sure enough, my rabbi talked abou homosexuality and Brittany Spears

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

a rapist would feel more complete by raping a hoot blonde girl, does it make it okay? after all he wants to be made complete and satisfied.

raping is completely different than wearing t'fillin...come on...just admit that in your tradition, women do not need to do those things...but say oh well with my tradition...

In my tradition our women dont want to do those things, girls understand their roles (as wives and mothers) and Im happy to say their are many nice girls. Their are also some bad girls who imitate the American lifestyle around them, but no one comes to change mitzvot.

[Dr. Dan]

why do you keep saying fence? its not a fence, Im sorry but I think you should only get involved with an orthodox Rabbi and group and leave the deformed type of mindset. If you want to get religioud at least talk to a real Rabbi and ask to be taught and aided a step at a time, its a lot more dangerous to be involved in the deform movement. ( thank G-d in Israel their isnt this drek).

i'm actually only involved wtih JTF to learn about Judaism...

and for a politically incorrect movement you seem to get offended by the way I pray and feel about certain things...  I"m not telling anyone to do things the way i do them..I'm just saying, there are certain things that I do and I don't mind it when others do it a certain way also..

It's not about life or death unless soeone doesn't look both ways when they cross the street...but if someone has their own way of praying to Gd, who are you to say that they are wrong the way they are doing it?  IF someone's heart is in the right place, don't laugh at them if it is completely opposite to your tradition...that's messed up.

[Dr. Dan]

a rapist would feel more complete by raping a hoot blonde girl, does it make it okay? after all he wants to be made complete and satisfied.

raping is completely different than wearing t'fillin...come on...just admit that in your tradition, women do not need to do those things...but say oh well with my tradition...

In my tradition our women dont want to do those things, girls understand their roles (as wives and mothers) and Im happy to say their are many nice girls. Their are also some bad girls who imitate the American lifestyle around them, but no one comes to change mitzvot.

My barber is Bukharian and i have several bukharian friends who are shomer shabbat, shomer kashrut, really great people...but the women in particular...the way they roll their eyes when we talk about the women sitting in the back row of the shul and not being able to participate in the congregation to pray.. Come on, women want to pray outloud too...

[jdl4ever]

Women can pray aloud with the rest of the congregation when they are singing a tune in most Young Israel type Shuls as far as I know.  The Charedim don't allow this in their Shuls. 

[Dr. Dan]

I also heard women can't put on t'fillin because it can cause tum'a to the t'fillin if they are in their period.

but what if they are wear a tampon or a sanitary napkin?  Back in the day, they didn't have those things and i can understand that rule of women not being near the Torah or anything with Gd's name on it.

[jdl4ever]

It's also Minhag/custom which is Torah.  Tefillin are only made for men since the Torah only uses the male tense when it says to put on Tefillin.  The Jewish custom for over 3000 years is that women never put on Tefillin and one who breaks Jewish custom is breaking a hole in the Torah. 

[Dr. Dan]

It's also Minhag/custom which is Torah.  Tefillin are only made for men since the Torah only uses the male tense when it says to put on Tefillin.  The Jewish custom for over 3000 years is that women never put on Tefillin and one who breaks Jewish custom is breaking a hole in the Torah. 

I can accept that explanation...so far i don't know a single woman that wants to wear tfillin.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

a rapist would feel more complete by raping a hoot blonde girl, does it make it okay? after all he wants to be made complete and satisfied.

raping is completely different than wearing t'fillin...come on...just admit that in your tradition, women do not need to do those things...but say oh well with my tradition...

In my tradition our women dont want to do those things, girls understand their roles (as wives and mothers) and Im happy to say their are many nice girls. Their are also some bad girls who imitate the American lifestyle around them, but no one comes to change mitzvot.

My barber is Bukharian and i have several bukharian friends who are shomer shabbat, shomer kashrut, really great people...but the women in particular...the way they roll their eyes when we talk about the women sitting in the back row of the shul and not being able to participate in the congregation to pray.. Come on, women want to pray outloud too...

My dad's a barber too, Whats your barbers name, and where do you go?

[Dr. Dan]

a rapist would feel more complete by raping a hoot blonde girl, does it make it okay? after all he wants to be made complete and satisfied.

raping is completely different than wearing t'fillin...come on...just admit that in your tradition, women do not need to do those things...but say oh well with my tradition...

In my tradition our women dont want to do those things, girls understand their roles (as wives and mothers) and Im happy to say their are many nice girls. Their are also some bad girls who imitate the American lifestyle around them, but no one comes to change mitzvot.

My barber is Bukharian and i have several bukharian friends who are shomer shabbat, shomer kashrut, really great people...but the women in particular...the way they roll their eyes when we talk about the women sitting in the back row of the shul and not being able to participate in the congregation to pray.. Come on, women want to pray outloud too...

My dad's a barber too, Whats your barbers name, and where do you go?

manhattan 27th st and 2nd ave.

[decimos]

Whats sad is the fact that you cant chose a synagogue to worship and hear Torah according to how you want it.{no disrespect there}.Consider me, I go to a synagogue to hear Torah and to talk to a learned Jew,all i get is some  self hating Gentile on gaurd and will not let me in to hear.....I tell him im a Noahide,he doesnt have a clue.he lies to my face,and im instructed to write a letter to the chairman of the Jewish Community.I go past every day to see if i can catch some 1 when they are there. Im always greeted by some xian or Mormon or some deluded fool he will not let me enter.YES,im annoyed! all i want is to hear the Torah and embrace it,feel it {spiritualy},so I can say to Hashem.I hear your words.All i want is to cling to a Jew and say I hear you know of G-d,I would follow.Alas,it never happens.if I were a Jew id get with the black gear and grow my earl locks but im not,but I still cant get to hear Torah and learn,so if any of you can get a Rabbi to help me construct {saying why i should be allowed to enter} a letter i would appreciate it.

[Mstislav]

Danny, you say you like a good cleansing for Yom Kippur. And how do you expect to have this kawanna when you are praying in front of women, right next to women? It's a conservative synagogue, so I doubt they are dressing modestly. You're standing in front of the King of Kings; do you want that kind of distraction?

So women at Synagogue for the same purpose as men are a distraction? I thought you were Jewish, man, not a muslim. Who dresses immodestly at a place of worship? What is the Jewish definition (From the Orthodox sect) of modesty?

[Mstislav]

Are non Jews allowed into Synagogues? Can Noahides participate in the service? Which tradition and/or sect does not allow women to participate in the service?

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Are non Jews allowed into Synagogues? Can Noahides participate in the service? Which tradition and/or sect does not allow women to participate in the service?

Women are allowed but their is a Mehitza, a seperation made between men and women.

[Dominater96]

And since I'm a little bit both "observant" and "secular" and prefer this mode, can anyone in my boat suggest a temple that is not so liberal and with good conservative/Torah Jewish values in the northern NJ area? 

There's no such thing.  Just go to an Orthodox Shul.  You will not find Torah values anywhere else.

I guess i'm going ot have to stick with the "conservative" temples....I refuse to go anywhere that I can't sit with my mother or sister-in-laws or other women...It's fine if other's rather go to synogogues that separate the two..i prefer not to...

Men and women were seperated in the Holy Temple in Jerusalem.

Why should our little "Temples" be any different?

Thats actually not true. There was no Mechitza in the Beit Hamikdash,  only on Simchat Beit Hashoeva.

[Mstislav]

Someone in the conversion process to Judaism dies, can that person have a Jewish funeral?

[Mstislav]

So women at Synagogue for the same purpose as men are a distraction? I thought you were Jewish, man, not a muslim. Who dresses immodestly at a place of worship? What is the Jewish definition (From the Orthodox sect) of modesty?

Who dresses immodestly in a place of worship? I'm sorry, I really wish I knew the answer. I'll tell you what modesty isn't: Going to a house of worship with a a short, tight skirt and shirt exposing cleavage and shoulders. I include members of my own Synagogue in this as well. The purpose of a divider is not to keep women "in the back," but is to limit distractions while praying. Dressing immodestly was one thing the Gedolim were worried about.

Orthodox sect? The reason why Sephardic synagogues have the "orthodox" form of worship was because that's the way it always was until the reformists in Germany and Vienna spread their evil doctrine justifying the butchering of their faiths. Thank G-d these movements didn't penetrate the Sephardic synagogue, although their effects spread to the individuals.

Keeping women in the back, is it not possible for women to become distracted by the man in front of them? Gedolim? Has the rabbi not spoken to the congreation about dressing properly when attending synagogue and in their everyday lives?

[jdl4ever]

Whats sad is the fact that you cant chose a synagogue to worship and hear Torah according to how you want it.{no disrespect there}.Consider me, I go to a synagogue to hear Torah and to talk to a learned Jew,all i get is some  self hating Gentile on gaurd and will not let me in to hear.....I tell him im a Noahide,he doesnt have a clue.he lies to my face,and im instructed to write a letter to the chairman of the Jewish Community.I go past every day to see if i can catch some 1 when they are there. Im always greeted by some xian or Mormon or some deluded fool he will not let me enter.YES,im annoyed! all i want is to hear the Torah and embrace it,feel it {spiritualy},so I can say to Hashem.I hear your words.All i want is to cling to a Jew and say I hear you know of G-d,I would follow.Alas,it never happens.if I were a Jew id get with the black gear and grow my earl locks but im not,but I still cant get to hear Torah and learn,so if any of you can get a Rabbi to help me construct {saying why i should be allowed to enter} a letter i would appreciate it.

I agree that it must be a self hating synagague then.  Try another one.  What synagague has a guard?  None of the ones I go to have guards and no one stops you from walking in (just remember to walk into the men's side and not the woman's side (-:.  Either that or it was the high holidays where everyone pays for a seat to raise money for the Temple and many are full and won't let you in if you didn't buy a seat.  If all else fails than go to a Lubovitch synagague as they are really the only ones experienced in Noahidism, the rest of us are very new to seeing Noahides because it's been eons since we saw them before (it's a big miracle that righteous Noahides are emerging and a great sign for the future spiritual growth of mankind).  I still don't understand why aren't there Noahide places of worship?

[kahaneloyalist]

Women arent necessarily in the back, but there is a separation between men and women, since the Bimah is usually in the center often the men will surround the Bimah and the women will surround the men

[Dr. Dan]

Call me gay if you want, but things like that don't distract me, especially if it were my mother. She, by the way, dresses modestly.  Actually being separate from the women distracts me more because I want to see what's behind that current or in that divider..but that's me...

I will look into it for next year...I do need to talk to my parents and see what happens.

"I want to see what's behind that current or in that divider..but that's me..." -- You just admitted to me that a divider has served you it's purpose.

I'm glad your mother dresses modestly when she goes to synagogue. Your mother and family is not the distraction I was mentioning though; I was talking about the other women surrounding you in your seating arrangment.

They shouldn't be...go according to your tradition..If every synogogue ends up separating the two, then fine..not a big deal..

Your tradition is separation of the sexes in the synagogue, Danny. "Ponder the years of each generation. Ask your father and let him tell you, and your grandfather, who will explain it." (Debarim 32:7)

listen, my point is that whether i'm separated or not, an image of a beautiful woman go into my brain while I pray...

Anyway...it doesn't matter...i can pray with a beautiful woman in my presence...some of you can't...

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Call me gay if you want, but things like that don't distract me, especially if it were my mother. She, by the way, dresses modestly.  Actually being separate from the women distracts me more because I want to see what's behind that current or in that divider..but that's me...

I will look into it for next year...I do need to talk to my parents and see what happens.

"I want to see what's behind that current or in that divider..but that's me..." -- You just admitted to me that a divider has served you it's purpose.

I'm glad your mother dresses modestly when she goes to synagogue. Your mother and family is not the distraction I was mentioning though; I was talking about the other women surrounding you in your seating arrangment.

They shouldn't be...go according to your tradition..If every synogogue ends up separating the two, then fine..not a big deal..

Your tradition is separation of the sexes in the synagogue, Danny. "Ponder the years of each generation. Ask your father and let him tell you, and your grandfather, who will explain it." (Debarim 32:7)

listen, my point is that whether i'm separated or not, an image of a beautiful woman go into my brain while I pray...

Anyway...it doesn't matter...i can pray with a beautiful woman in my presence...some of you can't...

Its not that we cant, its just that it isnt a good thing praying to G-d and even more asking G-d for forgiveness for sins such as looking at women and at the same time having an image of 1? Its like me telling G-d please forgive me for eating pork while eating some. - everyday and expecially on Yom Kippur we have to try our best to keep ourselves as pure as possible, and you are somewhat right that an image can pop into your mind while praying but thats usually in the beginning when you dont pray a lot, after sometime usually the less you think about things and the more you focus on prayer the less externel disturbences you get.

[Dr. Dan]

Call me gay if you want, but things like that don't distract me, especially if it were my mother. She, by the way, dresses modestly.  Actually being separate from the women distracts me more because I want to see what's behind that current or in that divider..but that's me...

I will look into it for next year...I do need to talk to my parents and see what happens.

"I want to see what's behind that current or in that divider..but that's me..." -- You just admitted to me that a divider has served you it's purpose.

I'm glad your mother dresses modestly when she goes to synagogue. Your mother and family is not the distraction I was mentioning though; I was talking about the other women surrounding you in your seating arrangment.

They shouldn't be...go according to your tradition..If every synogogue ends up separating the two, then fine..not a big deal..

Your tradition is separation of the sexes in the synagogue, Danny. "Ponder the years of each generation. Ask your father and let him tell you, and your grandfather, who will explain it." (Debarim 32:7)

listen, my point is that whether i'm separated or not, an image of a beautiful woman go into my brain while I pray...

Anyway...it doesn't matter...i can pray with a beautiful woman in my presence...some of you can't...

Its not that we cant, its just that it isnt a good thing praying to G-d and even more asking G-d for forgiveness for sins such as looking at women and at the same time having an image of 1? Its like me telling G-d please forgive me for eating pork while eating some. - everyday and expecially on Yom Kippur we have to try our best to keep ourselves as pure as possible, and you are somewhat right that an image can pop into your mind while praying but thats usually in the beginning when you dont pray a lot, after sometime usually the less you think about things and the more you focus on prayer the less externel disturbences you get.

looking at a clothed woman is not a sin...so don't compare that with eating ham.

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

whateva, we allways had a seperation between men and women at gatherings and we are not supposed to and wont change it.

[jdl4ever]

Not true.  Only in synagague did we have separation between men and women.  At wedding ceremonies in Europe we did not according to my grandparents. 

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Not true.  Only in synagague did we have separation between men and women.  At wedding ceremonies in Europe we did not according to my grandparents. 

In religious wedding their is, in non-religious weddings their maybe is in the beginning (one dance) and then the religious people leave.- it kinda sucks though becuase you pay for the seat and then just leave. (I personally havent been to a wedding in years (maybe 2 or 3).

[jdl4ever]

That's now but not in the past.  I'm talking about religious towns in Europe as there was no reform or conservative in these towns.  It is permitted for men and women to eat together but not to pray together.  This is my tradition.