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Moshiach ben Yosef + Jews in America
« on: October 02, 2007, 11:48:57 PM »
Moshiach ben Yosef will arrive to the North. In the beginning, he will not know that he was chosen to be the first savior. He will operate thru his qualifications and thru his love for Am Israel that is embedded in him. He is very pious and has helpers with him. Thru his holy bravery and courage, people of the North as well as others will slowly awaken and want to attach themselves to him and join him. There will be those that will oppose him, including religious Jews that follow the Torah and its commandments.

He will rule from the Galil, his headquarters will be in Tzfat or Teveria. Some Talmidei Chachamim will begin to recognize him as the savior of Bnei Israel and will join him. Others will only join him much later.

* He'll announce an emergency regime.
* He will announce an emergency economic and secure regime because Israel will be bankrupt due to bankruptcy in America.
* He will call upon the Arab states to stop striking the Jews and to recognize the sovereignty of Israel in all Yesha territory.
* He will make major changes in the army.
* Major portion of the high-ranking officers of the IDF army will transfer their loyalty to him.
* In respond to kassam and rockets on Northern Israel, he will give instructions to completely exterminate a city in Syria.
* Egypt and Jordan will declare a war against him.
* He will lead the new IDF and capture Jordan and half of Sinai.
* He will forcibly capture Yerushalayim.

He will announce that the government operating in Yerushalayim are criminals and will demand to judge them according to the laws of the Jewish Court. He'll put some politicians in prison, while other politicians will try to run away. There will also be also politicans who will form a coalition to fight him, but he'll kill them.

* He will scatter media journalists and instead, place his own people.
* He will give (S'micha) Rabbinical authority to G'dol HaTorah to establish Chachmei Torah councilmen.
* He will cancel all authority and power of the Israel judicial system.

Meanwhile, in America...

* The Unites States will be severly struck because of their pride.
* The dollar will lose its value and the inflation will severely escalate.
* America will become bunkrupt.
* The severe strikes on the U.S. will come thru wars and even more, thru powerful weather disasters.
* The quick escalation of Moshiach ben Yosef will contribute to antisemitism.
* Antisemitism will rise to unimaginable heights.
* Jews of the United States will be forced to flee like fugitives, because those who survived the weather disasters will not be able to survive the tremendeous waves of hatred against them.
* The survivors will arrive in Israel with only the cloths on their back and Moshiach ben Yosef will reach out to help them.

Throughout the process, there will be many remarkable revealed miracles.

Please listen my friend, many are waiting for Moshiach to reveal himself and very soon, he will have the leadership.

What "Yehudit" says is very similar to what the holy sefarim (books) say, posted at Moshiach ben Yosef.

http://dreamingofmoshiach.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html

The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2007, 12:36:55 AM »
I also pray every day for Moshiach.

The world is in travail, as a woman in labor, exactly as was foretold.

Each and every day another sign of Moshiach's coming...and almost all of the prophecies have been fulfilled.

Even time has sped up.

Only the willfully blind can not see these events.

These are frightening times.

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2007, 12:55:50 AM »
Then what happens?

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2007, 05:22:12 PM »
Some people believe that Mashiach Ben Yosef is Rabbi kahane HY"D.

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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2007, 08:17:56 PM »
Some people believe that Mashiach Ben Yosef is Rabbi kahane HY"D.

Rav Kahane was a Kohen. Anyway I dont necessarily belive him to be for a number of reasons. 1- He's a Kohen, 2- MBY is supposed to reveal and will reveal many deep secrets of the Torah, allthough Rav Kahane was a great Talmid Hacham still his works deal with a lot of simpler (if we can call it that) but great teachings maninly based on the Pshat of the Talmud, MBY is supposed to real Deep Torah Secrets (each 3 different levels). 3- Hes not here to initiate the wars allthough I see how in a way he can be in this category becuase its his teachings in this generation that can be the impact of the wars.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2007, 09:03:23 PM »
While I know that the Moshiach will come very soon, I fear that we, righteous Jews, have failed. Rav Kahane mentioned the number 40 in terms of punishment and it is now 40 years from 1967. As such I am afraid that Moshiach will come "in it's time" and as a result there will be much suffering before his arrival. I hope that I am wrong, but I am afraid that I am indeed right.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2007, 10:21:48 PM »
Re:  "...as a result there will be much suffering before his arrival. I hope that I am wrong, but I am afraid that I am indeed right..."

Correct.

Look at the the "leaders" of the State of Israel...look at America's "leadership"...look at the corruption prevalent in American Conservative and Reform movements...accepting homosexual Rabbis, promoting homosexual marriage (even mixed faith homosexual marriages), renouncing Kashrut laws & renouncing brit milah...

As they say in academia, "The s_it's gonna' hit the fan!"

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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2007, 10:23:33 PM »
Re:  "...as a result there will be much suffering before his arrival. I hope that I am wrong, but I am afraid that I am indeed right..."

Correct.

Look at the the "leaders" of the State of Israel...look at America's "leadership"...look at the corruption prevalent in American Conservative and Reform movements...accepting homosexual Rabbis, promoting homosexual marriage (even mixed faith homosexual marriages), renouncing Kashrut laws & renouncing brit milah...

As they say in academia, "The s_it's gonna' hit the fan!"
Indeed there is currently spiritual suffering but my fear is that physical suffering will accompany it very soon......
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2007, 11:44:57 PM »
Re:  "...as a result there will be much suffering before his arrival. I hope that I am wrong, but I am afraid that I am indeed right..."

Correct.

Look at the the "leaders" of the State of Israel...look at America's "leadership"...look at the corruption prevalent in American Conservative and Reform movements...accepting homosexual Rabbis, promoting homosexual marriage (even mixed faith homosexual marriages), renouncing Kashrut laws & renouncing brit milah...

As they say in academia, "The s_it's gonna' hit the fan!"
Indeed there is currently spiritual suffering but my fear is that physical suffering will accompany it very soon......

The physical is worse then the spiritual?
Anyway, even though what is said is true, we might (and currently) are facing many challenges, but we should never loose hope, G-d runs the world and everything he made was Tov, even Tov Meod. Whatever we face, was put by G-d and we have to deal with it the right way.  Above all -the greatest damage someone can do to you is you yourself.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2007, 10:00:46 PM »
The Vilna Gaon taught that Mashiach Ben Yosef would be a Cohen
"For it is through the mercy of fools that all Justice is lost"
Ramban

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2007, 12:15:41 AM »
The Vilna Gaon taught that Mashiach Ben Yosef would be a Cohen

Where?
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2007, 09:13:56 AM »
Sefer Kol HaTor is where he wrote that
"For it is through the mercy of fools that all Justice is lost"
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2007, 12:58:44 PM »
Sefer Kol HaTor is where he wrote that

I read that Sefer, dont remember that point, also in that Sefer it is written that M Ben Yosef will reveal deep secrets of the Torah.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2007, 01:00:05 PM »
do you know which chapter?

The book is also available online http://www.yedidnefesh.com/kaballah/kol-hator/1.htm
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2007, 01:17:51 PM »
sorry no I dont
"For it is through the mercy of fools that all Justice is lost"
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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2007, 12:15:56 AM »
The Vilna Gaon taught that Mashiach Ben Yosef would be a Cohen

do you belive Rav Kahane to be MBY and why?
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2007, 12:04:54 PM »
The Vilna Gaon taught that Mashiach Ben Yosef would be a Cohen

Strange I never heard this. How can he been a Cohen if he is Ben YOSEF (not Levi)? Generally things go ben achar ben (after the father) when it comes to Moshiach. Do you know where that is written?
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2007, 03:18:14 PM »
The Vilna Gaon taught that Mashiach Ben Yosef would be a Cohen

Strange I never heard this. How can he been a Cohen if he is Ben YOSEF (not Levi)? Generally things go ben achar ben (after the father) when it comes to Moshiach. Do you know where that is written?

He said Sefer Kol HaTor , but I have read it some time ago and dont remember that to be the case. The sefer is also available online for free to read.
 http://www.yedidnefesh.com/kaballah/kol-hator/1.htm 
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2007, 10:05:36 AM »
mm interesting as cohens ARE LEVITES,and he would be called    Ben David as it is said Moshiac will come from that line.It is also said that all nations shall know of the one true G-d and that he {Moshiac}will be a "warrior King".
And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken perversion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of bondage, to draw thee aside out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee.Deuteronomy 13:5.

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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2007, 11:17:17 AM »
And how do you know that ?
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2007, 12:49:29 PM »
is that a trick question?
And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken perversion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of bondage, to draw thee aside out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee.Deuteronomy 13:5.

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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2007, 01:05:28 PM »
that was rude of me, the passage you need is Isaiah 11:1..althru Isaih alludes to "His" arrival and but what terms it is on.
And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken perversion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of bondage, to draw thee aside out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee.Deuteronomy 13:5.

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Re: Moshiach ben Yosef + Jews in America
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2007, 01:38:10 PM »
is that a trick question?
I asked Tzvi .
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2007, 04:21:39 PM »
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: Moshiach ben Yosef + Jews in America
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2007, 06:49:03 AM »
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche