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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kerber on August 21, 2008, 04:08:38 PM
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I want to ask you who live in USA.
Do you pay the income tax and why do you pay it?
(I don't know if this kind of topic is appropriate for this section,if not mod can move it)
Let me clarify,what/who enforces you to pay it and how?
I really want to know it,just to get familiarized with this part of USA's system.
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I'm not going to answer that.
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No. -----------------------I dont work.
But most people pay because the government makes you pay (I know your going to say its not in the constitution), but no one wants to get arrested, so they pay, or they cheat if they can, but still no one (or many) admittingly not pay.
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As a Christian I am required to pay taxes. I do not believe tax evasion is righteous.
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Christians required to pay taxes? Charity yes but taxation is debatable especially when it is unconstitutional. If this helps, a friend of mine works in Washington and he told me, if he didn't work, in a very good position, for the IRS, he'd not pay income tax either....
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OK...Thanks for those who gave me some questions.
Here what's my question is about.
I recently found out that USA DOES NOT HAVE the law that enforces You,US citizens,to pay the income tax.Have you ever see the law that is forcing you to do this?
Such a law doesn't exist.
Ask your authorities to show you the law.
You are being robed by IRS which is collecting your money illegally.
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I'm not going to answer that.
Don't worry,I won't bite... :)
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OK...Thanks for those who gave me some questions.
Here what's my question is about.
I recently found out that USA DOES NOT HAVE the law that enforces You,US citizens,to pay the income tax.Have you ever see the law that is forcing you to do this?
Such a law doesn't exist.
Ask your authorities to show you the law.
You are being robed by IRS which is collecting your money illegally.
Believe me... There is a law which exists. Recently a famous actor was taken to court and lost. Also several evil gangsters were brought down by the FBI for tax evasion... Laws must exist, they have been exercised.
# Section 7201. Attempt To Evade Or Defeat Tax
# Section 7202. Willful Failure To Collect Or Pay Over Tax
# Section 7203. Willful Failure To File Return, Supply Information, Or Pay Tax
# Section 7204. Fraudulent Statement Or Failure To Make Statement To Employees
# Section 7205. Fraudulent Withholding Exemption Certificate Or Failure To Supply Information
# Section 7206. Fraud And False Statements
# Section 7207. Fraudulent Returns, Statements, Or Other Documents
# Section 7208. Offenses Relating To Stamps
# Section 7209. Unauthorized Use Or Sale Of Stamps
# Section 7210. Failure To Obey Summons
# Section 7211. False Statements To Purchasers Or Lessees Relating To Tax
# Section 7212. Attempts To Interfere With Administration Of Internal Revenue Laws
# Section 7213. Unauthorized Disclosure Of Information
# Section 7213A. Unauthorized Inspection Of Returns Or Return Information
# Section 7214. Offenses By Officers And Employees Of The United States
# Section 7215. Offenses With Respect To Collected Taxes
# Section 7216. Disclosure Or Use Of Information By Preparers Of Returns
# Section 7217. Prohibition On Executive Branch Influence Over Taxpayer Audits And Other Investigations
muman613
http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/famcases/capone/capone.htm
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_celebrities_have_been_convicted_of_tax_evasion&src=ansTT
http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/tax_evasion.html
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/26/subtitles/f/chapters/75/subchapters/a/parts/i/toc.html
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Christians required to pay taxes? Charity yes but taxation is debatable especially when it is unconstitutional. If this helps, a friend of mine works in Washington and he told me, if he didn't work, in a very good position, for the IRS, he'd not pay income tax either....
Yes paying taxes is required because not paying taxes is akin to stealing in the Christian viewpoint, at least the majority opinion.
People like Kent Hovind are in the minority and look what happened to him.
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OK...Thanks for those who gave me some questions.
Here what's my question is about.
I recently found out that USA DOES NOT HAVE the law that enforces You,US citizens,to pay the income tax.Have you ever see the law that is forcing you to do this?
Such a law doesn't exist.
Ask your authorities to show you the law.
You are being robed by IRS which is collecting your money illegally.
Believe me... There is a law which exists. Recently a famous actor was taken to court and lost. Also several evil gangsters were brought down by the FBI for tax evasion... Laws must exist, they have been exercised.
muman613
http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/famcases/capone/capone.htm
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_celebrities_have_been_convicted_of_tax_evasion&src=ansTT
Look,I know they forced you to pay,but there is no law that forces you.
Watch the documentary from Aaron Russo "America:Freedom to Fascism".
If there is a law then you can see it and it's your legal right to inform yourself about your duties.
So,I'll believe that something like that exist when I see it.I saw many US laws,and laws from other countries in the world,but i never saw such a law where it is explicitly written that it is your obligation to pay income tax.
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In the US there is a terrorist organization that is even more powerful and feared than Al Queda. It is known as the IRS, Internal Revenue Service.
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If there is a law then you can see it and it's your legal right to inform yourself about your duties.
So,I'll believe that something like that exist when I see it.I saw many US laws,and laws from other countries in the world,but i never saw such a law where it is explicitly written that it is your obligation to pay income tax.
The income tax is evil. They shouldn't collect it, but please, don't mess with the IRS. It's not worth it. We need JTFers to be free to do good in the world, not locked up.
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In the US there is a terrorist organization that is even more powerful and feared than Al Queda. It is known as the IRS, Internal Revenue Service.
Well,yes.I see you know.
But I was wondering how many US citizens are aware of the illegal collecting of its money?And were this money goes?
Russo is explicitly accusing bankers.
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In the US there is a terrorist organization that is even more powerful and feared than Al Queda. It is known as the IRS, Internal Revenue Service.
Well,yes.I see you know.
But I was wondering how many US citizens are aware of the illegal collecting of its money?And were this money goes?
Russo is explicitly accusing bankers.
Be careful, among stealthy anti-Semites "bankers" is often a code word for "Jews". I've learned this after reading a lot of conspiracy theory stuff that I figured out on my own was a bunch of bunk.
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If there is a law then you can see it and it's your legal right to inform yourself about your duties.
So,I'll believe that something like that exist when I see it.I saw many US laws,and laws from other countries in the world,but i never saw such a law where it is explicitly written that it is your obligation to pay income tax.
The income tax is evil. They shouldn't collect it, but please, don't mess with the IRS. It's not worth it. We need JTFers to be free to do good in the world, not locked up.
OK,if it is problem for you,then lock this topic.
But,I just want to say that I'm shocked of what are they doing and how there is no will and strength in people to resist and take the power in its own hands.
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If there is a law then you can see it and it's your legal right to inform yourself about your duties.
So,I'll believe that something like that exist when I see it.I saw many US laws,and laws from other countries in the world,but i never saw such a law where it is explicitly written that it is your obligation to pay income tax.
The income tax is evil. They shouldn't collect it, but please, don't mess with the IRS. It's not worth it. We need JTFers to be free to do good in the world, not locked up.
OK,if it is problem for you,then lock this topic.
But,I just want to say that I'm shocked of what are they doing and how there is no will and strength in people to resist and take the power in its own hands.
Most Americans support abolishing the IRS. We just want to make sure whatever other taxation system replaces it is fair and most of all keeps us from paying too much.
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In the US there is a terrorist organization that is even more powerful and feared than Al Queda. It is known as the IRS, Internal Revenue Service.
Well,yes.I see you know.
But I was wondering how many US citizens are aware of the illegal collecting of its money?And were this money goes?
Russo is explicitly accusing bankers.
Be careful, among stealthy anti-Semites "bankers" is often a code word for "Jews". I've learned this after reading a lot of conspiracy theory stuff that I figured out on my own was a bunch of bunk.
Is it important which their nationality is?
By the way,I know there are a lot of Jewish bankers.But those bankers are people like G.Soros.
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In the US there is a terrorist organization that is even more powerful and feared than Al Queda. It is known as the IRS, Internal Revenue Service.
Well,yes.I see you know.
But I was wondering how many US citizens are aware of the illegal collecting of its money?And were this money goes?
Russo is explicitly accusing bankers.
Be careful, among stealthy anti-Semites "bankers" is often a code word for "Jews". I've learned this after reading a lot of conspiracy theory stuff that I figured out on my own was a bunch of bunk.
Is it important which their nationality is?
By the way,I know there are a lot of Jewish bankers.But those bankers are people like G.Soros.
I don't think any individual should be immune from criticism if they do evil, but many of the conspiracy folks who talk about "bankers" are really talking about Jews and using other anti-Semitic code words. I just want you to be aware of this so that you can be careful as you read it not to agree with something you really don't.
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My banker is a goofy redneck baptist. I wish I had a Jewish banker.
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My banker is a goofy redneck baptist. I wish I had a Jewish banker.
Yeah they do a great job :)
I removed some information about my bank because I don't want idiots to find it.
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In the US there is a terrorist organization that is even more powerful and feared than Al Queda. It is known as the IRS, Internal Revenue Service.
Well,yes.I see you know.
But I was wondering how many US citizens are aware of the illegal collecting of its money?And were this money goes?
Russo is explicitly accusing bankers.
Be careful, among stealthy anti-Semites "bankers" is often a code word for "Jews". I've learned this after reading a lot of conspiracy theory stuff that I figured out on my own was a bunch of bunk.
Is it important which their nationality is?
By the way,I know there are a lot of Jewish bankers.But those bankers are people like G.Soros.
I don't think any individual should be immune from criticism if they do evil, but many of the conspiracy folks who talk about "bankers" are really talking about Jews and using other anti-Semitic code words. I just want you to be aware of this so that you can be careful as you read it not to agree with something you really don't.
I'm absolutely aware of that.You don't have to worry.
But their goal is anti-semitism using the picture and "deeds" of those criminals.
I'm not among them...
My question was not about the nationality of those groups so I could use it to spread anti-semitism.
After all,there are a lot of them who are not Jews.The nationality here doesn't meters.It's the question about legality and the corrupt system in USA that is gaining power on fraud and uses it in a very wrong way.
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Christians required to pay taxes? Charity yes but taxation is debatable especially when it is unconstitutional. If this helps, a friend of mine works in Washington and he told me, if he didn't work, in a very good position, for the IRS, he'd not pay income tax either....
Yes paying taxes is required because not paying taxes is akin to stealing in the Christian viewpoint, at least the majority opinion.
People like Kent Hovind are in the minority and look what happened to him.
I disagree. The gouvernment at least in my country does terrible sins with the money. And you have a part in this sins if you pay the taxes complete.
Plus welfare, that makes more than the half of the German national budget is not commanded by the bible. Charity is a personal issue, which you decide on your own. Where is otherwise the reward?
Paying taxes is only obligated by the bible for core gouvernmental tasks in order to make the society working.
I don't oppose to pay taxes in general, but actually it is stealing if some leftists politicians take away the hard earned money of righteous people and distribute it to lowlifes and muzzies in order to get more influence though this bribed voters.
This comes directly from the ten commandments and you have to put all sources together in order to get a judgement.
The gouvernment deserves no overstated respect. Actually they got their power from god and have act according to His directions. If they don't, we are not recommended to obey.
Not only the words of Jesus with the emperor and god. But also the statements of the moral law.
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I'm absolutely aware of that.You don't have to worry.
But their goal is anti-semitism using the picture and "deeds" of those criminals.
I'm not among them...
I didn't think you were. I just didn't know if you knew that some of the people who talk about this stuff are anti-Semitic.
After all,there are a lot of them who are not Jews.The nationality here doesn't meters.It's the question about legality and the corrupt system in
USA that is gaining power on fraud and uses it in a very wrong way.
You probably could make a watertight case that the IRS and the income tax are unconstitutional. I'd believe that too. However, they'd still have you thrown in jail if you don't pay your taxes. It's the sad state of America.
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I hope that one day we can all live in a world where the IRS can R.I.P. O0
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If Obama get's his way it's going to grow pretty big. He wants to increase income, reinstate the death tax and take the cap off of Social Security taxes. All of these things will lead the US right into a recession.
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I disagree. The gouvernment at least in my country does terrible sins with the money. And you have a part in this sins if you pay the taxes complete.
The U.S. government has done absolutely horrible things. The USA too had a eugenics program which destroyed lives:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics#Eugenics_in_the_United_States_.281890s.E2.80.931978.29
The most significant era of eugenic sterilization was between 1907 and 1963, when over 64,000 individuals were forcibly sterilized under eugenic legislation in the United States.
They did awful experiments on people in institutions such as giving radioactive breakfasts to children with Down's.
http://www.rense.com/general36/history.htm
Here's some other stuff:
1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite
1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.
1950 I n an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.
1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects.
and it goes on and on... the latest entry on the page is from 1995, when some "biological agents" were tested on prisoners. This in a country where prisoners are supposed to have civil rights, sometimes to a ridiculous degree, and yet their rights were taken away when this happened. This isn't crazy conspiracy stuff, it actually happened and continues to go on. Not everything on rense is true, but that stuff is.
Plus welfare, that makes more than the half of the German national budget is not commanded by the bible. Charity is a personal issue, which you decide on your own. Where is otherwise the reward?
I agree, these people should fend for themselves, and if truly unable, they should fall upon the mercy of private charities.
Paying taxes is only obligated by the bible for core gouvernmental tasks in order to make the society working.
I don't believe that income taxes are morally right, but I think as long as they're the law it's not right to avoid paying them. Most Americans are tired of this and want the law changed, and I know you want your country to change its laws too.
I don't oppose to pay taxes in general, but actually it is stealing if some leftists politicians take away the hard earned money of righteous people and distribute it to lowlifes and muzzies in order to get more influence though this bribed voters.
This comes directly from the ten commandments and you have to put all sources together in order to get a judgement.
The gouvernment deserves no overstated respect. Actually they got their power from G-d and have act according to His directions. If they don't, we are not recommended to obey.
Not only the words of Jesus with the emperor and G-d. But also the statements of the moral law.
I don't respect the government but I do follow the laws.
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Why anyone should be forced to pay "income taxes" is beyond me, income is required to pay bills and mortgages, sales tax is understandable, but income taxes are not constitutional, people that cite the law are referring to a amendment that was never ratified properly.
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Yes because it's the law..and if i didn't, I would go to jail.
Secondly, if you live in the USA, you don't live for free. You do your part to pay taxes here.
If you want to pay less taxes legally, get a good accountant, make smart investments and don't poke your head up in the air like you are a rich proud man, because the IRS will find you and ruin your life and your children's lives.
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You are the voice of reason Dr. Dan. Unfortunately we're forced to pay taxes if we don't want to get into big trouble. I don't want any of our wonderful JTFers to go to prison :(
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You are the voice of reason Dr. Dan. Unfortunately we're forced to pay taxes if we don't want to get into big trouble. I don't want any of our wonderful JTFers to go to prison :(
Listen, there are a lot of things the US govt does which we hate and don't understand at the same time. It's best not to start trouble....unless the US is doing nothing about a literal holocaust against Jews, Gd forbid, like what happened in Germany.
Some will argue that is taking place now in Israel..but it isn't. In Israel there is a war of attrition, no active concentration camps and active heinous murder.
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You are the voice of reason Dr. Dan. Unfortunately we're forced to pay taxes if we don't want to get into big trouble. I don't want any of our wonderful JTFers to go to prison :(
Listen, there are a lot of things the US govt does which we hate and don't understand at the same time. It's best not to start trouble....unless the US is doing nothing about a literal holocaust against Jews, Gd forbid, like what happened in Germany.
Some will argue that is taking place now in Israel..but it isn't. In Israel there is a war of attrition, no active concentration camps and active heinous murder.
One reason I like to read your posts Dr. Dan is that you always have very mature and level-headed responses. :)
You're correct.
I only posted some of the things the U.S. government did to show that even though governments are evil, or income taxes might be technically unconstitutional, we still have to pay them, because it's the law. Bottom line.
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Yes because it's the law..and if i didn't, I would go to jail.
Secondly, if you live in the USA, you don't live for free. You do your part to pay taxes here.
If you want to pay less taxes legally, get a good accountant, make smart investments and don't poke your head up in the air like you are a rich proud man, because the IRS will find you and ruin your life and your children's lives.
You know we fought the British to get rid of paying taxes to them, what was the point of the Boston tea party? One tyrant to another, our taxes are wasted on useless things like social programs, useless wars, and funding terrorist countries. *clap clap*
There are people who have gone to court and won, I can list on request.
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Yes because it's the law..and if i didn't, I would go to jail.
Secondly, if you live in the USA, you don't live for free. You do your part to pay taxes here.
If you want to pay less taxes legally, get a good accountant, make smart investments and don't poke your head up in the air like you are a rich proud man, because the IRS will find you and ruin your life and your children's lives.
You know we fought the British to get rid of paying taxes to them, what was the point of the Boston tea party? One tyrant to another, our taxes are wasted on useless things like social programs, useless wars, and funding terrorist countries. *clap clap*
There are people who have gone to court and won, I can list on request.
It is wrong to have to pay income taxes. It's more than wrong, it's stealing on the part of the government as Pheasant pointed out. However we still are forced to pay them until the laws change.
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Please enlighten me as I was raised Christian. Where in the NT does it say that one must pay taxes? The fact of the matter is that taxation on ones income is unconstitutional. Sure there has been a number of defunct legalities surrounding this but there is no law that requires one to fill out and submit an income tax form... My friend from the IRS sent me all the details concerning this. Further, there was a real Repulican and anti Establisment man in New Hampshire, if I'm not mistaken, that has challenged the government and has barracaded himself into his home. He's had a few interviews with the local media but the mainstream media will stay away from him because he's learned in Constitutional law and the individual rights of the American.
He's not paid taxes in a number of years and the IRS is coming after him but cannot file against him because there is no law requiring him to file income tax forms. The mainstream media has stayed away from him for fear that "he may be right" and "must not let the masses know that the filing of income tax forms is unconstitutional".
Can one imagine if 200 million people just decided to say hell with it and not file? Good for this fellow.
I cannot remember what his name was but there is videos on YouTube of him. This is one area where Ron Paul was 100% correct...
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Marzutra, just curious, but did you convert (you said you were raised Christian)?
Regarding the income tax, why does the man have to "barricade himself in his home" if it is all fine and dandy to not file. Obviously the IRS comes after the people who don't file..... What would happen if you or I just did not file this year? Wouldn't they break in and clean house?
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Shalom,
I dont know what the big deal is... I make good money and I dont really mind paying the taxes. Actually they withhold more than they need and every year I get a whopping refund check. I am against Obama being president because he would increase the taxes in my tax bracket.
If you really think that the USA is evil you should move to another country. Why would anyone want to live in a country which is so evil? I dont... There are many things our government has done which some may question. I have worked in the defense industry as has my fiance. We have worked on Black projects {top secret} and know that they are for the betterment of the defense of this country. I want a strong America. I want us to have the best and the most destructive weapons in the world. If we dont develop it, it will surely be developed by our enemies.
I pay my taxes as a proud American citizen and I spit on those who shirk their responsibility. I pay for the construction of roads, the building of schools, the building of hospitals and many other good things. It must be sad to live in a sad world...
muman613
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Marzutra, just curious, but did you convert (you said you were raised Christian)?
Regarding the income tax, why does the man have to "barricade himself in his home" if it is all fine and dandy to not file. Obviously the IRS comes after the people who don't file..... What would happen if you or I just did not file this year? Wouldn't they break in and clean house?
A Jewish family that threw off their Judaism, Jewishness and embraced political correctness due to small town Christian anti-Semitism. If that answers your first question.
It is not fine and dandy to not pay income tax. As a matter of fact there are cases where people who saught to challenge the government on this issue with intention of alerting the masses to this corruption, was totally distroyed by the arm of the Federal Government. First they sent in the IRS. Knowing that these people were legally correct they soon sent in the DEA and raided the home on suspected "drug/narcotics" charges. Then it became an entire convoluted legal battle between the framed citizens and the Federal Government which was a long drawn out and bankrupting process...
It is a very murkey subject in all honesty that is highly protected by the Federal Government Establishment. Income Tax was repeatedly found to be unconstitutional but the elitists have found a way around this during a time coinciding with another unconstitutional establishment: The Federal Reserve banking system/entity, to which Ron Paul was spot on... The IRS does come after people who do not pay income tax as being a form of pressure onto the individual citizen from the arm of the police state. There are a handful of landmark cases where people have taken the Federal government to court over this issue and have won. The fact that one can go down and view, not only the constitution itself but State tax laws to see that there is no law requiring one to file income tax forms. Sure there may be some law that says "you must pay income tax" but without any law requiring the filing of the income tax form negates the latter....
If you did not file, you'd receive a letter. If you did not file for 2-5 years they'd send an IRS agent. Pending they did send an IRS agent your response would be to say "I want to speak to my attorney". Then the IRS cannot do squat. The attorney will scan the tax legislation and see that there is no law requiring the submission of an income tax form. I believe it is the W2 form.
In Canada, for example, the Income Tax, like the States, was supposed to be a temporary measure to finance the deficit for the operations of WW1. WW2 came along so they kept it in to recapture the losses expended on funding the European campaign to which it was supposed to be repudiated when the debt was paid.
The fact that it was never repealed is solely a political abomination.
Further, if one cares to delve into factually correct specificity one will find that Marx both within his Das Kapital and Communist Manifesto called for a graduated income tax system....
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I don't have much of a choice if I value living in the outside world. ;)
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To Marzutra:
Hmm, very interesting.
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Income tax is a crime against humanity... pure and simple. You pay taxes on whatever you purchase. That should be enough, but to tax what one spends his hard earned to actually make is insulting. Leave it to a Communist to come up with this inept idea....
I totally understand. If it was a flat tax of 2-5%, I'd not worry much but here in Canada it is, like America, a graduated income tax. Thus if you work your butt off to provide for your family and be productive you are penalized by "winning" the responsibility of paying higher taxes.. If one makes over $100k/year automatically half goes to the goverment.... so what the heck is the reason to bother working hard?
........ing Communists... >:(
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Russo is explicitly accusing bankers.
I smell a rat here. Most people who invent conspiracies about "bankers" are rank Jew-haters who use codewords.
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Marzutra,
If you are so inclined, change it... I dont know what is accomplished by complaining like this. There is nothing which will make me ashamed to be an American. Our family has been in this country for three generations and we have flourished. My great grandfather came to USA with $20 in his pocket. My grandfather was successful in business. My father was an executive in Fortune 500 businesses. My brother worked on Wall Street and eventually worked at the top of the World Trade center for Cantor Fitzgerald. We have so much opportunity in this country. I feel I owe so much to our great country.
Aside from paying taxes I also donate over $6k a year to various charities. Taxes do not excuse a person from giving charity.
muman613
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Very observant. Time for you to challenge brother.... ;)
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This is one area where Ron Paul was 100% correct...
You're mistaken--there is not one single issue where Ron Nazi Paul is not 100% wrong. If anybody gives any pause to his insane lies and rants, and the IRS busts them for it, I don't feel sorry for them. They are idiots. He's mentally ill and so are all of his followers.
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Income tax is one thing. What is really an atrocity is tax on stock dividends, tax on interest, sales tax (notice not all states have it).... etc. Because in these cases, you are being taxed twice!
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This is one area where Ron Paul was 100% correct...
You're mistaken--there is not one single issue where Ron Nazi Paul is not 100% wrong. If anybody gives any pause to his insane lies and rants, and the IRS busts them for it, I don't feel sorry for them. They are idiots. He's mentally ill and so are all of his followers.
But he's not a cartoon. Some of what he says can be true...
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This is one area where Ron Paul was 100% correct...
You're mistaken--there is not one single issue where Ron Nazi Paul is not 100% wrong. If anybody gives any pause to his insane lies and rants, and the IRS busts them for it, I don't feel sorry for them. They are idiots. He's mentally ill and so are all of his followers.
So he's wrong on americans having the right to bear arms as well?
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So he's wrong on americans having the right to bear arms as well?
The only Americans he wants to have arms are German-Americans. He and his Dukeist friends don't even consider non-German Europeans to be white. ::)
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Marzutra, just curious, but did you convert (you said you were raised Christian)?
Regarding the income tax, why does the man have to "barricade himself in his home" if it is all fine and dandy to not file. Obviously the IRS comes after the people who don't file..... What would happen if you or I just did not file this year? Wouldn't they break in and clean house?
Actually there are many people who don't file, they prefer to give you penaltys galore and make more money out of you and then audit you after a couple of years.
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So he's wrong on americans having the right to bear arms as well?
The only Americans he wants to have arms are German-Americans. He and his Dukeist friends don't even consider non-German Europeans to be white. ::)
When did he say that? I don't back Ron Paul, but I don't recall him ever stating only German Americans had a right to bear arms.
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He doesn't have to. He is a German nationalist/"racial realist" in the vein of his mentor, David Duke. Duke's organization believes that Aryans/Teutons (those of the German ethnolanguage family) are the only true whites.
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Most people here in Flanders and Holland don't consider Moroccans or turks as whte neither.
Lots of people in Scandinavia don't consider Italians and other mediteranians as white neither.
Aside from that, I would not be in favour of blacks or muslims having the right to bear arms anywhere in the world.
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Marzutra,
If you are so inclined, change it... I dont know what is accomplished by complaining like this. There is nothing which will make me ashamed to be an American. Brother, this has nothing to do with being ashamed to be an American. It does however have something to do with an unconstitutional, and therefore un-American schema that was progressed/introduced by for a valid, however debatable, reason and kept due to corruption. Anything that is called for in the Communist Manifesto is, I would say, un-American. I love America more than I do Canada as Canada is like the Titanic in many respects. Don't get me wrong I'm still very pro-Canadian but our Government sure isn't just like yours is not pro-American...Our family has been in this country for three generations and we have flourished. My great grandfather came to USA with $20 in his pocket. My grandfather was successful in business. A highly comparable example relating to my great grandfather who walked from Kieve/Odessa in the 1880's, became a peddler in London to save to come to Canada. Came to Canada and started a small business and brought his siblings over as well and arranged marriage to the sister of a friend he met along the way in similar circumstances. Othodox man, meets Orthodox Man. Man tells plight of family back in the old country. The two went to the Rabbi here in St. John, New Brunswick who made contact with the Rabbi back in Russia...and the sister arrived and they married between 4-6 months later... ;).My father was an executive in Fortune 500 businesses. My brother worked on Wall Street and eventually worked at the top of the World Trade center for Cantor Fitzgerald. We have so much opportunity in this country. I feel I owe so much to our great country. I do as well and one of the biggest and most economically beneficial contributions would be to ask for the repeal of the Income Tax. That much more money in ones pocket would benefit the people much more than the fat salaries and financing the ever expanding beuracracy of the centralized federal government. Make no mistake about it. One can be very anti-income tax, anti-Immigration or anti-Establisment and be very pro-American.... I make no claim to my pro-American leanings I simply feel, as in Canada, that income tax is a crime and further the Establishements are very anti-American/Canadian as they are "progressing" all of the globalist and socialist policies that are distroying this, and your, nation... That's my point Muman. You are very correct in holding your views as they are the proper ones to hold...I'm simply pointing out a terrible tragedy, amongst many that is bringing down the once economic, civil and productive powerhouse this Earth has ever seen..
Aside from paying taxes I also donate over $6k a year to various charities. Taxes do not excuse a person from giving charity. That is 100% correct. Again brother, you are 100% correct. The socialist agenda/schema is designed to make people always rely on the government and not solving the problems, doing or being productive themselves. You hit the nail on the head. Charity is the moral position where one takes his hard earned and gives it to an entity, being of his/her individual choice. The Socialist/Communist idea is for the government to take...take...and take more then use those monies to whichever end they desire and not you. You as the citizen has no say where your monies are spent.
So instead of you donating your hard earned to help Jewish children recover after their parents were massacred by the Mohammadan Savages, your dollars are now sent to Mahmoud Abbas or Nasrallah as "Foreign Aid" or "Humanitarian Relief". Even the titles are Socialist/Humanitarian....
You know brother, if you want a very good read. Look up the article that was presented to Congress in 1884 I believe by Col. David Crockett: "Not Yours to Give". A very interesting read on the arguement between taxation and independant charity. Enjoy: "Not Yours to Give" by Col. David Crockett: http://patriotpost.us/histdocs/crockett_not_yours_to_give.asp
muman613
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Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments as well as their appearance. Greeks and Italians contributed a lot to the white race and the world.
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Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments as well as their appearance. Greeks and Italians contributed a lot to the white race and the world.
That's of course true, but in the North, people have reservations for these southern Europeans.
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Similarly to views held by the enlightened European Ashkenaz Jews towards their Sephard brethren...
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Marzutra,
If you are so inclined, change it... I dont know what is accomplished by complaining like this. There is nothing which will make me ashamed to be an American. Brother, this has nothing to do with being ashamed to be an American. It does however have something to do with an unconstitutional, and therefore un-American schema that was progressed/introduced by for a valid, however debatable, reason and kept due to corruption. Anything that is called for in the Communist Manifesto is, I would say, un-American. I love America more than I do Canada as Canada is like the Titanic in many respects. Don't get me wrong I'm still very pro-Canadian but our Government sure isn't just like yours is not pro-American...Our family has been in this country for three generations and we have flourished. My great grandfather came to USA with $20 in his pocket. My grandfather was successful in business. A highly comparable example relating to my great grandfather who walked from Kieve/Odessa in the 1880's, became a peddler in London to save to come to Canada. Came to Canada and started a small business and brought his siblings over as well and arranged marriage to the sister of a friend he met along the way in similar circumstances. Othodox man, meets Orthodox Man. Man tells plight of family back in the old country. The two went to the Rabbi here in St. John, New Brunswick who made contact with the Rabbi back in Russia...and the sister arrived and they married between 4-6 months later... ;).My father was an executive in Fortune 500 businesses. My brother worked on Wall Street and eventually worked at the top of the World Trade center for Cantor Fitzgerald. We have so much opportunity in this country. I feel I owe so much to our great country. I do as well and one of the biggest and most economically beneficial contributions would be to ask for the repeal of the Income Tax. That much more money in ones pocket would benefit the people much more than the fat salaries and financing the ever expanding beuracracy of the centralized federal government. Make no mistake about it. One can be very anti-income tax, anti-Immigration or anti-Establisment and be very pro-American.... I make no claim to my pro-American leanings I simply feel, as in Canada, that income tax is a crime and further the Establishements are very anti-American/Canadian as they are "progressing" all of the globalist and socialist policies that are distroying this, and your, nation... That's my point Muman. You are very correct in holding your views as they are the proper ones to hold...I'm simply pointing out a terrible tragedy, amongst many that is bringing down the once economic, civil and productive powerhouse this Earth has ever seen..
Aside from paying taxes I also donate over $6k a year to various charities. Taxes do not excuse a person from giving charity. That is 100% correct. Again brother, you are 100% correct. The socialist agenda/schema is designed to make people always rely on the government and not solving the problems, doing or being productive themselves. You hit the nail on the head. Charity is the moral position where one takes his hard earned and gives it to an entity, being of his/her individual choice. The Socialist/Communist idea is for the government to take...take...and take more then use those monies to whichever end they desire and not you. You as the citizen has no say where your monies are spent.
So instead of you donating your hard earned to help Jewish children recover after their parents were massacred by the Mohammadan Savages, your dollars are now sent to Mahmoud Abbas or Nasrallah as "Foreign Aid" or "Humanitarian Relief". Even the titles are Socialist/Humanitarian....
You know brother, if you want a very good read. Look up the article that was presented to Congress in 1884 I believe by Col. David Crockett: "Not Yours to Give". A very interesting read on the arguement between taxation and independant charity. Enjoy: "Not Yours to Give" by Col. David Crockett: http://patriotpost.us/histdocs/crockett_not_yours_to_give.asp
muman613
Marzutra,
I understand your position and I apologize if I was implying you are anti-american/anti-candadian... It would be excellent if we could make a tax system which is fair to everyone. I believe that is your intention.
muman613
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Absolutely Muman! Ending of income tax on the individual income but institute a standard tax system on the individual/corporate purchases and business profits as profits are not income. I simply find it sad that so many of the Communist planks have been progressed via questionable means onto all of the once productive and relatively moral abiding and civilized Western World... We are not only loosing our individuality but nationality, culture, language, rights and even private property, in my opinion will be severely hindered. As the base income of the American falls, the dollar becomes worthless, their expenses rise, jobs flee due to "Free Trade" or filled by illegals one will lose their private homes and forced into "cheaper" "collective" housing: aka: appartments... Only the few will be able to comfortably support a family living in a single dwelling with land...etc....
My prediction of the West if this Socialist insanity is not confronted. Sorry for the gloom and doom but this is how I see America and Canada by the time I reach retirement...
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Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments
Huh? What does that even mean? Someone accomplishes something it means we can classify them as "white" ? That is insane. If someone accomplishes something, we can classify them as successful, but their skin color can be anything. Was Louis Armstrong therefore white? He was afterall one of the best trumpet players in history! So he was "white" with black skin??? That is just insane.
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Most people here in Flanders and Holland don't consider Moroccans or turks as whte neither.
Lots of people in Scandinavia don't consider Italians and other mediteranians as white neither.
Aside from that, I would not be in favour of blacks or muslims having the right to bear arms anywhere in the world.
I think northern africa is a mix up, as for turkey, I would definitely not consider them white, they look central asian.
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CF, not at all. If you look at Ron Paul's views on income tax, federal reserve and his non-anti-Establishment agenda he'd have been the only one to support. I could give or take his foreign policy and his benightedness on Islam specifically but one must also not the fact that if an Orthodox Jew took an intensely nationalist position agaisnt the Establisment, closing the borders, throwing out the illegals etc. etc. he'd also get much support from the "White Suprs" as well. If I'm not mistaken they supported Barry Goldwater.
My point is, America needs a non, and even better anti, Establisment individual in the whitehouse to stop this Elitist lead International Socialist agenda that has been undermining the Constitution and the American people since Woodrow Wilson. I agree to disagree with you brother.
If one took the absolute worst case synerio and Paul was a "Nazi" that would be a blessing in that he'd get Israel off the American dole, and further be working as a tool of HaShem to bring about mass Aliyah to Eretz Yisrael. May redemption come....and the sooner the better... O0
Should you disagree with this position, t'is ok my friend... This is one man's opinion... ;)
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Why? I don't want a cell mate named Bruno telling me how pretty I look every morning! >:( :::D
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Why? I don't want a cell mate named Bruno telling me how pretty I look every morning! >:( :::D
Do you take the upper bunk or the lower bunk?
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Why? I don't want a cell mate named Bruno telling me how pretty I look every morning! >:( :::D
Do you take the upper bunk or the lower bunk?
I'd be the psycho path nobody's desperate to touch or look at! ^-^
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Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments
Huh? What does that even mean? Someone accomplishes something it means we can classify them as "white" ? That is insane. If someone accomplishes something, we can classify them as successful, but their skin color can be anything. Was Louis Armstrong therefore white? He was afterall one of the best trumpet players in history! So he was "white" with black skin??? That is just insane.
No I was saying that they contributed so much to the white race that'd it's silly to exclude Southern Europeans. They're just as white as other European indigenous people.
Also part of what I meant is that by accomplishing so much and having such complex societies they were "acting white" (as opposed to living in mud huts) so that should put to rest any doubts.
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Aren't there legal ways to prevent paying income tax? I heard if you donate to charities and stuff.
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Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments
Huh? What does that even mean? Someone accomplishes something it means we can classify them as "white" ? That is insane. If someone accomplishes something, we can classify them as successful, but their skin color can be anything. Was Louis Armstrong therefore white? He was afterall one of the best trumpet players in history! So he was "white" with black skin??? That is just insane.
No I was saying that they contributed so much to the white race that'd it's silly to exclude Southern Europeans. They're just as white as other European indigenous people.
Also part of what I meant is that by accomplishing so much and having such complex societies they were "acting white" (as opposed to living in mud huts) so that should put to rest any doubts.
Some Southern Europeans are darker than some north-Africans...
So for me, generally speaking of course, the most white are the Scandinavian people, and the most black are the Africans somwhere around Congo or so.
All the rest is in between that.
The further to the East from West-Europe, the more Mogoloid the people are.
So a 21st century Swede is generally speaking of a lighter skin and hair color than a typical 21th century Greek (in these days Greeks are heavily mixed with Turks etc,...)
Of course if the third world immigration maddness goes on, in a couple of decades, (20 or so ) blond people will be as extinct as red- haired people are already today.
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G-d bless the IRS. ;)
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Some Southern Europeans are darker than some north-Africans...
So for me, generally speaking of course, the most white are the Scandinavian people, and the most black are the Africans somwhere around Congo or so.
All the rest is in between that.
The further to the East from West-Europe, the more Mogoloid the people are.
So a 21st century Swede is generally speaking of a lighter skin and hair color than a typical 21th century Greek (in these days Greeks are heavily mixed with Turks etc,...)
Of course if the third world immigration maddness goes on, in a couple of decades, (20 or so ) blond people will be as extinct as red- haired people are already today.
I feel sad for Greek people being so heavily mixed today. Did their nation really die out, or are there still relatively pure Greeks around? :(
I only have Celtic (Irish, English, Scottish) and German blood as far as I know. I'm very light and my sister is so pale she could glow in the dark almost.
I saw a Web page one time that showed Southern European models that were tanned and not tanned. When they were tanned, they appeared to have olive colored skinned but when they weren't tanned their skin was as pale as any other white person's. Could it simply be that Southern Europe has stronger sun?
My father has tan-colored skin on every exposed part from working outside for many years in Texas. You can tell he's Irish and German by the shape of his facial features and his hazel eyes. When he takes his shirt off you can tell he's naturally pale like my sister and I.
Anyway I just thought I'd throw that out there as one possibility why many of them could be darker skinned.
I've made jokes about trying to pass as a white Spaniard and changing my name so that I could be classified as "Hispanic" when I go job hunting, so I won't be discriminated against. Many people here in America are unfortunately stupid enough not to know the difference between white Spaniards and Mexicans. There's a problem with my diabolical plan though... I just don't have their facial structure at all so I could never pass for Spanish. lol
One more question, do the people who consider Meds nonwhite treat Nordics or Alpines who mary Meds as if they were race mixing?
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I feel sad for Greek people being so heavily mixed today.
I think the original ethnic Greek of 300 years ago is not the same as the todays average Greek. As are the original Romans, Celths, ... they all intermarried in Englan, France,....
Did their nation really die out, or are there still relatively pure Greeks around? :(
I suppose there genes dwell somewhere from Spain to Persia....
I only have Celtic (Irish, English, Scottish) and German blood as far as I know. I'm very light and my sister is so pale she could glow in the dark almost.
Than you're British-German looking. Good O0 It is not a crime to be proud of one's family lines.
I saw a Web page one time that showed Southern European models that were tanned and not tanned. When they were tanned, they appeared to have olive colored skinned but when they weren't tanned their skin was as pale as any other white person's.
People with blond (I mean almost white) hair and blue eyes, such as the Fins, the Swedes, get easily burned in the sun.
They have less pigment, and therefore people that live 1000-2000-3000-4000km to the south will gradually have
more brown-black hair/green eyes. Blond Hiar+ Blue eyes like Swedish people become gradually less comon in Denmark, althoug still very dominant, in Germany (of course an awful lot of non-Europeans that are about to interbreed!) in the North, people are usually blond too.
In the middle of Europe, lots of people are blond, but they are "darker blond" i.e. gradations between white-yellow-light brown... In Russia there are also lot of blond people. (Vikings that went on "business trips" in Russia)
Could it simply be that Southern Europe has stronger sun?
yes, these people there never needed to adapt to the climate of the north (where there is a period of 6 months of darkness, as did the Scandinavians... With a darker skin there, you'd lack vit. D absorption, and become easier sick ...
My father has tan-colored skin on every exposed part from working outside for many years in Texas. You can tell he's Irish and German by the shape of his facial features and his hazel eyes. When he takes his shirt off you can tell he's naturally pale like my sister and I.
Anyway I just thought I'd throw that out there as one possibility why many of them could be darker skinned.
I've made jokes about trying to pass as a white Spaniard and changing my name so that I could be classified as "Hispanic" when I go job hunting, so I won't be discriminated against. Many people here in America are unfortunately stupid enough not to know the difference between white Spaniards and Mexicans. There's a problem with my diabolical plan though... I just don't have their facial structure at all so I could never pass for Spanish. lol
One more question, do the people who consider Meds nonwhite treat Nordics or Alpines who mary Meds as if they were race mixing?
Well, Nordic people are quite reserved, they will not tell you such things, unless you know them quite well.
They emphasize on culture, and language first, as a condition to be accepted as an immigrant there.
Of course, that is also more politically correct, and less racist than telling you dislike people because of their colour.
But, to my experience, indeed, people from Denmark and Sweden could consider someone who marries an Italian as a race-mixer.
Danish women and men, are more radically against intermarriage with non-Europeans than Swedes , btw...
Denmark is rather right-wing. Sweden rather left-wing...
Holland is lost, There is a lot of blond women with half [censored]-babies... compare it with USA... Obama's mother types....
France (of course majority brown haired) is intermingling at a staggering rate with North-Africans...an black africans.. Germany less, but the inner cities in the south, and the Ruhr-Gebiet, (industrial hearth of Germany),
are filled with non-Europeans....
Belgium... what can I say... not as bad as Holland, but Brussel (capital of Europe's new Soviet-Union) is 56% non-European...
I guess the politicians, after the WWII wanted to proove they were no nazis, by letting in millions of non-Europeans...
Now we see, we are in a similar situation as the Native americans were...
Only, we facilitate the enemy...
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Thanks for explaining all that Ambiorix. I think what really upsets me is to prove they're not Nazis, they're allowing a complete genocide of our race.
Is there any sign of a resistance at all?
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I just don't get how people can think these folks aren't white...
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/GMA/nm_batali_071220_ms.jpg)
This is Mario Batali. He doesn't exactly look like an Arab.
(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2007/07/13/picasso4602.jpg)
Pablo Picasso, looks like any old white guy you'd see at the supermarket in this picture.
I guess if most of the white people you encounter are blonde, blue eyed and very pale though, I could see how people might consider these people as "other", but I don't think it's fair for anyone to say they're a completely different racial group.
At any rate I always thought of the diversity of the white race as being one of its best qualities. That we don't need non-white diversity, we've got all the eye and hair colors within our race and a range of skin tones as well (although all fairly pale).
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Look at the nose on that fellow.... He must be a Jooo ;)
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Look at the nose on that fellow.... He must be a Jooo ;)
I think that idiot Nazi George Lincoln Rockwell thought Picasso was Jewish. lol Goes to show how stupid Nazis are.
There's a French guy I work with who has a big nose like that.
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There is a good story I was reading in Martin Gilbert's book "The Holocaust", I believe, where Herr Schickelgruber: Hitler, held an Aryan poster child search throughout all Germany. A Jewess sent a picture in of her child, this is during the anti-semitic pogroms, after Kristalnaught, in to be judged. The Reich chose her child due to the "Aryan" features: blonde hair, blue eyes and fair skin..
After its printing in the papers they found out it was a Jew..... Of course the picture was pulled but.... as far as I know the story is truthful and a good example of how, in many cases, the "racial" theories can become farcical...
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There is a good story I was reading in Martin Gilbert's book "The Holocaust", I believe, where Herr Schickelgruber: Hitler, held an Aryan poster child search throughout all Germany. A Jewess sent a picture in of her child, this is during the anti-semitic pogroms, after Kristalnaught, in to be judged. The Reich chose her child due to the "Aryan" features: blonde hair, blue eyes and fair skin..
After its printing in the papers they found out it was a Jew..... Of course the picture was pulled but.... as far as I know the story is truthful and a good example of how, in many cases, the "racial" theories can become farcical...
The child was probably almost entirely pure German by blood and Jewish by Halacha.
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Nope, apparently 100% Kosher... German Jew. Simply introduce Herr Hitler to a flaw in his and the Nazi race ideology...
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Nope, apparently 100% Kosher... German Jew. Simply introduce Herr Hitler to a flaw in his and the Nazi race ideology...
I'm sure they were Jewish. Anyone with a Jewish mother is Jewish. However someone 100% Jewish could have 99% Ethiopian blood or 99% German blood or 99% Asian blood, etc. It's Halacha that determines Jewishness, not genetics. The child's mother could also have been a convert and the child would still have been 100% Jewish.
I think Hitler was stupid to say that all Jews aren't white. Some Jews are white, and that picture would have proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. That's why they had to remove it. It didn't sit well with their stupid Nazi ideas.
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Nope, apparently 100% Kosher... German Jew. Simply introduce Herr Hitler to a flaw in his and the Nazi race ideology...
I'm sure they were Jewish. Anyone with a Jewish mother is Jewish. However someone 100% Jewish could have 99% Ethiopian blood or 99% German blood or 99% Asian blood, etc. It's Halacha that determines Jewishness, not genetics. The child's mother could also have been a convert and the child would still have been 100% Jewish.
I think Hitler was stupid to say that all Jews aren't white. Some Jews are white, and that picture would have proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. That's why they had to remove it. It didn't sit well with their stupid Nazi ideas.
Yes you are right about Halacha. If one had 99% Etheopian (Hamitic) blood they'd be black. This kid was blonde with blue eyes and fair skin.
Most Jews: Ashkenazim and Sefaradim are "White". When one is discussing "race" and Jews there is a very big misconception here. Over the vast breadth of time and numerous conquests, pogroms, inquisitions, crusades and racial laws etc. Jews have had their share of unwilling sperm recipients which is why you see Jews with an extensive documented heritage with red hair or the aforementioned blonde.
In most cases the discussion of "race" is very informative as specifically applied to the Asian, Caucasian (from the Caucasus) and Semites, Negro-Arab: Hamites what is very difficult is to identify "race" amongst peoples like the Jews or even the Gypsies due to their long diaspora. The Gypsies, for example, stem from the Hind (India) and are/were Hindus which fled from Islamic invasions, forced conversions, slavery and massacre.
Biblically Jews are Shechemites and Arabs are Hamites but today in many respects it is a difficult situation.
I may well be entirely wrong on this as this is from my memory of my former readings....
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I always thought of Jews as being a people who weren't a race but functioned as a race in the sense of being one people and identity in common despite not having a homeland for so many years. I wouldn't view a white and black Jew together in the same way I would a white and black Gentile, although both would make me uncomfortable. There is a genetic connection between separated Jewish groups as well, as I mentioned before.
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There is an arguement about cases of a genetic history between many Jews but not all by any means. Anyone who accepts the yoke of Heaven: Torah, is a Jew. Picture it as a Nation with a common culture, common faith and now a homeland. If a Negro from Khartoum, an Arab from Dubai or Joe Smith from Ashland Kentucky decided to embrace Torah and become a Ga'ar (pronounced g-air): convert they would be just as Jewish as any other Jew. Obviously there would be racial/genetic differences being Caucasian and Hamite.
This is one of the tragedies of Jewish history and being a subjugated people. No matter how much the Jew, according to Halacha, advocates nationalism, individual identity and keeping culture and faith alive amongst their own there has been many examples of exploitations under their rulers. In the Islamic world as "dhimmi" many Jewish families had their familes distroyed and/or vanquished by the Mohammadan conquerer. Many examples being the massacres of all males over the age of 13 and the children and women sold into slavery, herems and what not with obvious intentions of forced conversions and bastard mongrel Children, often raised Jewish by the mothers...
This happened time and again, rapes during the crusades, pogroms and inquisitions etc. which has, in many cases, molested the argument of a DNA link... Now there are a few families that can trace their lines back to antiquity; two being in Israel and one in London England.
I will not keep you.. just my two cents... :)
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Having a direct line of descent from ancient Jews is important for Cohens, isn't it?
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Having a direct line of descent from ancient Jews is important for Cohens, isn't it?
Are Adam and Eve Jewish?
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Having a direct line of descent from ancient Jews is important for Cohens, isn't it?
Are Adam and Eve Jewish?
If they were two literal people they would have been created way before Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob.
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No Adam and Eve were not Jews. They were the first Righteous People who had lived as one with G-d until the first of their sin. The first to be recognized as a Jew was Abraham.
Personally, I am convinced the only hope the Jews have is we must restore the the House of David to a Constitutional Monarchy. The Jewish people now that they are back in the land of Israel must demand it and must initiate the steps. We have today several household's from the right family that can meet the criteria: the Ben Zlonims of Jerusalem, the Val-Malaks of Haifa, the Ben-Shonens of London are all genuine descendeds of David but even more important we have a genuine Tzaddik and Nabi back in Israel, the Annshever Rebbe whom could be authorized to interview and choose a candidate from one of those families and anoint him.
His first task would be to apporach the courts and use the law to confirm him, then he could notify the president that Israel needs constituency (once the court would be forced to confirm him the president would be his servant) based house for him to choose a prime-minister, the kenesset could be a propoprtional representation second chamber to review legislation before it became law. His task would be foreign policy.
Today we, especially Secular Jews, don't think kings are politically correct, but the Torah says for Jews it is their only way, and even with deterioration over time the average Jewish monarchy lasted between 4 and 500 years.
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OK...Thanks for those who gave me some questions.
Here what's my question is about.
I recently found out that USA DOES NOT HAVE the law that enforces You,US citizens,to pay the income tax.Have you ever see the law that is forcing you to do this?
Such a law doesn't exist.
Ask your authorities to show you the law.
You are being robed by IRS which is collecting your money illegally.
Hi Kerber, all working citizens of the United States of America have to pay taxes...we give our social security numbers for this reason. Why are we being ripped off like this? I will explain. Our Liberals insist that we pay for all social programs and that includes paying for illegal aliens as well. The Government cannot afford these social programs so they take it from us ....with the help of the Liberals of course. Now I don't mind being taxed to pay for our Military and Troops, our Police and Firefighters, but being taxed and double taxed to pay for illegal aliens is outrageous.
Liberals are so openminded, their brains have fallen out of their heads. I don't know who made that saying but it's true.
Shalom from Dox and welcome to the Forum
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Liberals are so openminded, their brains have fallen out of their heads.
That is most emphatically true. I'm sitting here listening to Savage on 760KFMB and he is playing speaches from the Democrat Convention.... How true this statement is....
Bloody savages... Communists and Mohammadans....
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Liberals are so openminded, their brains have fallen out of their heads.
That is most emphatically true. I'm sitting here listening to Savage on 760KFMB and he is playing speaches from the Democrat Convention.... How true this statement is....
Bloody savages... Communists and Mohammadans....
Question: What do Liberals and Apples have in common?
Answer: They both look good hanging from Trees!
Shalom from Dox :)
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Liberals are like slinkies. Not good for anything, but they still make you smile when you push one down the stairs.
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Those are both fabulous..... I must remember those.... I wish there was one American that would sue the major media for bias and creating public opinion rather than simply reporting public opinion..
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” - Winston Churchill
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Liberals are like slinkies. Not good for anything, but they still make you smile when you push one down the stairs.
Now that would be fun ! :::D