe and America who share as their only political ideology that of intense hatred combined with an equally intense self-imposed ignorance and disdain for education.

Thanks to the internet revolution, this broadly based but fragmented group need only to conduct a search for "white" "race" "nationalist" to find their central clubhouse in cyberspace.

Compare this reality to that of the Jews...perhaps the tiniest of minority groups everywhere they are found, and so contentious and disorganized that it's almost impossible to find any two Jews who can agree on anything.

Add to this a "loss of national and personal identity" resulting from 2,000 years of Exile.

If there is any one truly uniting perception the Jews all share, it is undoubtedly a constant sense of insecurity.

The above subject is worthy of a lengthy dissertation, but if I can offer a solution to the paltry membership on the forum, I suggest the following:

-Eliminate the posts and threads which are not centered on the teachings of Rabbi Meir Kahane.

(I challenge the mods to go through the entire forum, and count the entirety of posts & threads which are "race rants" vs the number of posts and threads dealing only with Kahanist Judaism and questions/discussions surrounding it.
If Kahanist theory & practice can not in and of itself attract a following of Jews and Gentiles to the forum, then it may be the case that reality is ugly and disappointing.
After all; one would think that with the events of the Nazi Intifada still ongoing, every Israeli Jew would be in armed Kahanist revolt by now... .
Yet, what we see is the exact opposite...an en masse psychological reversion to pre-Zionist shtetl mentality; afraid to fight back; psychologically dependent on Gentiles for approbation and for protection.)


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That group attracts a lot of Jew haters from across the globe. It's not limited in scope to Nazis from America. In fact, if you spend about 10 minutes on there you'll notice that many of the posters are from Europe, yemach shemam vizichram. It's easy to use the Jew as a convenient scapegoat to blame for the black epidemic, legal and illegal immigration, subjugation of the Arab occupiers in Israel, AIDS and avian bird flu.

Plus, those pathetic Satanic losers don't believe in the Tanakh. We have many Bible-believing Christians who need to be exposed to our message. We have the potential to grow exponentially if we target that specific demographic.

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"Why is it that a racist organization like StørmFrønt can get thosands of people?"

Answer:

Because there are now, and have always been, hundreds of thousands, if not millions and millions, of Caucasian people in Europe and America who share as their only political ideology that of intense hatred combined with an equally intense self-imposed ignorance and disdain for education.

Thanks to the internet revolution, this broadly based but fragmented group need only to conduct a search for "white" "race" "nationalist" to find their central clubhouse in cyberspace.

Compare this reality to that of the Jews...perhaps the tiniest of minority groups everywhere they are found, and so contentious and disorganized that it's almost impossible to find any two Jews who can agree on anything.

Add to this a "loss of national and personal identity" resulting from 2,000 years of Exile.

If there is any one truly uniting perception the Jews all share, it is undoubtedly a constant sense of insecurity.

The above subject is worthy of a lengthy dissertation, but if I can offer a solution to the paltry membership on the forum, I suggest the following:

-Eliminate the posts and threads which are not centered on the teachings of Rabbi Meir Kahane.

(I challenge the mods to go through the entire forum, and count the entirety of posts & threads which are "race rants" vs the number of posts and threads dealing only with Kahanist Judaism and questions/discussions surrounding it.
If Kahanist theory & practice can not in and of itself attract a following of Jews and Gentiles to the forum, then it may be the case that reality is ugly and disappointing.
After all; one would think that with the events of the Nazi Intifada still ongoing, every Israeli Jew would be in armed Kahanist revolt by now... .
Yet, what we see is the exact opposite...an en masse psychological reversion to pre-Zionist shtetl mentality; afraid to fight back; psychologically dependent on Gentiles for approbation and for protection.)



Very insightful answer. As usual.

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Agreed. 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Bigot rednecks are a statistical probability in any population.  There will always be a few, but they are the minority.  If we compare a forum like StørmFrønt to a forum like this one, StørmFrønt is not nearly as active.  Basically, StørmFrønt is a collection of outcast degenerates.

Also, all the kkk members, neo-nazis, skinheads gangs, etc, are likely to have their members posting there.
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Antisemitism is a one of the most popular past times and never seemed to lose any of its steam.

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Antisemitism is a one of the most popular past times and never seemed to lose any of its steam.
And never will..... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Antisemitism is a one of the most popular past times and never seemed to lose any of its steam.
And never will..... 

Agreed. By the way, you write EXTREMELY well! Very impressive!