Prostituion

[newman]

I say yes.

1/ It has been in existance for ALL human history and will remain with us regardless of laws.

2/ It is a victimless 'crime' provided consenting adults are involved.

3/ It is a necessary evil. There are some men incapable by ugliness, personality or otherwise who will NEVER obtain sexual release by any other means. Do you want them at a legal brothel with a consenting adult or outside your daughters highschool?

4/ It is already legal in other forms......A female PR/Advertising account exec can sleep with clients to get business and it's legal. A mistress can sleep with a wealthy man in return for a nice apartment, expensive clothes and a generous allowance and it's fully legal. What's the difference between an advertising account, a Dior gown or cash?

Having said the above, it should be confined to specially zoned areas so those not seeking sex services are not solicited. There should also be most severe penalties for anybody exposing children to it or forcing people to participate.

[Dr. Dan]

I mean it's obvious...no...

why?

1. Disease

and

2. Women aren't meat..they're people with souls to love and cherish.

Objection. You dont know where people meet with soul to love, for G-d made this world unpredictable and unexpectable. There was a cases when man married a prostitue. Read novel called a Magic Berrel.

Yes...one in a billion are like that...but I think I have a better chance dropping a penny from teh empire state building and landing on someone I know.

[Dr. Dan]

Pornography is WORSE than prostitiution.

hmmm...but is watching pornography worse than going to a prostitute?

[Dr. Dan]

Newman has a good point...some women will degrade themselves by dating a wealthy guy and letting him have is way with her as long as she gets something in return...  So is that still a type of prostitution and for those who think it should be illegal, how do you regulate something like that?

Or what if you have a slutty girl?

Or a guy who has needs and has to go with that slutty girl?

I can say that most here agree that fornication before marriage although it is between consenting adults, is morally wrong.  And Gd forbid our own daughters or sisters or best friends be caught in those situations, let alone ourselves as men.

HOwever, which is worse?  Masturbating (pardon me) or random sex with sluts?   (I figure 13 year olds know enough about this subject and we don't have 8 year olds on this forum).

Even though both of those are immoral and against Judaism and would have to take a real saint to not do it, Masturbation is much more a selfless crime than random sex with random people...

[newman]

Newman has a good point...some women will degrade themselves by dating a wealthy guy and letting him have is way with her as long as she gets something in return...

And it's totally legal, so what hypocracy in banning the upfront and open practice of it?

[RationalThought110]

No, it should remain illegal.  Its demeaning, dangerous and gross and immoral for women...and what kind of guy needs to see a prostitute, losers.

Isn't stripping just as bad? 

[Joe Schmo]

Pornography is WORSE than prostitiution.

hmmm...but is watching pornography worse than going to a prostitute?

Yes.

In this day and age, young boys can and DO view XXX.

Children cannot hire prostitutes, however.

Do you know what happens to a young boy when he views porn for the first time?

I  can assure you it is NOT good.

[ftf]

I definately think that prostitution should be banned completely, I also think that pornography should be banned.

[Dr. Dan]

Pornography is WORSE than prostitiution.

hmmm...but is watching pornography worse than going to a prostitute?

Yes.

In this day and age, young boys can and DO view XXX.

Children cannot hire prostitutes, however.

Do you know what happens to a young boy when he views porn for the first time?

I  can assure you it is NOT good.

Define young....if by young you mean prepubescent...I don't wanna know!

But for a teenager ready to climb out of his pants...in my opinion, it's perfectly normal to need to see a naked girl somehow..and a magazine is the safest way to go...

[Dr. Dan]

Here's the deal..you can't just make things like this suddenly illegal...I'm not talking about prostitution, but pornography... Pornography isn't a good thing...and what needs to be done is to clean up society so that it has no desire or a much lesser desire to want to go towards pornography...

However, i do believe that for the most part it prevents slightly evil things to be even more evil.  However, I don't have a study or a reserach that can prove that.

[Ulli]

Prostitution is illegal for good reasons. This is no job, like all others. The most prostitutes are mentally ill, have had abortions, take drugs or have sexually transmissible diseases. This way destroys people. God has banned it. There is no doubt in the bible. The natural order is the classic family. This is the only place, where future and life are for us.

[Joe Schmo]

Pornography is WORSE than prostitiution.

hmmm...but is watching pornography worse than going to a prostitute?

Yes.

In this day and age, young boys can and DO view XXX.

Children cannot hire prostitutes, however.

Do you know what happens to a young boy when he views porn for the first time?

I  can assure you it is NOT good.

Define young....if by young you mean prepubescent...I don't wanna know!

You mean you don't care?

[Dr. Dan]

Pornography is WORSE than prostitiution.

hmmm...but is watching pornography worse than going to a prostitute?

Yes.

In this day and age, young boys can and DO view XXX.

Children cannot hire prostitutes, however.

Do you know what happens to a young boy when he views porn for the first time?

I  can assure you it is NOT good.

Define young....if by young you mean prepubescent...I don't wanna know!

You mean you don't care?

I'm scared to know what happens to 7 or 8 year old boys who come across an XXX video with actual fornication and all that other adult jazz.

[Joe Schmo]

I'm scared to know what happens to 7 or 8 year old boys who come across an XXX video with actual fornication and all that other adult jazz.

You should be scared...its not good.

This is an unprecedented problem in our society.  Young boys are losing their innocence and becoming psychologically damaged because of porn.

This issue is HIGHLY underrated.

[Ehud]

I'm scared to know what happens to 7 or 8 year old boys who come across an XXX video with actual fornication and all that other adult jazz.

You should be scared...its not good.

This is an unprecedented problem in our society.  Young boys are losing their innocence and becoming psychologically damaged because of porn.

This issue is HIGHLY underrated.

What types of problems does it cause young boys?  I can see that in 7-8 year olds, that is much too young to watch pornography, I wasn't aware that kids were seeing it that early these days but I guess it doesn't surprise me considering all the sickos out there.  If people are willing to have sex with children they are certainly willing to show them pornography.  Showing kids that young pornography could be a way that demented perverts initiate their victims into sex and the kids that age are too young to realize what's really going on on the screen.

I don't think pornography is damaging for someone who's 13 or 14 though.  If I didn't have porn when I was a young-un, I don't know what I would have done.  I probably would have sought out lots of girls and I probably would have gotten in trouble somehow.

[Joe Schmo]

I don't think pornography is damaging for someone who's 13 or 14 though.  If I didn't have porn when I was a young-un, I don't know what I would have done.  I probably would have sought out lots of girls and I probably would have gotten in trouble somehow.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

[Ehud]

I don't think pornography is damaging for someone who's 13 or 14 though.  If I didn't have porn when I was a young-un, I don't know what I would have done.  I probably would have sought out lots of girls and I probably would have gotten in trouble somehow.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Yeah, well I said it didn't I? 

If I didn't have pornography when I was around that age up to maybe age 17 and I didn't have that form of an outlet, I probably would have sought to have relations with girls and I could see how it would have gotten me into trouble somehow. 

[Nic Brookes]

Porn: One person sexually stimulating themselves
The alternative? Fonication of the highest order. Were the pornography business to be regulated more, I would have no problem. Nudity is nothing to hide and taboo, it is natural

[Ehud]

Porn: One person sexually stimulating themselves
The alternative? Fonication of the highest order. Were the pornography business to be regulated more, I would have no problem. Nudity is nothing to hide and taboo, it is natural

Nudity is natural but the type of sex that goes on in porn definitely isn't natural.  It shows people that they can have easy relations with people like in porn, and it's no problem, but to be honest, I don't think that people need to get that from porn, I think they get that from their liberal sexual morality. 

The idea that pornography turns everyone into sex crazed, sexually immoral people is false.  There are plenty of people out there who watch pornography who don't have sex with random people and who cherish women, marriage, and the importance that sexual intercourse be with one who you love. 

I think the evil that pornography creates is less than the evil it avoids.  Think about what it would be like if there was no pornography.  We would have lots of pent-up sickos prowling the streets and preying on young girls and children to fulfill their sexual fantasies.  We would have more taking advantage of young women, more rapes, more date-rapes, etc.  I would much rather have some 50 year old pervert watching a video with an 18 year old in it than prowling colleges looking to take advantage of a naive girl.

[Nic Brookes]

I would much rather have some 50 year old pervert watching a video with an 18 year old in it than prowling colleges looking to take advantage of a naive girl.

So eloquantly put!

[ftf]

The porn industry fuels sexual obsessions, without the porn industry, and all of the not-quite-porn that's around, people would not be so obsessed with sex.

Remove the porn, remove the semi-nude based adverts etc, society would be a lot better.

[New Yorker]

Prostitutes are filthy, mentally sick people and you should not want anything to do with them, that's like paying to sleep with an inmate from a lunatic asylum, not to mention that there's a multitude of diseases you could catch from them, the worst of which is AIDS, after that game over.

[New Yorker]

As for porn, stay away from the porn, and prostitutes; I'm not saying this for any moral reasons, I'm saying it for practical reasons;  Without those outlets your motivation to go out and get into a legitimate relationship will go through the roof and instead of sitting on your lonely ass you will be motivated to go out and get a girlfriend, fiancee, etc.

[ftf]

Prostitutes are filthy, mentally sick people and you should not want anything to do with them, that's like paying to sleep with an inmate from a lunatic asylum, not to mention that there's a multitude of diseases you could catch from them, the worst of which is AIDS, after that game over.

You're wrong, a lot of them are forced into it, they're kidnapped, and taken to a brothel thousands of miles away, it's not their choice at all in many cases. You're right about the deseases though.

[New Yorker]

Prostitutes are filthy, mentally sick people and you should not want anything to do with them, that's like paying to sleep with an inmate from a lunatic asylum, not to mention that there's a multitude of diseases you could catch from them, the worst of which is AIDS, after that game over.

You're wrong, a lot of them are forced into it, they're kidnapped, and taken to a brothel thousands of miles away, it's not their choice at all in many cases. You're right about the deseases though.

Well, I'm talking about the volunteers.