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HiWarp:
--- Quote from: qa4383 on September 03, 2007, 01:18:40 PM ---
--- Quote ---If someone is coming to murder your family and you murder him, preventing the slaughter of your entire family, you are definitely not hurting yourself.
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I actually am hurting myself...spiritually. If somebody attacks me or my family, of course my animal instinct will take over and I will go on the defensive, and I will do what needs to be done. But, I will not take pleasure in this, attacking him will not make me feel good.
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You've stated what you would do if someone came to kill you or your family. What would you do if they only wanted to subjugate you and have you live as a second class citizen with the threat of physical violence or murder if you did not adhere to their wishes?
qa4383:
--- Quote ---You've stated what you would do if someone came to kill you or your family. What would you do if they only wanted to subjugate you and have you live as a second class citizen with the threat of physical violence or murder if you did not adhere to their wishes?
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Fair enough...if someone were to come into my house and tell me how to live, I would fight back.
Having said that...I'm not going to go into somebody else's house and tell them how to live, no matter how much I disagree with them. That would be hypocritical.
My post regarding slavery was to show how moral can change over time. Once upon a time, slavery was completely acceptable. If you fail to see that, than I don't know what to say.
I fully understand the difference between killing and murder. In my opinion, both leave you spiritually desolate.
I'm sure you don't realize it, but as an outsider looking in, the mentality on this forum is just as destructive and angry as any radical Islamic forum. I am sure that if you were to peruse a radical Islamic site, you will see posts very similar to the ones that I have been reading here.
I am sorry to say, (WARNING this is going to [censored] you off, an I"m sure that the insults are going to fly)
Your way of thinking is the same as your enemies. To me, this mentality is just as dangerous as radical Islam.
It is this mentality that is going to bring about WWIII. And I think we all know how destructive this war will be if it happens.
You cannot fight fire with fire... that only makes more fire. One fights fire with water.
HiWarp:
--- Quote from: qa4383 on September 03, 2007, 09:57:01 PM ---
--- Quote ---You've stated what you would do if someone came to kill you or your family. What would you do if they only wanted to subjugate you and have you live as a second class citizen with the threat of physical violence or murder if you did not adhere to their wishes?
--- End quote ---
Fair enough...if someone were to come into my house and tell me how to live, I would fight back.
Having said that...I'm not going to go into somebody else's house and tell them how to live, no matter how much I disagree with them. That would be hypocritical.
My post regarding slavery was to show how moral can change over time. Once upon a time, slavery was completely acceptable. If you fail to see that, than I don't know what to say.
I fully understand the difference between killing and murder. In my opinion, both leave you spiritually desolate.
I'm sure you don't realize it, but as an outsider looking in, the mentality on this forum is just as destructive and angry as any radical Islamic forum. I am sure that if you were to peruse a radical Islamic site, you will see posts very similar to the ones that I have been reading here.
I am sorry to say, (WARNING this is going to [censored] you off, an I"m sure that the insults are going to fly)
Your way of thinking is the same as your enemies. To me, this mentality is just as dangerous as radical Islam.
It is this mentality that is going to bring about WWIII. And I think we all know how destructive this war will be if it happens.
You cannot fight fire with fire... that only makes more fire. One fights fire with water.
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How would you have fought WWII?
qa4383:
--- Quote ---How would you have fought WWII?
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Good question...I suppose fighting fire with fire does bring about momentary peace. However does it really solve anything? If it did would we be in this predicament? Wasn't WWII an offshoot of WWI? And these new war against terror...do you not think that the formation of Israel in Arab territory has anything to do with it?
(Now before you all jump down my throat...yes, I believe that there were Palestinians living there before 1948. Just becuase they were in national limbo and didn't have a flag doesn't mean that they weren't people living there.)
There's a reason why radical Islam hates the west so much and it's not just becuase they hate our freedom and it's not because they're naturally evil.
BTW HiWarp...thank you for engaging in a logical conversation with me. I appreciate not being insulted.
qa4383:
Holy crap...I can't believe it. You people won't even let me write the word Pal....ian. It gets replaced with 'PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis'
I am truly appalled. What ever happened to free speech? And you wonder why they won't recognize Israel.
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