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Dr. Dan:

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There's a big difference between believing that the Jews are the chosen people and engaging in disgusting and wanton racist language. We should also deem what is appropriate or inappropriate by common sense and common decency and be consistent and equitable about it.

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What is the difference? Racism is ok when it's biblical but otherwise it isn't? Saying that a people is "Chosen" means that other people are therefore not "chosen", that's racism. Thats saying that one race is superior.
What you consider common decency is just what the liberals around you have decided to call "decent" in their sick and twisted ideas of morals and ethics.
I am consistent. I always take the Jewish side of the issue, from a humanitarian point of view I am filled with contradictions, but the way I see it I am very consistent because I always base my view on the same question, "Is it good for the Jew?"

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We have to be careful on how we interpret "chosen"...

We are chosen because we received the Torah on Sinai for all generations...because we chose it.
We are chosen not in the sense that we are better than any nation...we aren't better than any nation...we are as other nations...Some nations are good at certain things like art, music, dancing, medicine etc.... WE Jews as a nation are good at priestliness.. When we are good, we are blessed and rewarded. When we are evil, we are punished...and to make it a little more interesting for Gd...when we are good, we are doubly rewared...but when we are evil, we are doubley punished!  And we as Jews on Sinai chose this...that's why we are chosen...no better nor worse than anyone else.

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We are chosen because we are G-d's people and we have a special covenant with him.

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but it doesn't make us better...it simply makes us a nation as well...a nation of priests...Gd's first born

Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
stop being politically incorrect. G-d said in the Torah that they Jews are his chosen, special nation, and that He loves them the most from all the nations. Their is many times of mention of this. Will and does this cause anti-semitism? YES. But the facts are the facts. Also just becuase Jews are chosen doesnt make all the other nations scumm or filth, etc as anti-semites claim the Torah and Talmud teaches, but definitly just like theirs a difference between a Human and an Animal, their is a difference between an Israelite (Jew) who does G-d's will, compared to a non-Jew. This isn't a genetic superiority, but a spiritual superiority which means that in the spiritual outlook everything is appreciated but their are different levels.
 Mineral- Plant- Animal-Human- Jew who loves G-d. (and subdivisions within each category).

Dr. Dan:
well written, mills

Dr. Dan:

--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on October 14, 2007, 05:21:38 PM ---stop being politically incorrect. G-d said in the Torah that they Jews are his chosen, special nation, and that He loves them the most from all the nations. Their is many times of mention of this. Will and does this cause anti-semitism? YES. But the facts are the facts. Also just becuase Jews are chosen doesnt make all the other nations scumm or filth, etc as anti-semites claim the Torah and Talmud teaches, but definitly just like theirs a difference between a Human and an Animal, their is a difference between an Israelite (Jew) who does G-d's will, compared to a non-Jew. This isn't a genetic superiority, but a spiritual superiority which means that in the spiritual outlook everything is appreciated but their are different levels.
 Mineral- Plant- Animal-Human- Jew who loves G-d. (and subdivisions within each category).

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you know, tzvi, you remind me of this guy i met in Jerusalem this summer.. He corrected the way i was wearing the t'fillin..and then somehow, in regards to the shel-rosh of the t'fillin, he said it belonged in that spot because that's where the shekhina or something like that..or the soul was located...the prefrontal lobe..the area which allows us to judge and to keep ourselves from doing the wrong thing...and he also said that only Jews had this...

I said, "what about righteous gentiles"
and he said, "No only Jews have this in their brain."
and then I said, "well, what about evil Jews..." He didn't answer fully..
and i followed up, "what about converts to Judaism?"  he didn't answer...I walked away...

This isn't about political correctness. Gd is the ultimate Father of all nations.  Each nation is one of His children. We are the eldest...the Eldest child has a duty different from all other children...the first born to be the leader of showing light.  However, all of Gd's other children also have a stake...each to be chosen in something else...All equal..all of Gd's love..however, we are particularly important...Gd will never make us disappear Gd forbid.  Without us there woudl be chaos.

However, we are not higher than anyone or any nation.  We are not more righteous than any other nation. Quite simply, we are very very important for the world...and if anyone tries to mess with us, well, Gd will have His way with them..and if anyone blesses us, Gd will bless them.  And if we screw around as a nation, Gd will really really really screw us over big time, Gd forbid.

Therefore, in conclusion, we are a special people..but we aren't necessarily better nor superior in anyway.

In other words, all fruits are equal in taste...but when comparing Jews with Africans with Europeans with Asians with Inidians you are compariing apples with oranges with pears with watermelons, with strawberries...All unique fruits, but all equally healthy to eat.

mosquewatch:
Should male-female interdancing be banned?

As a Gentile I vote no. People with the intent to cheat on their spouses will do it anyway. The idea that dancing will lead to "other things" in my opinion is not a valid argument. But I guess we could ban music put women in burqas, tell them not too leave the home, that would solve the problem. ( sarcasm ) 8;)

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