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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Just Erica on February 29, 2008, 11:18:39 AM
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Why is it important for you to hate the man so much that you associate his name with Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden? The first time his name was spoken on the airwaves of radio and on television, I knew it was going to be a problem; but not for the reasons you think. I knew that there were going to be a bunch of crazies who wouldn't want a black man in office, especially with a name like that. He has two strikes against him...He's black, and his full name contains the name of an Iraqi dicatator, and his last name sounds like Osama. I understand being pissed off with the idiots who hold the name and (rhyming name) of people you hate but why does he have to pay for that? He didn't choose his name.
I remember some of you bashing MLK (and I still don't know if this is true...) for having his name changed as a child. If Barack Hussein Obama changed his name before entering the campaign, and you found out about it, you'd still assume the worse about him.
Also, I'm afraid that you guys think that since his name sounds like (and is) {Osama and Hussein} you automatically jump to him being Muslim because those two monsters are muslim.
I guess my question is why is it that when people hate someone of a specific name, everyone who has the same name or even a name that sounds like it,has to pay for it?
For instance... If a girl named Sheila [censored] me off as a child, do I have the right to bash every 'Sheila' that crosses my path after the fact?
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Barack Hussein Obama is not a Kenyan name it's a moslem name.
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His name provides a subtle aspect into his Muslim background. Barack means blessed in Arabic and Hussein clearly isn't Kenyan.
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His name provides a subtle aspect into his Muslim background. Barack means blessed in Arabic and Hussein clearly isn't Kenyan.
Subtle aspect? It mule kicks you in the face...
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This is the President of Kenyas name it does'nt sound moslem to me Mwai Kibaki or this name does'nt sound moslem Kathurima M'Inoti
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Erica, If a Moslem becomes president, do you think they would care about the black community? Moslems hate Blacks more than any Caucasian ever has.
Muslims enslave blacks to this day in North Africa and Saudi Arabia..
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Erica,
We dislike Obama for many reasons, besides his name. We dislike that he is backed by George Soros. We dislike his connections to Farrakhan and radical 60's groups. I for one, have a problem that a board he sat on dontated money to a pro terrorist Arab American group. I also have a problem with the fact that he spoke at fundraisers where money was raised for fakestinian so-called refugee camps. For these reasons, and for the fact that he supports Raila Odinga of Kenya, we believe he is a closet Musim, hence the emphasis on his middle name. And finally, we completely disagree with his foreign and domestic policies.
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I saw a video a while back of a Saudi Arabian grown man whipping and insulting a begging black boy slave and I couldn't even watch more than a few seconds because it was simply horrible child abuse and it hurt me to watch even what I did. Those are the so-called Muslim "moderates".
Obama's name is an Arabic, Muslim name, not an African name. Arabs refer to blacks as slaves and treat them as such in their own nations, yet so many Africans have been duped into following Islam.
There have even been movements in America telling blacks not to follow Christianity because it's too "white" of a religion but Islam is not a black religion either. While Christianity has a universal perspective for people of all races, Islam is about worship of the Arabic language, culture, and pagan gods. It's basically a way to enslave not only blacks but every other nationality to the Arab people.
Most Muslims are not Arab but all Muslims are beholden to Arab interests.
We do not need that for the United States.
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It's so funny some stupid blacks point to the lies of Jews running the slave trade, when Muslims were involved in the heart of it. How any black can convert to Islam is beyond me. Muslims are still involved with slavery TO THIS VERY DAY, and blacks don't even talk about it. Unbelievable.
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What kind of parents name their child Barak Hussein?
Obviously, Obama's parents were rebelling against the 'established norms' of American society.
In fact, I'd venture to say that Mr. and Mrs. Obama Sr. are ('were', if deceased) America-haters.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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He has a Muslim name and people don't feel comfortable having a Muslim president, nor should they. Same reason Iran doesn't elect a Jew with the last name Goldberg instead of Ahmadinajad. You havn't had an Italian, Jewish or Irish (with acception to Kennedy and u know what happend 2 him) president yet and your telling me a Half-black, half-white guy with Muslim ties and no experience is more qualified to run the country then the most qualified people in those groups. It doesn't add up to support him, of course he's a puppet so i'm sure the people at the top love him.
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Instead of looking at all the evidence, this thread is real concise about why we dislike Obama. Virtually none of it directly relates to his race.
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Barack isn't the term usually used in arabic for blessing or blessed. It is Baraka. So I think you're over exaggerating this bit
Hussein literally means the "handsome one". It is a very common surname, and middle name.
I think to bash him for his name, is just a useless attack. At the end of the day a name doesn't speak of a persons character or personality. Somebody could have a wonderful name that reflects goodness but still behave like the devil.
However, i don't think Obama should be president....even though i'm not American.....i just think he'll cause a big racial crisis, chaos and inexperience to the white house. At the same time, America will decline and go into recession because of him.
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Barack isn't the term usually used in arabic for blessing or blessed. It is Baraka. So I think you're over exaggerating this bit
Hussein literally means the "handsome one". It is a very common surname, and middle name.
I think to bash him for his name, is just a useless attack. At the end of the day a name doesn't speak of a persons character or personality. Somebody could have a wonderful name that reflects goodness but still behave like the devil.
However, i don't think Obama should be president....even though i'm not American.....i just think he'll cause a big racial crisis, chaos and inexperience to the white house. At the same time, America will decline and go into recession because of him.
no one is judging because of his name, we are using his name because he claims not be a muslim
If Obama has a problem with his middle name he should take it up with his mother. Most presidents use their middle names. I think the only two that didn't in recent times was Carter and Ford. The fact that its a muslim middle name may get the American peoples minds going and Obama could not have that. If people start digging around they may find some muslim roots :o
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Come on now Erika, you know darn well that Obama hates Jews if he's good friends with Farrakhan, who despises Jews. You can tell a man by the company he keeps. Obama keeps company with viscious anti-semites. It's a shame, for you to stick up for him, shows you to be Jew hater. You just try to be clever about it. But it doesn't work work with me. I think most Jews and gentiles of JTF realize that you're a typical Jew Hater , unless of course, they are naive or flat out dumb.
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Barack isn't the term usually used in arabic for blessing or blessed. It is Baraka. So I think you're over exaggerating this bit
Hussein literally means the "handsome one". It is a very common surname, and middle name.
I think to bash him for his name, is just a useless attack. At the end of the day a name doesn't speak of a persons character or personality. Somebody could have a wonderful name that reflects goodness but still behave like the devil.
However, i don't think Obama should be president....even though i'm not American.....i just think he'll cause a big racial crisis, chaos and inexperience to the white house. At the same time, America will decline and go into recession because of him.
no one is judging because of his name, we are using his name because he claims not be a muslim
So you are judging what he is i.e muslim, from his name.
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The fact that he would like to keep his middle name a secret speaks volumes.
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bullcat3: "...The fact that he would like to keep his middle name a secret speaks volumes..."
So true.
If he had any sense of common decency, the first thing he would have done upon achieving legal age, would have been to go to court and have his name legally changed to an American name...something like Barry Henderson O'dell!
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The fact that he would like to keep his middle name a secret speaks volumes.
I don't know maybe I am nuts but I would think that the American people would want to know everything about a person who basically has the ability to destroy the world several times over in the span of a few hours. Choosing a person to be president of the United States demands slightly more scrutiny than choosing a person to be the president of the Micky Mouse Club. This guy is not even officially in the final running and already we have restrictions on what we are allowed to say and ask. What other questions will soon be unacceptable? When Bush ran for president the Democrats were all over the fact that he had a Drinking problem in his past. Did bush say that was off the table and demand that it was not talked about? Obama should just let the chips fall where they may and deal with issues openly as Bush did about his past drinking problem. He promised the American people he would never drink while in office but never demanded that the subject be off limits. Hillery and McCain have already fallen into the PC trap so in a matter of speaking Obama already has the upper hand.
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speaking of race, his mom is white, why doesn't he ever mention that, why is he so proud to be black and not a little bit proud that he has a white mom, his wife even said "black america must wake up" if anyone here is racists is the obamas
He mentions his mom and her race a lot. However, is it important that he mentions his mom's race with every sentence he utters? And when his wife said "black America must wake up" she's saying that blacks should get out there and vote just like everyone else. Take the vote seriously. Why does everything have to be a conspiracy?
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Barack isn't the term usually used in arabic for blessing or blessed. It is Baraka. So I think you're over exaggerating this bit
Hussein literally means the "handsome one". It is a very common surname, and middle name.
I think to bash him for his name, is just a useless attack. At the end of the day a name doesn't speak of a persons character or personality. Somebody could have a wonderful name that reflects goodness but still behave like the devil.
However, i don't think Obama should be president....even though i'm not American.....i just think he'll cause a big racial crisis, chaos and inexperience to the white house. At the same time, America will decline and go into recession because of him.
I don't think HE'LL cause a racial crisis..I think people who are racist against him will start the racial crisis. It really doesn't make any sense for people to say he shouldn't be president because he's black...and they're out there, too. The same people calling him a baboon, monkey or a coon. That's a racial issue. Plus, with as many white people who voted for him, why would HE cause a racial crisis?
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Barack isn't the term usually used in arabic for blessing or blessed. It is Baraka. So I think you're over exaggerating this bit
Hussein literally means the "handsome one". It is a very common surname, and middle name.
I think to bash him for his name, is just a useless attack. At the end of the day a name doesn't speak of a persons character or personality. Somebody could have a wonderful name that reflects goodness but still behave like the devil.
However, i don't think Obama should be president....even though i'm not American.....i just think he'll cause a big racial crisis, chaos and inexperience to the white house. At the same time, America will decline and go into recession because of him.
no one is judging because of his name, we are using his name because he claims not be a muslim
No, you make fun of his name. I read all of the inferences about his name. You get upset when some blacks name their children names that 'don't make sense to you, or seem to ghetto' but when a black man actually has a first and middle name that actually have meaning, they're evil?
Here are the meanings of his names...
The origin of the name Barack is African NOT MUSLIM.
Name: Hussein
Origin and Meaning of the Name Hussein Report incorrect name info
Gender:
Boy
Origin:
Arabic
Meaning:
Good looking
Pronunciation:
(hu SAYN) [Guide]
http://www.babynames.com/Names/name_display.php?id=1736
Someone here lied, saying that his name meant 'conquerer'. Why did they have to lie about it?
The meaning of my name is "Always a ruler" ...Does that mean I want to take over the world?
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Come on now Erika, you know darn well that Obama hates Jews if he's good friends with Farrakhan, who despises Jews. You can tell a man by the company he keeps. Obama keeps company with viscious anti-semites. It's a shame, for you to stick up for him, shows you to be Jew hater. You just try to be clever about it. But it doesn't work work with me. I think most Jews and gentiles of JTF realize that you're a typical Jew Hater , unless of course, they are naive or flat out dumb.
He isn't good friends with Farrakhan. He mentioned that he doesn't have any dealings with him at all. He didn't even accept his support because of how Farrakhan feels about Jews and white people. He denounced him in public, on television. And trust me, if I was a Jew hater, I wouldn't have shown you the decency of acting like I have common sense here. I would have been acting like some of you..calling Jews out of their names and being derrogatory. I don't feel that way about whites, NOR Jews.
I've noticed that a lot of JTF members are right fighters, though. If you don't agree with them, they order that you be banished from the face of the earth.
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The fact that he would like to keep his middle name a secret speaks volumes.
He didn't keep his middle name a secret. We've known for 2 years what his middle name is. Also, if he's such a "proud muslim" why would he have to hide his middle name, bullcat?
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What's more puzzling to me is why McCain wants to hide Obama's middle name. I thought he was running AGAINST him! Even if it doesn't mean conquerer or anything like that, I'm not comfortable having someone with a Muslim name be president.
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bullcat3: "...The fact that he would like to keep his middle name a secret speaks volumes..."
So true.
If he had any sense of common decency, the first thing he would have done upon achieving legal age, would have been to go to court and have his name legally changed to an American name...something like Barry Henderson O'dell!
Oh, because that's what 'righteous blacks do' huh? He is one of the very few American born blacks who actually has a name directly linked to Africa. I wish I had one to call my own. But I have an English name (which is beautiful) but I wonder what it would be like to have an African name anyway. I think he did great by not changing his name. Also, if he HAD changed his name, you'd still be bashing him now..saying how "He's trying to hide his African background!" or better yet, still having the argument we're having now "He's a closet Muslim! Look at his name!" ::)
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Simple Erica. He's engaged in deception or what is known in Islam as taqiyya.
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What's more puzzling to me is why McCain wants to hide Obama's middle name. I thought he was running AGAINST him! Even if it doesn't mean conquerer or anything like that, I'm not comfortable having someone with a Muslim name be president.
How would you feel if someone who had a Jewish name was runing for office but no one would vote for them because of their name? That doesn't sound right. I think that saying his name then stopping at Hussein is a personal attack and an attempt to link him with Saddam Hussein. If people say it enough, idiots will actually believe that they're related. Calling him by his first, middle, and last names isn't a bad thing...it's how you do it that can have a negative affect with people who hate him.
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Simple Erica. He's engaged in deception or what is known in Islam as taqiyya.
What you're saying is just like what people said his First and Middle names meant. Lies. He didn't decieve anyone. He's been straight with us since he came on the scene 3 years ago. Why do you want him to fail so badly? (That's not a question to make you vote for him.) Is it necessary to speak untruths about him when all you have to do is vote against him?
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How would you feel if someone who had a Jewish name was runing for office but no one would vote for them because of their name?
It's the official policy of JTF not to endorse a Jewish president. I believe Chaim said the majority of Jewish politicians simply wouldn't be a good choice and he explained why but I don't remember all the details. The gist of it though as far as I can remember was that righteous Gentiles should run Gentile nations and Jews should run Israel.
That doesn't sound right. I think that saying his name then stopping at Hussein is a personal attack and an attempt to link him with Saddam Hussein.
If people say it enough, idiots will actually believe that they're related.
Both were brought up in a Muslim background.
Calling him by his first, middle, and last names isn't a bad thing...it's how you do it that can have a negative affect with people who hate him.
We're trying to remind people of just who they may be voting for.
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Simple Erica. He's engaged in deception or what is known in Islam as taqiyya.
What you're saying is just like what people said his First and Middle names meant. Lies. He didn't decieve anyone. He's been straight with us since he came on the scene 3 years ago. Why do you want him to fail so badly? (That's not a question to make you vote for him.) Is it necessary to speak untruths about him when all you have to do is vote against him?
Erica.. thats such an obvious answer... No one would vote for him if they thought he was a Muslim. Everything Baraq Hussein does is calculated to appeal to the lowest common denominator a full spectrum of American voters.
He knew from the beginning he'd have to hide his Muslim heritage if he ever wanted to attain the highest position in American politics.
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Barack isn't the term usually used in arabic for blessing or blessed. It is Baraka. So I think you're over exaggerating this bit
Hussein literally means the "handsome one". It is a very common surname, and middle name.
I think to bash him for his name, is just a useless attack. At the end of the day a name doesn't speak of a persons character or personality. Somebody could have a wonderful name that reflects goodness but still behave like the devil.
However, i don't think Obama should be president....even though i'm not American.....i just think he'll cause a big racial crisis, chaos and inexperience to the white house. At the same time, America will decline and go into recession because of him.
no one is judging because of his name, we are using his name because he claims not be a muslim
So you are judging what he is i.e muslim, from his name.
no because he claims not to be a muslim, and his names are pure muslim names, if hes not muslim why would have muslm names
His first name is AFRICAN... his Middle name is ARAB.. .his LAST NAME IS AFRICAN. He has those names because he was BORN WITH THEM. Did you pick out your name while in utero? If his name was Tyrone or LeRoy, you'd have a field day here, saying how 'ghetto' his name sounds or 'is'... instead the man has authentic names that can be defined.
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How would you feel if someone who had a Jewish name was runing for office but no one would vote for them because of their name?
It's the official policy of JTF not to endorse a Jewish president. I believe Chaim said the majority of Jewish politicians simply wouldn't be a good choice and he explained why but I don't remember all the details. The gist of it though as far as I can remember was that righteous Gentiles should run Gentile nations and Jews should run Israel.
Ruby, what if a American born Jew or even a Native Israeli who is a legal citizen of America for 35 years wants to run for President? Is it a rule that they shouldn't run?
That doesn't sound right. I think that saying his name then stopping at Hussein is a personal attack and an attempt to link him with Saddam Hussein.
If people say it enough, idiots will actually believe that they're related.
Both were brought up in a Muslim background.
Actually, Ruby...they weren't both brought up in a Muslim background. Obama went to a school in Indonesia that accepted ALL faiths, not just muslims. He didn't go to a madrassa like everyone said he did. The last time I checked, Muslims wear muslim garb everywhere ...even in school. In his elementary school in Indonesia, the kids dressed like 'kids' in regular clothing...wanna see a picture?
Calling him by his first, middle, and last names isn't a bad thing...it's how you do it that can have a negative affect with people who hate him.
We're trying to remind people of just who they may be voting for.
Why do you have to do that? We have our own minds for a reason. We do research on our own, righ? Why do you have to make people's minds up for them to vote for or against someone? Why is it your job?
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Why do you have to do that? We have our own minds for a reason. We do research on our own, righ? Why do you have to make people's minds up for them to vote for or against someone? Why is it your job?
Most people don't do their own research before they vote. They just watch the ads and maybe see a random mainstream media pundit or news broadcast once in a whle.
Part of the mission of JTF is to be an alternative media.
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Simple Erica. He's engaged in deception or what is known in Islam as taqiyya.
What you're saying is just like what people said his First and Middle names meant. Lies. He didn't decieve anyone. He's been straight with us since he came on the scene 3 years ago. Why do you want him to fail so badly? (That's not a question to make you vote for him.) Is it necessary to speak untruths about him when all you have to do is vote against him?
Erica.. thats such an obvious answer... No one would vote for him if they thought he was a Muslim. Everything Baraq Hussein does is calculated to appeal to the lowest common denominator a full spectrum of American voters.
He knew from the beginning he'd have to hide his Muslim heritage if he ever wanted to attain the highest position in American politics.
He's denying he was ever a muslim...and has for years. Is he still hiding? As a matter of fact, there are voters who don't even care whether he's Muslim or Christian. They're not voting for God or Allah, they're voting for a man or woman who can make a difference.
The problem is that there is a stigma in America that if your name isn't John Smith, that you must be too ghetto, too this or too that to do anything worthwhile. Shaniqua will never be a brain surgeon, Barack can never be President, Jesus (HAY ZOOSE) will never be city councilman, Thurgood will never be a Judge, Condoleeza will never be a fixture in the white house FOR 8 years!, Aretha will NEVER be a famous singer, Edmonia will NEVER be a famous sculpture, Bessie will NEVER become the first black female pilot in the world.
Names mean absolutely NOTHING. Its what you do with your life that makes the impact.
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Barack isn't the term usually used in arabic for blessing or blessed. It is Baraka. So I think you're over exaggerating this bit
Hussein literally means the "handsome one". It is a very common surname, and middle name.
I think to bash him for his name, is just a useless attack. At the end of the day a name doesn't speak of a persons character or personality. Somebody could have a wonderful name that reflects goodness but still behave like the devil.
However, i don't think Obama should be president....even though i'm not American.....i just think he'll cause a big racial crisis, chaos and inexperience to the white house. At the same time, America will decline and go into recession because of him.
no one is judging because of his name, we are using his name because he claims not be a muslim
So you are judging what he is i.e muslim, from his name.
no because he claims not to be a muslim, and his names are pure muslim names, if hes not muslim why would have muslm names
His first name is AFRICAN... his Middle name is ARAB.. .his LAST NAME IS AFRICAN. He has those names because he was BORN WITH THEM. Did you pick out your name while in utero? If his name was Tyrone or LeRoy, you'd have a field day here, saying how 'ghetto' his name sounds or 'is'... instead the man has authentic names that can be defined.
even if his middle name is muslim/arab proves that he is a muslim so why does he lie and say that hes not a muslim
It proves nothing. There was a black female singer named Aaliyah. Her name is Arabic and means "High, sublime"...Was she a muslim also? Some black people choose Arabic or African names specifically for meaning, not for religious purposes. Take "Hakeem" for instance. The name "Hakeem" means 'wise, intelligent' and is ALSO Arabic. Is he Muslim also?
I'm not particular about what other people name their children but you have to choose whether to hate blacks for having names which are 'too ghetto' for you to pronouce, or ' too meaningful' for you to take seriously.
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Ericka, could you name one thing obama has done
Yes, Obama sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries. This is particularly important to me because my husband is an active duty servicemember who'll be deploying soon. We all know that the government looks at disabled veterans of our services as if they're wastes of space. It's a shame that the President vetoed the amendment even after Congress appoved it...the majority of the votes being bipartisan.
He's done more than that...but you only asked for one thing.
Want to know more? Visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Senate_career
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By the way, Aaliyah's brother was in a couple of classes with me in college. Nice guy. I remember he came in and told us all about how he got to go with her to the Oscar's one year. It's a shame what happened to her. I was very sad when I heard it. It was only a couple years after we graduated.
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By the way, Aaliyah's brother was in a couple of classes with me in college. Nice guy. I remember he came in and told us all about how he got to go with her to the Oscar's one year. It's a shame what happened to her. I was very sad when I heard it. It was only a couple years after we graduated.
At that time, I was out of high school about 10 years and living in Okinawa with my husband and children. When she died, I thought someone had played a horrible joke on me. But as the day went on and the news reports rolled in, one on top of the other I became saddened. I didn't know her but I loved her voice and her dance moves. :) She was tops.
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The fact that he would like to keep his middle name a secret speaks volumes.
He didn't keep his middle name a secret. We've known for 2 years what his middle name is. Also, if he's such a "proud muslim" why would he have to hide his middle name, bullcat?
I am really amazed how well the main stream media has taken to Obama. It seems each day they prop him up a bit more. In the debate between Hillery and Obama last week the fact that the moderators were trying to bash Hillery's brains in showed very clearly . Now I don't have much use for either of the Democrats but seeing Hillery always answering first at then watching Obama answer second tweaking Hillery's answer a bit to give it his personal touch was comical. Obama is the new boy on the block. I want to here what he has to say not see him take Hillery's lead and run with it. As far as the name goes he is clearly showing me and other folks that are skeptical of this guy that he is trying to hide the fact that he has muslim roots. Why get upset about a middle name? He became agitated at the debate about Faracan, about the Pastor of his so called racist church and his middle name. He had a hard time distancing himself from Faracan and got steamed up when they asked about the minister of his church and his connections to Faracan. Its not the middle name that is the problem its the fact that the name is the door knocker to all the other issues Obama really doesn't want brought out into the open.
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The fact that he would like to keep his middle name a secret speaks volumes.
He didn't keep his middle name a secret. We've known for 2 years what his middle name is. Also, if he's such a "proud muslim" why would he have to hide his middle name, bullcat?
I am really amazed how well the main stream media has taken to Obama. It seems each day they prop him up a bit more. In the debate between Hillery and Obama last week the fact that the moderators were trying to bash Hillery's brains in showed very clearly . Now I don't have much use for either of the Democrats but seeing Hillery always answering first at then watching Obama answer second tweaking Hillery's answer a bit to give it his personal touch was comical. Obama is the new boy on the block. I want to here what he has to say not see him take Hillery's lead and run with it. As far as the name goes he is clearly showing me and other folks that are skeptical of this guy that he is trying to hide the fact that he has muslim roots. Why get upset about a middle name? He became agitated at the debate about Faracan, about the Pastor of his so called racist church and his middle name. He had a hard time distancing himself from Faracan and got steamed up when they asked about the minister of his church and his connections to Faracan. Its not the middle name that is the problem its the fact that the name is the door knocker to all the other issues Obama really doesn't want brought out into the open.
Louis Farrakhan and Obama's pastor went to a country together in 1984. Where was Obama at that time? NOT IN THE PICTURE. There was no need to even ask that question even after Obama denounced Farrakhan's compliment (because he didn't give anything to his camaign...endorsements come with cash, you know.) Then Farrakhan made a back handed compliment about Obama's roots with a white mother. As if he was amazed that "a white devil" could give birth to such a brilliant man. (Sarcasm). Obama is no fool. If he was with Farrakhan, he would've answered straight up, that he accepted him. It says a lot to me that he denounced him.
Get angry at the polls. Vote against him. Don't slander his name because he was unfortunate enough to have the same name (and same sounding name) as evil Muslims. Get angry because you don't like his policy, don't get angry with him because his pastor hung out with Farrakhan when I was in 4th grade... 24 years ago before Obama was interested in the Presidency or the U.S. Senate, for that matter.
He never covered up anything. He wrote a book years ago with the information in it. THen it came up in the 04 senate debate, I believe. (Must.Google.) His father was born a Christian, he became a Muslim later (after he left Obama's mom) then became agnostic. His stepfather was Indonesian and is said to have been Muslim but that info is choppy at best. But that still doesn't make Barack someone who followed the faith seriously. It wasnt' like he was an adult and had made the decision to follow Islam principle by principle. He joked around a mosque (allegedly) with friends and probably didn't understand a word said there. The school he went to was nothing like the Islamic Schools you guys are talking about. It accepted every religion. (Allegedly) his stepfather signed him in as Muslim. I read in that article that someone said he was in Religion class... If he was in Religion class studying the Koran, where was every other faith of child at the school? In Religion (Buddhist) class? Religion (Catholic) Class?
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Erica, members on this forum don't hate him because of his name. That's just merely an aggravating factor. This is not a "what's in a name" phenomenon since if he were to doff his name, he would be retaining any beauty in anyone's eyes on here. With anyone that is loathed, names are created for those people, eg. Hillary "Sodom" Clinton. But with Barack Hussein Obama, there's absolutely nothing more that can be added except to state his full name and let the sounds and the rhymes speak for themselves. But the name makes absolutely no difference in how he's going to be perceived on this forum. Many people would say that if his name were John Smith, he wouldn't be taken as seriously. I would also retort that if his name were John Smith, he would still be hated and loathed just because he's black. My personal reluctance for him has nothing to do with his race. I don't think that he's some type of Darth Sidious the way many people on here think he is. But I do think he's another John F. Kennedy in waiting who might very well end up making some very bad policy decisions if he is elected president.
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My problem with Obama isn't his race, it's his positions, he'd be a disaster for America (as would Hilary, McCain doesn't thrill me either but I'll take him over the other two, like choosing to have a broken leg over getting cancer), the fact that Obama Hussein has also got a nefarious background, is simply the icing on the cake.
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Erica, members on this forum don't hate him because of his name. That's just merely an aggravating factor. This is not a "what's in a name" phenomenon since if he were to doff his name, he would be retaining any beauty in anyone's eyes on here. With anyone that is loathed, names are created for those people, eg. Hillary "Sodom" Clinton. But with Barack Hussein Obama, there's absolutely nothing more that can be added except to state his full name and let the sounds and the rhymes speak for themselves. But the name makes absolutely no difference in how he's going to be perceived on this forum. Many people would say that if his name were John Smith, he wouldn't be taken as seriously. I would also retort that if his name were John Smith, he would still be hated and loathed just because he's black. My personal reluctance for him has nothing to do with his race. I don't think that he's some type of Darth Sidious the way many people on here think he is. But I do think he's another John F. Kennedy in waiting who might very well end up making some very bad policy decisions if he is elected president.
There is a difference between the way you and New Yorker see obama in a negative light and the way others see him in a negative light. YOU don't like his opinions...there is nothing wrong with that. After all, I said I'm not trying to get anyone to vote for him. I'm actually saying to vote against him for the right reasons. We as democrats and republicans are never going to see eye to eye on this issue. But that's what the ballot is for. Please vote against him if he doesn't bring to the table the issues you hold dear.