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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Zionistforever on August 26, 2008, 11:18:19 PM
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
:::D i know how bad this sounds but i want revenge. i have been taunted my whole life, ask any of my true friends (coincedently jewish too) even a lunch room aid when this weasel said i wonder if he should be sent to a camp where he could concentrate. my school sucks :'(
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
C F !!! You took the words right out of my mouth ..... O0
P.S. Zionest, you need to file a police report stat and go to the principal for a formal complaint.
Get your evidence together so you can take C F 's advise if this harassment does not stop.
Shalom from Dox
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
C F !!! You took the words right out of my mouth ..... O0
P.S. Zionest, you need to file a police report stat and go to the principal for a formal complaint.
Get your evidence together so you can take C F 's advise if this harassment does not stop.
Shalom from Dox
ok i have lots of evidence, the worst part i let it slide sometimes because they claim to be my friends but it really really bothers me, :-[ no i doesnt bother me i hate it, i cant live with it anymore :(
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
C F !!! You took the words right out of my mouth ..... O0
P.S. Zionest, you need to file a police report stat and go to the principal for a formal complaint.
Get your evidence together so you can take C F 's advise if this harassment does not stop.
Shalom from Dox
ok i have lots of evidence, the worst part i let it slide sometimes because they claim to be my friends but it really really bothers me, :-[ no i doesnt bother me i hate it, i cant live with it anymore :(
Then you can and will do something about this. You have only 2 choices, give up and be a victim or fight this legally. Good Luck.
Shalom from Dox
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Oh, I'm sorry this happens to you.
Keep your chin up and try not let them get you down- or at least let it show that they're upsetting you.
If they see you're really upset, this makes them worse. That's what they want.
Maybe you and your Jewish friends could all go around everywhere in a group?
I would certainly report this to the authorities at school. Most schools have a policy now against bullying.
They are so cruel for making fun of the holcaust.
Good luck.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Is this junior high or high school?
Have you had a meeting with the principal and/or teachers about this yet?
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
instead of meekly letting them do w/e they do, stand up for yourself.
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
C F !!! You took the words right out of my mouth ..... O0
P.S. Zionest, you need to file a police report stat and go to the principal for a formal complaint.
Get your evidence together so you can take C F 's advise if this harassment does not stop.
Shalom from Dox
no, no police reports, no authorities. Stand up to them.
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
C F !!! You took the words right out of my mouth ..... O0
P.S. Zionest, you need to file a police report stat and go to the principal for a formal complaint.
Get your evidence together so you can take C F 's advise if this harassment does not stop.
Shalom from Dox
no, no police reports, no authorities. Stand up to them.
I don't know how old he is, but a friend of mine was being bullied alot in middle school. He went to the police station and asked them for help.
He came to school the next day with a cop who sat and ate lunch with him at the cafeteria a few times. He wasn't bullied after that.
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While it wasn't based on ethnicity or religion, I was also treated as if I were a piece of garbage when I was in Jr. High. I was just shy and found it difficult to initiate conversations, plus I wasn't really interested in the same things other kids were.
The school did nothing to protect me. What finally helped was getting out of public school and doing home school. It's not very hard and you can always take community college classes for anything you might have missed out on. Community college has remedial courses. All I ended up having to take was remedial math but then after I did I was able to pass through Calculus I in community college.
You should be able to study on your own and earn a GED that will let you get into college later.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
instead of meekly letting them do w/e they do, stand up for yourself.
That doesn't always work. Besides if he fights back then the stupid school administration will make him out to be the bad guy. When I "stood up for" myself, I ended up getting punched in the face repeatedly.
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I know people here wont condone it but you need to fight and fight DIRTY if you have to.Show them you wont take there crap anymore
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Don't drop out of school, bud. One must stand up to bullies, but it depends on what age level. At a certain age the bullies become "thugs" and can be very dangerous if you are not skilled in fighting arts or weaponry. In that case if you are worried your life may be in danger, certainly file reports to the proper authorities, police and/or principal, but in the general sense a bully has to be stood up to.
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Don't drop out of school, bud. One must stand up to bullies, but it depends on what age level. At a certain age the bullies become "thugs" and can be very dangerous if you are not skilled in fighting arts or weaponry. In that case if you are worried your life may be in danger, certainly file reports to the proper authorities, police and/or principal, but in the general sense a bully has to be stood up to.
Yeah If he has to go for the eyes
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
C F !!! You took the words right out of my mouth ..... O0
P.S. Zionest, you need to file a police report stat and go to the principal for a formal complaint.
Get your evidence together so you can take C F 's advise if this harassment does not stop.
Shalom from Dox
no, no police reports, no authorities. Stand up to them.
Dealing with the agressors legally might be his only option, especially since he has asked them to stop already. No one wants a legal jam, especially not the school for failure to protect his rights and schools do not want bad publicity. The mere mention of a lawsuit may be enough to resolve the problem.
He could take your advise and fight them on his own terms, but this will get him expelled as well as the bullies.
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
C F !!! You took the words right out of my mouth ..... O0
P.S. Zionest, you need to file a police report stat and go to the principal for a formal complaint.
Get your evidence together so you can take C F 's advise if this harassment does not stop.
Shalom from Dox
no, no police reports, no authorities. Stand up to them.
Dealing with the agressors legally might be his only option, especially since he has asked them to stop already. No one wants a legal jam, especially not the school for failure to protect his rights and schools do not want bad publicity. The mere mention of a lawsuit may be enough to resolve the problem.
He could take your advise and fight them on his own terms, but this will get him expelled as well as the bullies.
i doubt he would get expelled for just 1 fight. Might get some detention, or at most a suspension.
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
C F !!! You took the words right out of my mouth ..... O0
P.S. Zionest, you need to file a police report stat and go to the principal for a formal complaint.
Get your evidence together so you can take C F 's advise if this harassment does not stop.
Shalom from Dox
no, no police reports, no authorities. Stand up to them.
Dealing with the agressors legally might be his only option, especially since he has asked them to stop already. No one wants a legal jam, especially not the school for failure to protect his rights and schools do not want bad publicity. The mere mention of a lawsuit may be enough to resolve the problem.
He could take your advise and fight them on his own terms, but this will get him expelled as well as the bullies.
i doubt he would get expelled for just 1 fight. Might get some detention, or at most a suspension.
I depends how bad was the fight
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My point is that if it was as simple as "stand up to them" don't you think he wouldn't be asking for help here? At least if he gets out of the situation then he can feel immediately safer and it won't really hurt him academically as long as he knows how to study.
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My point is that if it was as simple as "stand up to them" don't you think he wouldn't be asking for help here? At least if he gets out of the situation then he can feel immediately safer and it won't really hurt him academically as long as he knows how to study.
The picks I put up are self defense Items he can buy and carry which are not against the law
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My point is that if it was as simple as "stand up to them" don't you think he wouldn't be asking for help here? At least if he gets out of the situation then he can feel immediately safer and it won't really hurt him academically as long as he knows how to study.
The picks I put up are self defense Items he can buy and carry which are not against the law
That doesn't mean the school won't try to send him to juvie for bringing in "weapons". There was this one kid at my school who was treated horribly. Abused, abused, abused.... chased and teased, and threatened. The school did nothing to protect him either. So one day he brought a gun to school and waved it at his attackers. Suddenly he was the bad guy, and they sent him to juvie. It wasn't his fault! They should have protected him!
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My point is that if it was as simple as "stand up to them" don't you think he wouldn't be asking for help here? At least if he gets out of the situation then he can feel immediately safer and it won't really hurt him academically as long as he knows how to study.
The picks I put up are self defense Items he can buy and carry which are not against the law
That doesn't mean the school won't try to send him to juvie for bringing in "weapons". There was this one kid at my school who was treated horribly. Abused, abused, abused.... chased and teased, and threatened. The school did nothing to protect him either. So one day he brought a gun to school and waved it at his attackers. Suddenly he was the bad guy, and they sent him to juvie. It wasn't his fault! They should have protected him!
Yes but if telling a teacher does not work he has to stand up and fight back
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My point is that if it was as simple as "stand up to them" don't you think he wouldn't be asking for help here? At least if he gets out of the situation then he can feel immediately safer and it won't really hurt him academically as long as he knows how to study.
Dropping out of school IS NOT an answer to being bullied at school!
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My point is that if it was as simple as "stand up to them" don't you think he wouldn't be asking for help here? At least if he gets out of the situation then he can feel immediately safer and it won't really hurt him academically as long as he knows how to study.
Dropping out of school IS NOT an answer to being bullied at school!
It depends on how bad it is. Personally I got death threats. It sounds as if the people he has to be around could be very dangerous too, if they're making jokes about concentration camps. Being in that kind of situation can wear you down spiritually and emotionally and sometimes the things people say can sink in and be internalized, causing lasting damage. The whole point of going to school is to get an education, and in that environment he can't learn. He could always hang out with other Jewish people or other friendly people on his own time in order to have friendships and social contact. He doesn't need this [censored] in his life.
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My point is that if it was as simple as "stand up to them" don't you think he wouldn't be asking for help here? At least if he gets out of the situation then he can feel immediately safer and it won't really hurt him academically as long as he knows how to study.
Dropping out of school IS NOT an answer to being bullied at school!
It depends on how bad it is. Personally I got death threats. It sounds as if the people he has to be around could be very dangerous too, if they're making jokes about concentration camps. Being in that kind of situation can wear you down spiritually and emotionally and sometimes the things people say can sink in and be internalized, causing lasting damage. The whole point of going to school is to get an education, and in that environment he can't learn. He could always hang out with other Jewish people or other friendly people on his own time in order to have friendships and social contact. He doesn't need this drek in his life.
You were getting Death threats why?
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I can't recommend attempting to fight back against these guys physically (unless it is self-defense and there is no other option at the moment) under any circumstances. They certainly deserve to get a donkey-whupping, and will get far more than that in the afterlife, but in the here and now, you almost certainly will go down instead of the bullies, particularly if the bullies are members of a "minority" group. That's the way morally relativistic "zero-tolerance" policies for school violence go: they are specifically designed to give school administrations a way not to crack down on true delinquents. While eight-year-old girls are getting expelled for bringing butterknives in their lunch boxes, Mara Salvatrucha and South Side Crips are permitted to strut and roam (and rule) hallways and fields unmolested, backed by the full protection of principals and the ACLU alike. >:(
You must fight back professionally and legally, Zionistforever. There is no other option. I know it's hard to control your temper when these pigs are attacking you, but it may be very much worth it financially to you someday soon. My advice would be to book an appointment with the principal and perhaps school board at all costs, and let them know on no uncertain terms (with full documentation) what is happening. Tell them that your civil rights are being violated and that without any resolution, that you will seek a legal rectification. If you have a normal school district, that should make them crap their drawers right there. If not--follow through on your threat and cry all the way to the bank. ;)
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You were getting Death threats why?
This one girl had some kind of thing against me but I had no idea why. She just decided that she wanted to kill me.
Other kids surrounded me one day and threatened to push me off the balcony on the second floor, they blocked off all my escape routes and only shouting on my part got them to back off because they realized they wouldn't get to do it anonymously.
There was also a rumor going around that I was a lesbian because I didn't have sex with boys, even though I definitely was not a lesbian, so that could have caused some people to want to murder me.
I don't want this thread to be about me though, let's focus on Zionistforever. I agree with C.F. He should fight back legally. However I also think he should get out of the situation physically before it escalates further and he gets really hurt.
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You were getting Death threats why?
This one girl had some kind of thing against me but I had no idea why. She just decided that she wanted to kill me.
Other kids surrounded me one day and threatened to push me off the balcony on the second floor, they blocked off all my escape routes and only shouting on my part got them to back off because they realized they wouldn't get to do it anonymously.
There was also a rumor going around that I was a lesbian because I didn't have sex with boys, even though I definitely was not a lesbian, so that could have caused some people to want to murder me.
I don't want this thread to be about me though, let's focus on Zionistforever. I agree with C.F. He should fight back legally. However I also think he should get out of the situation physically before it escalates further and he gets really hurt.
I am sorry that happened
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I am sorry that happened
It's ok now that we're both adults the one girl apologized to me recently when I saw her working at Whataburger. lol I told her it was ok and I forgave her. She had problems of her own. I imagine others also had their own backlash. ;D
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My point is that if it was as simple as "stand up to them" don't you think he wouldn't be asking for help here? At least if he gets out of the situation then he can feel immediately safer and it won't really hurt him academically as long as he knows how to study.
Dropping out of school IS NOT an answer to being bullied at school!
It depends on how bad it is. Personally I got death threats. It sounds as if the people he has to be around could be very dangerous too, if they're making jokes about concentration camps. Being in that kind of situation can wear you down spiritually and emotionally and sometimes the things people say can sink in and be internalized, causing lasting damage. The whole point of going to school is to get an education, and in that environment he can't learn. He could always hang out with other Jewish people or other friendly people on his own time in order to have friendships and social contact. He doesn't need this drek in his life.
Shalom Ruby, I am sorry to hear you went through this. I got slugged by a black girl in College, I honestly did nothing to provoke the attack. I think they may have been jealous of you for some good qualities you have. Anyhow it's a horrible experience.
Shalom from Dox
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I'm so sorry you have to be experiencing this, I hate bullies myself... >:(
The FIRST thought that went through my mind was TALK TO A LAWYER!!!!!!
Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
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Let us know how you're doing again when you can and what you decide to do.
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Let face it if zionist forever was a fighter he would'nt be picked on even by a group,so now what can he do? see a psyciatrist and tell the psych you're going to flip out if this continues just to have it on record your anger het an axe handle and outside of school hit them and poke them in the head, knee,stomach under the arm and some other places.The reason i say an axe handel is because you can use both ends in stabbing motion the length to block and you can use either end as a bludgeon
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Let face it if zionist forever was a fighter he would'nt be picked on even by a group,so now what can he do? see a psyciatrist and tell the psych you're going to flip out if this continues just to have it on record your anger het an axe handle and outside of school hit them and poke them in the head, knee,stomach under the arm and some other places.The reason i say an axe handel is because you can use both ends in stabbing motion the length to block and you can use either end as a bludgeon
Yes Mord speaks with wisdom.
You have to do it this way. You will feel a lot of better and you will get your self-confidence and honour back. Pick the most evil of them and try to meet him alone. If you are physical weaker you must have the element of surprise on your side. And don't hesitate if you have decided to do this. You have to be quick.
And please don't kill the guy or disable him. But obviously he deserves a hard punishment.
After this his friends will have respect from you. :)
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Did we have any members from New Jersey? Perhaps they could help Zionist forever ???
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I live in n.y. not far from N.J. but if i beat up little kids i'll get in trouble
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Legal action is the only thing I can think of.
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I live in n.y. not far from N.J. but if i beat up little kids i'll get in trouble
Yes I agree.
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Legal action is the only thing I can think of.
I remember my childhood very well. At one point the teachers and parents have convinced me really of this "violence is no solution".
I tried it at age 14 one year. ::)
At this age you are very ashamed if teachers and authorities have to help you. If you are dependent on them. If you are a girl, it is not so bad. But if you are a young man, it is more shamefull than everything.
I agree, that you should not run amok or attack every person who is a little bit evil to you. But such people, like we have here, know no end in their evil deeds, if they don't face raw violence at a certain point. Child can be very evil, imo more than adults.
I remebered very well the moment I fought back and I think today sometimes about it. I feel pure pride. :)
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Let face it if zionist forever was a fighter he would'nt be picked on even by a group,so now what can he do? see a psyciatrist and tell the psych you're going to flip out if this continues just to have it on record your anger het an axe handle and outside of school hit them and poke them in the head, knee,stomach under the arm and some other places.The reason i say an axe handel is because you can use both ends in stabbing motion the length to block and you can use either end as a bludgeon
It can get taken away and then he could get bludgeoned by it.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
instead of meekly letting them do w/e they do, stand up for yourself.
ZionistForever... are you in college?
Tell ya what.. When in HS I got the living tar beat out of me.. I didnt know what to do, my mom told me: Go back and kick every one of their a--es one by one, I did, they NEVER bothered me again. You may have to fight these idiots.. How many lawsuits do you want in your life? It is BETTER to get in a little trouble and fight them, then have to deal with lawsuits.
You need to write EVERY EVENT DOWN. (time and dates) when you will have to show faculty members- b/c you may have to defend yourself..
Go and try to get into self-defense classes.
G-d NEVER called ANY of his children to be walked on, EVER.
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If you have a cell phone call 911 and tell them you are under attack as the events happen. Once the police show up at the school responding to a 911 call, the school faculty will be very motivated to see that the issues is addressed.
Get these events documented by police reports. You will be a very wealthy young man.
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This has probably been mentioned already, but you should probably talk to your parents and have them talk to the school. Have your parents tell the school to talk to the parents of the kids that are bullying you. That should be your first step.
You also might want to take up martial arts as a way of defending yourself. They are probably bullying you as a group, if you have to fight,(please try avoid fighting at all costs) try to beat up the toughest kid in the group, if you succeed the others kids will leave you alone.
But the most important thing is to have your parents talk to the school and have the school talk to the bullies parents.
I hope everything works out for you.
Stay safe.
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I second that. You must avoid fighting these guys unless your life is in immediate danger. You would lose, being so heavily outnumbered, and besides you will be punished more severely than they will because you are Jewish (and you definitely will if they are nonwhite).
You must, perhaps with the help of your parents, have a firm conference with school administration where you mention the possibility of legal action to protect your civil rights. But you must be ready to back up this threat!
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Is this junior high or high school?
Have you had a meeting with the principal and/or teachers about this yet?
this is junior high, i have tried to tell, but it blew back into my face, one kid told me to stop polluting the air with my jewish smoke ( a reference to creamatoriums at aushwitz, where my grandmother died) i was so pissed i made a fat joke, and they (by they i mean the school administration) say i am as bad as him wtf, he said something i consider a hate crime and i make a comment on his appearence and i am the bully ?
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Like I said, schedule a conference with administration ASAP, and be very firm, and make a legal threat to them.
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Don't drop out of school, bud. One must stand up to bullies, but it depends on what age level. At a certain age the bullies become "thugs" and can be very dangerous if you are not skilled in fighting arts or weaponry. In that case if you are worried your life may be in danger, certainly file reports to the proper authorities, police and/or principal, but in the general sense a bully has to be stood up to.
i aprreciate everyones support for me, but i have tried i have tried to stand up to bullies, a neo nazi entered my school this year he heard i was jewish and he bullied me into letting him cut me, he knew i was a little bit affraid of him ( you would be affraid of a spychopath to) one day i got up the courage, and i looked up his myspace for anything, a weakness, something i could use to my advantage but i turned up nothing. the next day at school the bastard tripped me in the lunch room and i got food all over my clothing, my best friend (moshe) reminded me i should stick up for myself or it will never end, and he reminded me of all the crap this guy had pulled on me. i thought of the swastikas that were all over his myspace, i was stoked, pissed, determined and i had had the last straw. with food all over my shirt i grabbed him by his collar and said ENOUGH IS ENOUGH STOP THIS IMEDIATLEY I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY MORE OF YOUR ****. he smuggly just laughed in my face and said what are you going to do tell on me, throw your torah at me ? you jews have no back bone thats why the holocaust happened remember. ( this is really bad of me and i have thought over what i said about a thousand times in my head. i really am ashamed of what i said, and i will never repeat it.) i threatened him. he treated me differently afterwards.
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You were getting Death threats why?
This one girl had some kind of thing against me but I had no idea why. She just decided that she wanted to kill me.
Other kids surrounded me one day and threatened to push me off the balcony on the second floor, they blocked off all my escape routes and only shouting on my part got them to back off because they realized they wouldn't get to do it anonymously.
There was also a rumor going around that I was a lesbian because I didn't have sex with boys, even though I definitely was not a lesbian, so that could have caused some people to want to murder me.
I don't want this thread to be about me though, let's focus on Zionistforever. I agree with C.F. He should fight back legally. However I also think he should get out of the situation physically before it escalates further and he gets really hurt.
I am sorry that happened
so am i, its horrible the way others treated you, and treat i :-[
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I live in n.y. not far from N.J. but if i beat up little kids i'll get in trouble
i thank you for the thought of me though (lol i will say your just really big for your age :::D)
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There was recently a poll done that showed the majority of Blacks are armed with a knife or gun. They won't hesitate to use it against you either since the leftist laws are in their favor. If the school officials do nothing take it to the police.
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Zionistforever, I'm so sorry to hear about how these disgusting pigs are bullying you. I agree with the others that you tell the principal, and that you should have your parents consult a lawyer. The threat of a lawsuit should get the principal to do something.
Also, this might sound like kooky idea, but why not trying calling up your local chapter of the ACLU. Sometimes they actually help good people. Tell them that you are being harassed because of your religion, and that the school is doing nothing to protect you. Who knows? They might actually sue the school on your behalf as well.
Or if you let us know where in New Jersey your school is, maybe I can call them ask if that's something they can help you with.
And I agree with the others here that you should take a self defense course. Also, get yourself over to the gym, and start lifting weights. If anything you'll be able to move around with more confidence knowing that you are strong, and that you can defend yourself.
Let me know if you want me to call the ACLU for you.
Lisa
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its not just one group that hates me, i feel like it is everyone in my class, grade, sometimes even the school. i mean once a student that would make hitler proud organized 13-20 students that marched in perfect unison acrouse the play ground (its more like a field) the other students were goose steping and saying SEIG HEIL, SEIG HEIL. it is one attack that will really be with me forever. i am always depressed when i think about it. the kid who lead the march one threatened he had a hitler youth dagger that he fully intended to use on me if i dont keep my jewry away from him. i kept clear of him untill one day he tripped me during the pledge of allegience and i fell and i had to go to the office (aka the princepals). i cracked his locker open with a lock pick, and the next day i showed the school all the nazi parafanalia he had in his locker. he was expelled, and before that we had a huge assembly and all the jewish students ( me and four others) were all seated together on stage while the neo nazi begged for our forgivness over a microphone, i would have spat on him, but i would be the bad guy so i shook his hand.
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In what town of New Jersey is your school located?
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its not just one group that hates me, i feel like it is everyone in my class, grade, sometimes even the school. i mean once a student that would make hitler proud organized 13-20 students that marched in perfect unison acrouse the play ground (its more like a field) the other students were goose steping and saying SEIG HEIL, SEIG HEIL. it is one attack that will really be with me forever. i am always depressed when i think about it. the kid who lead the march one threatened he had a hitler youth dagger that he fully intended to use on me if i dont keep my jewry away from him. i kept clear of him untill one day he tripped me during the pledge of allegience and i fell and i had to go to the office (aka the princepals). i cracked his locker open with a lock pick, and the next day i showed the school all the nazi parafanalia he had in his locker. he was expelled, and before that we had a huge assembly and all the jewish students ( me and four others) were all seated together on stage while the neo nazi begged for our forgivness over a microphone, i would have spat on him, but i would be the bad guy so i shook his hand.
You mean it's not just Blacks who are doing this? It doesn't matter I think you need to take legal action. The schools are incompetent.
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Zionistforever, I'm so sorry to hear about how these disgusting pigs are bullying you. I agree with the others that you tell the principal, and that you should have your parents consult a lawyer. The threat of a lawsuit should get the principal to do something.
Also, this might sound like kooky idea, but why not trying calling up your local chapter of the ACLU. Sometimes they actually help good people. Tell them that you are being harassed because of your religion, and that the school is doing nothing to protect you. Who knows? They might actually sue the school on your behalf as well.
Or if you let us know where in New Jersey your school is, maybe I can call them ask if that's something they can help you with.
And I agree with the others here that you should take a self defense course. Also, get yourself over to the gym, and start lifting weights. If anything you'll be able to move around with more confidence knowing that you are strong, and that you can defend yourself.
Let me know if you want me to call the ACLU for you.
Lisa
i just wanted to thank you all (and lisa thats not nessacery lol) i have scared off maybe ten other bullies O0 i showed your comments and support, and i told them if you mess with me again i have a forum of angry supporters on my side. ^-^ :::D
ps. i lift 150 lbs on bench and work out all the time. also i wouldnt want to preform a lawsuit for 3 reasons
1. if i sue it makes me look even more jewish in there eyes, only humiliation works to get them to back down (or fear apparently)
2. i have finaly gone threw puberty so i might just intimidate them O0
3. if i were to contact a lawyer, this would probably be front page material, and i know new jersey has had a long history of neo nazis, so it would be best not to have a neo nazi reanact columbine at my school
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How did they find out you're Jewish? Is it your name?
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its not just one group that hates me, i feel like it is everyone in my class, grade, sometimes even the school. i mean once a student that would make hitler proud organized 13-20 students that marched in perfect unison acrouse the play ground (its more like a field) the other students were goose steping and saying SEIG HEIL, SEIG HEIL. it is one attack that will really be with me forever. i am always depressed when i think about it. the kid who lead the march one threatened he had a hitler youth dagger that he fully intended to use on me if i dont keep my jewry away from him. i kept clear of him untill one day he tripped me during the pledge of allegience and i fell and i had to go to the office (aka the princepals). i cracked his locker open with a lock pick, and the next day i showed the school all the nazi parafanalia he had in his locker. he was expelled, and before that we had a huge assembly and all the jewish students ( me and four others) were all seated together on stage while the neo nazi begged for our forgivness over a microphone, i would have spat on him, but i would be the bad guy so i shook his hand.
try white protestand children.
You mean it's not just Blacks who are doing this? It doesn't matter I think you need to take legal action. The schools are incompetent.
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In what town of New Jersey is your school located?
to be honest id rather not say. as much as you are all concerned for me i would rather not make this a huge thing because if newspapers are contacted they will blow it out of proportion and that could just encourage violence
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Is this junior high or high school?
Have you had a meeting with the principal and/or teachers about this yet?
this is junior high, i have tried to tell, but it blew back into my face, one kid told me to stop polluting the air with my jewish smoke ( a reference to creamatoriums at aushwitz, where my grandmother died) i was so pissed i made a fat joke, and they (by they i mean the school administration) say i am as bad as him wtf, he said something i consider a hate crime and i make a comment on his appearence and i am the bully ?
I would file a police report as soon as you can. Do you have a youth officer at your school? Do you know any policemen in your town that could come to school with you? (my friend did this years ago and it worked).
Another suggestion is to completely ignore everything they do. Kids your age hate being ignored-they might move onto someone else.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Is this junior high or high school?
Have you had a meeting with the principal and/or teachers about this yet?
this is junior high, i have tried to tell, but it blew back into my face, one kid told me to stop polluting the air with my jewish smoke ( a reference to creamatoriums at aushwitz, where my grandmother died) i was so pissed i made a fat joke, and they (by they i mean the school administration) say i am as bad as him wtf, he said something i consider a hate crime and i make a comment on his appearence and i am the bully ?
I would file a police report as soon as you can. Do you have a youth officer at your school? Do you know any policemen in your town that could come to school with you? (my friend did this years ago and it worked).
Another suggestion is to completely ignore everything they do. Kids your age hate being ignored-they might move onto someone else.
now that the majority have stopped, because i think word of our community is spreading, i will try that. thanks O0
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Well then the next time one of those creeps starts up with you, fight back with all your strength.
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How did they find out you're Jewish? Is it your name?
i wear my yamacha every day with pride, no nazi scum could stop my pride for judaism. also my last name is jewish
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Well then the next time one of those creeps starts up with you, fight back with all your strength.
thank you and i will O0
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i just wanted to thank everyone, you have all comforted me, you have helped me feel brave, and i feel empowered with all of you. hashem bless you all, hashem bless jtf, and all you members O0
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One more suggestion. I don't recommend fighting because of the weapon issue but I have a raptor stun gun and oh my god is this effective. It completely locks up your muscles and you can't even move. If you have to fight this will scare the living daylights out of them. Don't use pepper spray because on a windy day it can get blown back to your face.
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One more suggestion. I don't recommend fighting because of the weapon issue but I have a raptor stun gun and oh my G-d is this effective. It completely locks up your muscles and you can't even move. If you have to fight this will scare the living daylights out of them. Don't use pepper spray because on a windy day it can get blown back to your face.
any weapon what so ever in my school could get me expelled
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Use it after school. I don't even think it's legal in the state of New Jersey but you should use a weapon only if they take out a weapon.
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stun guns are only legal to law enforcement officials :-\ and they have done an excellent job keeping me safe ::)
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
:::D i know how bad this sounds but i want revenge. i have been taunted my whole life, ask any of my true friends (coincedently jewish too) even a lunch room aid when this weasel said i wonder if he should be sent to a camp where he could concentrate. my school sucks :'(
I'd pull a Hebrew Hammer on their @$$, stop playing victim and start fighting back.
They want you to be a victim and laugh at you because you won't do anything, there were a lot of Jews during the holocaust who stood in the lines waiting to be put in gas chambers thinking if they played nice, they would live, you going to be that kind of Jew? I didn't take that crap in school and neither should you.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Sorry to here this. How old are you? This is why every parent should consider private school, ESPECIALLY in cases like yours. My public school was very tolerant, but then again... I never wore a yamacha, so I'd imagine what you have to deal with is horrible.
When I was in Junior High, My Hindu friend came to our school, and his parents made him wear his hair in a traditional hindu style, and he was picked on like I'd never seen before. He only did that for a week, but I can't imagine how he would have felt if he had to deal with that every day. Kids can be awful... especially when it comes to appearance and clothes.
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
:::D i know how bad this sounds but i want revenge. i have been taunted my whole life, ask any of my true friends (coincedently jewish too) even a lunch room aid when this weasel said i wonder if he should be sent to a camp where he could concentrate. my school sucks :'(
I'd pull a Hebrew Hammer on their @$$, stop playing victim and start fighting back.
They want you to be a victim and laugh at you because you won't do anything, there were a lot of Jews during the holocaust who stood in the lines waiting to be put in gas chambers thinking if they played nice, they would live, you going to be that kind of Jew? I didn't take that crap in school and neither should you.
lol coincedently i am called the hebrew hammer in football, i have to take there crap, if i fight back, and words are really worthless in this case, i may be suspended, or expelled, my threat against that neo nazi was that bad.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Sorry to here this. How old are you? This is why every parent should consider private school, ESPECIALLY in cases like yours. My public school was very tolerant, but then again... I never wore a yamacha, so I'd imagine what you have to deal with is horrible.
When I was in Junior High, My Hindu friend came to our school, and his parents made him wear his hair in a traditional hindu style, and he was picked on like I'd never seen before. He only did that for a week, but I can't imagine how he would have felt if he had to deal with that every day. Kids can be awful... especially when it comes to appearance and clothes.
my parents do not force the yamacha on me, i wear it as a symbol of my faith and pride. and i am fourteen and have been puting up with this for 3 years.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Sorry to here this. How old are you? This is why every parent should consider private school, ESPECIALLY in cases like yours. My public school was very tolerant, but then again... I never wore a yamacha, so I'd imagine what you have to deal with is horrible.
When I was in Junior High, My Hindu friend came to our school, and his parents made him wear his hair in a traditional hindu style, and he was picked on like I'd never seen before. He only did that for a week, but I can't imagine how he would have felt if he had to deal with that every day. Kids can be awful... especially when it comes to appearance and clothes.
also i could attend a private school, but it is a catholic school. and i dont know of any other jews attending there so what would happen to me if another attack occured who would i travel with as a group. ???
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stun guns are only legal to law enforcement officials :-\ and they have done an excellent job keeping me safe ::)
Do you really think if they take out a knife or gang up on you you'd be better off with no stun gun? If you use one you may be punished but are less likely to be harmed. If you don't use one you won't be punished but can be harmed. Besides what are they going to say "You shouldn't have used it even though your life was in danger?" According to the lefties you should just lay down and die when attacked. Brass knuckles may also be effective.
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this falls again under the weapon issue, damned if i do, damned if i dont >:(
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
:::D i know how bad this sounds but i want revenge. i have been taunted my whole life, ask any of my true friends (coincedently jewish too) even a lunch room aid when this weasel said i wonder if he should be sent to a camp where he could concentrate. my school sucks :'(
I'd pull a Hebrew Hammer on their @$$, stop playing victim and start fighting back.
They want you to be a victim and laugh at you because you won't do anything, there were a lot of Jews during the holocaust who stood in the lines waiting to be put in gas chambers thinking if they played nice, they would live, you going to be that kind of Jew? I didn't take that crap in school and neither should you.
lol coincedently i am called the hebrew hammer in football, i have to take there crap, if i fight back, and words are really worthless in this case, i may be suspended, or expelled, my threat against that neo nazi was that bad.
Just like you have a fear of being expelled or suspended (you'll likely get dentention or ISS at most), we have a fear from the police in the real world for defending ourselves. You need to defend your life, if they take your yamacha, reach for it and grab it back, if they take the first swing, unload on their ass and give them a fat lip in the shape of a bagel for their trouble. O0
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stun guns are only legal to law enforcement officials :-\ and they have done an excellent job keeping me safe ::)
Do you really think if they take out a knife or gang up on you you'd be better off with no stun gun? If you use one you may be punished but are less likely to be harmed. If you don't use one you won't be punished but can be harmed. Besides what are they going to say "You shouldn't have used it even though your life was in danger?" According to the lefties you should just lay down and die when attacked. Brass knuckles may also be effective.
weapon, and i dont know what to do. if i fight using krav maga then i cant be suspended. but i am at a very basic level in training soo... any advice ?
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
:::D i know how bad this sounds but i want revenge. i have been taunted my whole life, ask any of my true friends (coincedently jewish too) even a lunch room aid when this weasel said i wonder if he should be sent to a camp where he could concentrate. my school sucks :'(
I'd pull a Hebrew Hammer on their @$$, stop playing victim and start fighting back.
They want you to be a victim and laugh at you because you won't do anything, there were a lot of Jews during the holocaust who stood in the lines waiting to be put in gas chambers thinking if they played nice, they would live, you going to be that kind of Jew? I didn't take that crap in school and neither should you.
lol coincedently i am called the hebrew hammer in football, i have to take there crap, if i fight back, and words are really worthless in this case, i may be suspended, or expelled, my threat against that neo nazi was that bad.
Just like you have a fear of being expelled or suspended (you'll likely get dentention or ISS at most), we have a fear from the police in the real world for defending ourselves. You need to defend your life, if they take your yamacha, reach for it and grab it back, if they take the first swing, unload on their donkey and give them a fat lip in the shape of a bagel for their trouble. O0
:::D :::D i once flipped a kid over my back because he called me a judenbengel or judenbengal.
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Sounds like if the school doesn't crack down fast, you have an awfully big civil-rights lawsuit on your hands. Do you wanna get rich? ;)
:::D i know how bad this sounds but i want revenge. i have been taunted my whole life, ask any of my true friends (coincedently jewish too) even a lunch room aid when this weasel said i wonder if he should be sent to a camp where he could concentrate. my school sucks :'(
I'd pull a Hebrew Hammer on their @$$, stop playing victim and start fighting back.
They want you to be a victim and laugh at you because you won't do anything, there were a lot of Jews during the holocaust who stood in the lines waiting to be put in gas chambers thinking if they played nice, they would live, you going to be that kind of Jew? I didn't take that crap in school and neither should you.
lol coincedently i am called the hebrew hammer in football, i have to take there crap, if i fight back, and words are really worthless in this case, i may be suspended, or expelled, my threat against that neo nazi was that bad.
Just like you have a fear of being expelled or suspended (you'll likely get dentention or ISS at most), we have a fear from the police in the real world for defending ourselves. You need to defend your life, if they take your yamacha, reach for it and grab it back, if they take the first swing, unload on their donkey and give them a fat lip in the shape of a bagel for their trouble. O0
:::D :::D i once flipped a kid over my back because he called me a judenbengel or judenbengal.
What race are the kids? White? Black? Mexican?
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white protestant, and catholics
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Do you wear any boots? I used to wear a set of steel toed boots, a kick in the leg scares the little punks away. Do you dress really nerdy with your head down or keep to yourself? That makes easy picking, kids with low self esteem are easily tormented by sociopath jocks who have nothing better to do than get a thrill out of their friends by picking on kids who can't fight back. If you make a stand, shows you aren't backing down. People have this horrible image of Jews being the bookworms who become lawyers and doctors who can't fight, do you want people to think of you that way? Sure you might lose a fight or two, but what have you got to lose? You can claim self defense if they took the first swing, the school wants to threaten you with any consequences, threaten legal action for violating your civil rights and self defense, the last thing a school needs is a civil lawsuit on their hands over self defense and the media loves that kinda stuff.
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white protestant, and catholics
Do they know Jesus was Jewish? John the Baptist was also Jewish.
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weapon, and i dont know what to do. if i fight using krav maga then i cant be suspended. but i am at a very basic level in training soo... any advice ?
Just use it if your life is in danger. If they check your bags then don't get one but if you're sure you can conceal it buy one. I own this one it is lightweight and small:http://www.familyfirstsecurity.com/raptor-stun-mini-975000-volts-p-167.html (http://www.familyfirstsecurity.com/raptor-stun-mini-975000-volts-p-167.html). I used it on someone once and he fell to the floor hard and stayed down for 3 minutes.
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i am a jock, i play football, and baseball. i dress like a skateboarder i guess is the best way to put it.i asked a friend if he thought i was tough, he said yeah, your probably the strongest kid in the school, i dont understand why people arent afraid of me, or have repsect of me.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Is this junior high or high school?
Have you had a meeting with the principal and/or teachers about this yet?
this is junior high, i have tried to tell, but it blew back into my face, one kid told me to stop polluting the air with my jewish smoke ( a reference to creamatoriums at aushwitz, where my grandmother died) i was so pissed i made a fat joke, and they (by they i mean the school administration) say i am as bad as him wtf, he said something i consider a hate crime and i make a comment on his appearence and i am the bully ?
I would file a police report as soon as you can. Do you have a youth officer at your school? Do you know any policemen in your town that could come to school with you? (my friend did this years ago and it worked).
Another suggestion is to completely ignore everything they do. Kids your age hate being ignored-they might move onto someone else.
That's just asking for trouble, I tried that in middle school ignoring bullies, it was even worse. You can't pretend a tiger isn't in front of you when your in the jungles of Africa. Anyways, I sat there quietly and bullies used to toss [censored] at my head or book me, whatever they could to get my attention, it doesn't work. Gotta be careful with who you fight with too, with some blacks or mexicans they might be affiliated with gangs and they'll attempt to jump you with their gang of buddies. Whites, ehh it's not as common, most whites wouldn't help their own kind if a group of people were beating down one of their own.
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weapon, and i dont know what to do. if i fight using krav maga then i cant be suspended. but i am at a very basic level in training soo... any advice ?
Just use it if your life is in danger. If they check your bags then don't get one but if you're sure you can conceal it buy one. I own this one it is lightweight and small:http://www.familyfirstsecurity.com/raptor-stun-mini-975000-volts-p-167.html (http://www.familyfirstsecurity.com/raptor-stun-mini-975000-volts-p-167.html). I used it on someone once and he fell to the floor hard and stayed down for 3 minutes.
That'll definitely get him expelled, possibly criminal charges, not smart. I urge you to refrain from recommendations like that.
But for kicks and giggles, I wonder if tossing a dreidel at the little bastards heads would count as a weapon?
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That'll definitely get him expelled, possibly criminal charges, not smart. I urge you to refrain from recommendations like that.
I said if his life is in danger.
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Let face it if zionist forever was a fighter he would'nt be picked on even by a group,so now what can he do? see a psyciatrist and tell the psych you're going to flip out if this continues just to have it on record your anger het an axe handle and outside of school hit them and poke them in the head, knee,stomach under the arm and some other places.The reason i say an axe handel is because you can use both ends in stabbing motion the length to block and you can use either end as a bludgeon
Last thing he wants is to be forcefully committed to a mental institution or have something like that on his record which would prevent him from ever owning a firearm in the future if he chose to purchase one thanks to the new NRA/Brady backed bill >:(
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weapon, and i dont know what to do. if i fight using krav maga then i cant be suspended. but i am at a very basic level in training soo... any advice ?
Just use it if your life is in danger. If they check your bags then don't get one but if you're sure you can conceal it buy one. I own this one it is lightweight and small:http://www.familyfirstsecurity.com/raptor-stun-mini-975000-volts-p-167.html (http://www.familyfirstsecurity.com/raptor-stun-mini-975000-volts-p-167.html). I used it on someone once and he fell to the floor hard and stayed down for 3 minutes.
That'll definitely get him expelled, possibly criminal charges, not smart. I urge you to refrain from recommendations like that.
But for kicks and giggles, I wonder if tossing a dreidel at the little bastards heads would count as a weapon?
:::D :::D once they found one and threw it at me, they dubbed the name hit the jew
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Remember Bernhard Goetz? He was mugged twice and took a stand. He bought an illegal gun and used it against these beasts the third time. They gave him jail time but he could've been killed.
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i am laughing at that idea, and i have to leave, i will be on to discuss this later :)
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Is this junior high or high school?
Have you had a meeting with the principal and/or teachers about this yet?
this is junior high, i have tried to tell, but it blew back into my face, one kid told me to stop polluting the air with my jewish smoke ( a reference to creamatoriums at aushwitz, where my grandmother died) i was so pissed i made a fat joke, and they (by they i mean the school administration) say i am as bad as him wtf, he said something i consider a hate crime and i make a comment on his appearence and i am the bully ?
I would file a police report as soon as you can. Do you have a youth officer at your school? Do you know any policemen in your town that could come to school with you? (my friend did this years ago and it worked).
Another suggestion is to completely ignore everything they do. Kids your age hate being ignored-they might move onto someone else.
That's just asking for trouble, I tried that in middle school ignoring bullies, it was even worse. You can't pretend a tiger isn't in front of you when your in the jungles of Africa. Anyways, I sat there quietly and bullies used to toss drek at my head or book me, whatever they could to get my attention, it doesn't work. Gotta be careful with who you fight with too, with some blacks or mexicans they might be affiliated with gangs and they'll attempt to jump you with their gang of buddies. Whites, ehh it's not as common, most whites wouldn't help their own kind if a group of people were beating down one of their own.
I guess the bullies in my yuppie town were different. They moved on if you didn't react to them.
I don't like pacifism though. If he fights back, the school will attack him for using self defense-as he said before with the fat joke.
I think he should have some sort of security escort.
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weapon, and i dont know what to do. if i fight using krav maga then i cant be suspended. but i am at a very basic level in training soo... any advice ?
Just use it if your life is in danger. If they check your bags then don't get one but if you're sure you can conceal it buy one. I own this one it is lightweight and small:http://www.familyfirstsecurity.com/raptor-stun-mini-975000-volts-p-167.html (http://www.familyfirstsecurity.com/raptor-stun-mini-975000-volts-p-167.html). I used it on someone once and he fell to the floor hard and stayed down for 3 minutes.
That'll definitely get him expelled, possibly criminal charges, not smart. I urge you to refrain from recommendations like that.
But for kicks and giggles, I wonder if tossing a dreidel at the little bastards heads would count as a weapon?
:::D :::D once they found one and threw it at me, they dubbed the name hit the jew
Don't know how old you are, but have you ever considered trying boxing or mixed martial arts? You should take classes on brazilian jujitsu. Krav Maga is great as well, but it depends who is teaching you. There are a lot of teachers trying to bank in on the Krav Maga name. If there are kids/obese people that are running around the gym giggling like school girls, time to leave that class.
Remember that I am only promoting self defense (protecting yourself), not to take the first swing.
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Remember Bernhard Goetz? He was mugged twice and took a stand. He bought an illegal gun and used it against these beasts the third time. They gave him jail time but he could've been killed.
You still shouldn't promote murder on the forum (there's no such thing as an illegal gun, just unconstitutional laws).
Have you heard of guilt by association? JTF is a law abiding organization, and Zionistforever is likely a minor, i'm sure there are plenty of feds that read the forum as well. I'm urging the kid to partake in self defense training, not murdering someone.
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You still shouldn't promote murder on the forum (there's no such thing as an illegal gun, just unconstitutional laws).
Have you heard of guilt by association? JTF is a law abiding organization, and Zionistforever is likely a minor, i'm sure there are plenty of feds that read the forum as well. I'm urging the kid to partake in self defense training, not murdering someone.
I was using that as an example of how using a stun gun when your life is in danger is better than not using one. I didn't tell him to get a gun and use it. I know how these animals fight. Once you win a fight they turn around and take out a knife. It happened to my father.
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Furthermore, their laws are so obviously inhumane that now matter what you do you will lose. Self-defense fighting can you get you in trouble too. Even if you kick someone you can get in trouble for "using a deadly weapon."
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Also a reality wakeup call for everyone saying "tell the teachers", "tell your parents", "tell the cops"
Modern day public school system, they don't care. Public schools are a big social hangout like a prison, the races stay with their own kind, teachers won't do drek unless they see it, most of the time it won't provoke attacks from people related to those folks. Trust me, I was a nice guy that stuck to my own, I was nice to people and a complete computer nerd. It does't work period! I don't know how many people here went to public school in the 90's-2000 (I graduated 2004) but you would need to attend as a student to understand.
It's not like the 50's-60's where little billy and little bobby had their brawl at the back of the school and billy went home with a bloody nose, or where the teacher was a strict middle age women who cracked your @$$ with a wooden paddle if you didn't behave, things are different now.
Think of it like modern day familys, the school system is broken, sure there are some strict teachers who yell and what not but most of the kids aren't intimidated, it's a big joke, in most cases (especially in the north and northeast), teachers are nearly the same age as the students and buddy buddy with the students. Oh yeah, the male teachers who were also coaches loved the jocks and knew what they did but gave them free passes.
It's all politics in the public school system.
Jews are going to be persecuted no matter what they do, and everyone is urging this kid here to tattle and prevent fighting? I don't want to see him get in trouble either, but you have to remember that we as Jews are required to defend ourselves. I'm not telling this kid to go out and hurt someone because they don't like Jews, i'm saying that if someone attack you, your sister, your brother, your mom, your dad, your dog or I, you have every right in the world to defend yourself. The school system can say what they want, but they aren't the supreme law of the land, who do you think pays for those schools to operate? Us the taxpayers. If Zionistforever here is being physically attacked, then he has every right to fight back and neutralize the threat.
Everyone that thinks he should deal with this by being quiet and ignoring them should bow their head in shame for having such a rediculous holocaust mentality. Wake up and smell the roses.
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Modern day public school system, they don't care. Public schools are a big social hangout like a prison, the races stay with their own kind, teachers won't do drek unless they see it, most of the time it won't provoke attacks from people related to those folks. Trust me, I was a nice guy that stuck to my own, I was nice to people and a complete computer nerd. It does't work period! I don't know how many people here went to public school in the 90's-2000 (I graduated 2004) but you would need to attend as a student to understand.
This is 100% correct. It's just like prison and getting worse everyday. This crap is even going in college! People who hang out in groups are least likely to be harmed. The cafeteria of public schools is the best sign of this. The ones who sit alone are attacked, while the ones in their groups however weak they may be are not bothered.
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The bottom of the stun gun page says:
"We do not ship stun guns outside the USA, or to New York, New Jersey, and Hawaii so don't ask or purchase one." It's funny how the liberals have banned these weapons where you need them most, but are available in places you don't need them.
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The bottom of the stun gun page says:
"We do not ship stun guns outside the USA, or to New York, New Jersey, and Hawaii so don't ask or purchase one." It's funny how the liberals have banned these weapons where you need them most, but are available in places you don't need them.
Even police here don't use them, there's way too much liability involved nowadays. Trust me, it's not smart to bring a stun gun to a public school, the authorities will treat it just like you have a gun. Knives are treated in a similar fashion.
A kid on the floor in the fetal position screaming after he gets tazed is going to bring attention in the hallways, and I guarantee you his school likely has cameras, comeon Ralph, think rational and stop promoting this stuff, it just makes us look bad as a organization.
It's one thing to get detention or in school suspension, expelled is pretty bad as it, but criminal charges will hit you for the rest of your life.
Anyways, my brother took online schooling which was done at home from his computer. Public school systems are a waste, I forget everything I learned and relearned everything via internet. You know public school is a waste of tax dollars when a teachers showing kids how to use condoms on his fingers because half the damn school is too busy having sex.
Unfortunately, public schooling is the reality of what real life is like, they say that life is different when your out of school, more like the basics to programming society. Only difference is I like that I can sleep in and go to work whenever I feel like it.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Sorry to here this. How old are you? This is why every parent should consider private school, ESPECIALLY in cases like yours. My public school was very tolerant, but then again... I never wore a yamacha, so I'd imagine what you have to deal with is horrible.
When I was in Junior High, My Hindu friend came to our school, and his parents made him wear his hair in a traditional hindu style, and he was picked on like I'd never seen before. He only did that for a week, but I can't imagine how he would have felt if he had to deal with that every day. Kids can be awful... especially when it comes to appearance and clothes.
my parents do not force the yamacha on me, i wear it as a symbol of my faith and pride. and i am fourteen and have been puting up with this for 3 years.
I just want you to know that at 14 this could cause serious issues to you at a later age. Have you discussed this with your parents? I really think you should stress to them that you might prefer to switch schools, and possibly go to a Jewish private school. I can't stress to you how much this will help the situation. I respect your decision to wear the Yamacha, but in the hostile environment like this... you could be seriously damaging your mental health when you grow older. You need to be in an environment that respects (and ideally) shares your heritage.
Brian
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Also a reality wakeup call for everyone saying "tell the teachers", "tell your parents", "tell the cops"
Modern day public school system, they don't care. Public schools are a big social hangout like a prison, the races stay with their own kind, teachers won't do drek unless they see it, most of the time it won't provoke attacks from people related to those folks. Trust me, I was a nice guy that stuck to my own, I was nice to people and a complete computer nerd. It does't work period! I don't know how many people here went to public school in the 90's-2000 (I graduated 2004) but you would need to attend as a student to understand.
It's not like the 50's-60's where little billy and little bobby had their brawl at the back of the school and billy went home with a bloody nose, or where the teacher was a strict middle age women who cracked your @$$ with a wooden paddle if you didn't behave, things are different now.
Think of it like modern day familys, the school system is broken, sure there are some strict teachers who yell and what not but most of the kids aren't intimidated, it's a big joke, in most cases (especially in the north and northeast), teachers are nearly the same age as the students and buddy buddy with the students. Oh yeah, the male teachers who were also coaches loved the jocks and knew what they did but gave them free passes.
It's all politics in the public school system.
Jews are going to be persecuted no matter what they do, and everyone is urging this kid here to tattle and prevent fighting? I don't want to see him get in trouble either, but you have to remember that we as Jews are required to defend ourselves. I'm not telling this kid to go out and hurt someone because they don't like Jews, i'm saying that if someone attack you, your sister, your brother, your mom, your dad, your dog or I, you have every right in the world to defend yourself. The school system can say what they want, but they aren't the supreme law of the land, who do you think pays for those schools to operate? Us the taxpayers. If Zionistforever here is being physically attacked, then he has every right to fight back and neutralize the threat.
Everyone that thinks he should deal with this by being quiet and ignoring them should bow their head in shame for having such a rediculous holocaust mentality. Wake up and smell the roses.
Who infered that he should bow his head or be quiet about his situation? Personally I advised him to deal with this matter accordingly if school officials would not.
Sure, he can kick their tuchas, problem is he gets in trouble too, so in a sense he is being punished for something that was out of his control in the first place.
Now if he can kick their hind end's and not get in trouble that's great, however violence does not appeal to all men. For those peaceful people legal action would be their only alternative. Who infered that he should bow his head or be quiet about his situation...not I ..if you find that post let me know. thank you.
Shalom from Dox
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ZF don't ever let them hurt your pride or self-worth. You are precious in God's sight.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Sorry to here this. How old are you? This is why every parent should consider private school, ESPECIALLY in cases like yours. My public school was very tolerant, but then again... I never wore a yamacha, so I'd imagine what you have to deal with is horrible.
When I was in Junior High, My Hindu friend came to our school, and his parents made him wear his hair in a traditional hindu style, and he was picked on like I'd never seen before. He only did that for a week, but I can't imagine how he would have felt if he had to deal with that every day. Kids can be awful... especially when it comes to appearance and clothes.
my parents do not force the yamacha on me, i wear it as a symbol of my faith and pride. and i am fourteen and have been puting up with this for 3 years.
I just want you to know that at 14 this could cause serious issues to you at a later age. Have you discussed this with your parents? I really think you should stress to them that you might prefer to switch schools, and possibly go to a Jewish private school. I can't stress to you how much this will help the situation. I respect your decision to wear the Yamacha, but in the hostile environment like this... you could be seriously damaging your mental health when you grow older. You need to be in an environment that respects (and ideally) shares your heritage.
Brian
the nearest jewish school ( not deformed i mean) is in western PA 2-3 hours away depending on traffic. sure if i went to catholic school it might be better, the nuns would beat people for me :::D (seriously if that offended any catholics on the forum i appologize)
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Also a reality wakeup call for everyone saying "tell the teachers", "tell your parents", "tell the cops"
Modern day public school system, they don't care. Public schools are a big social hangout like a prison, the races stay with their own kind, teachers won't do drek unless they see it, most of the time it won't provoke attacks from people related to those folks. Trust me, I was a nice guy that stuck to my own, I was nice to people and a complete computer nerd. It does't work period! I don't know how many people here went to public school in the 90's-2000 (I graduated 2004) but you would need to attend as a student to understand.
It's not like the 50's-60's where little billy and little bobby had their brawl at the back of the school and billy went home with a bloody nose, or where the teacher was a strict middle age women who cracked your @$$ with a wooden paddle if you didn't behave, things are different now.
Think of it like modern day familys, the school system is broken, sure there are some strict teachers who yell and what not but most of the kids aren't intimidated, it's a big joke, in most cases (especially in the north and northeast), teachers are nearly the same age as the students and buddy buddy with the students. Oh yeah, the male teachers who were also coaches loved the jocks and knew what they did but gave them free passes.
It's all politics in the public school system.
Jews are going to be persecuted no matter what they do, and everyone is urging this kid here to tattle and prevent fighting? I don't want to see him get in trouble either, but you have to remember that we as Jews are required to defend ourselves. I'm not telling this kid to go out and hurt someone because they don't like Jews, i'm saying that if someone attack you, your sister, your brother, your mom, your dad, your dog or I, you have every right in the world to defend yourself. The school system can say what they want, but they aren't the supreme law of the land, who do you think pays for those schools to operate? Us the taxpayers. If Zionistforever here is being physically attacked, then he has every right to fight back and neutralize the threat.
Everyone that thinks he should deal with this by being quiet and ignoring them should bow their head in shame for having such a rediculous holocaust mentality. Wake up and smell the roses.
white israelite i really appreciate the going out on limb for me (multiple times) O0
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Sorry to here this. How old are you? This is why every parent should consider private school, ESPECIALLY in cases like yours. My public school was very tolerant, but then again... I never wore a yamacha, so I'd imagine what you have to deal with is horrible.
When I was in Junior High, My Hindu friend came to our school, and his parents made him wear his hair in a traditional hindu style, and he was picked on like I'd never seen before. He only did that for a week, but I can't imagine how he would have felt if he had to deal with that every day. Kids can be awful... especially when it comes to appearance and clothes.
my parents do not force the yamacha on me, i wear it as a symbol of my faith and pride. and i am fourteen and have been puting up with this for 3 years.
I just want you to know that at 14 this could cause serious issues to you at a later age. Have you discussed this with your parents? I really think you should stress to them that you might prefer to switch schools, and possibly go to a Jewish private school. I can't stress to you how much this will help the situation. I respect your decision to wear the Yamacha, but in the hostile environment like this... you could be seriously damaging your mental health when you grow older. You need to be in an environment that respects (and ideally) shares your heritage.
Brian
the nearest jewish school ( not deformed i mean) is in western PA 2-3 hours away depending on traffic. sure if i went to catholic school it might be better, the nuns would beat people for me :::D (seriously if that offended any catholics on the forum i appologize)
I don't think you want to go to catholic school, I hear their pretty harsh.
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Sorry to here this. How old are you? This is why every parent should consider private school, ESPECIALLY in cases like yours. My public school was very tolerant, but then again... I never wore a yamacha, so I'd imagine what you have to deal with is horrible.
When I was in Junior High, My Hindu friend came to our school, and his parents made him wear his hair in a traditional hindu style, and he was picked on like I'd never seen before. He only did that for a week, but I can't imagine how he would have felt if he had to deal with that every day. Kids can be awful... especially when it comes to appearance and clothes.
my parents do not force the yamacha on me, i wear it as a symbol of my faith and pride. and i am fourteen and have been puting up with this for 3 years.
I just want you to know that at 14 this could cause serious issues to you at a later age. Have you discussed this with your parents? I really think you should stress to them that you might prefer to switch schools, and possibly go to a Jewish private school. I can't stress to you how much this will help the situation. I respect your decision to wear the Yamacha, but in the hostile environment like this... you could be seriously damaging your mental health when you grow older. You need to be in an environment that respects (and ideally) shares your heritage.
Brian
the nearest jewish school ( not deformed i mean) is in western PA 2-3 hours away depending on traffic. sure if i went to catholic school it might be better, the nuns would beat people for me :::D (seriously if that offended any catholics on the forum i appologize)
I don't think you want to go to catholic school, I hear their pretty harsh.
also they may discriminate me because of being jewish (also a lawsuit)
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ZF don't ever let them hurt your pride or self-worth. You are precious in G-d's sight.
thank you for that, with hashem guarding me i have no fear, he will protect me from all.
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Also a reality wakeup call for everyone saying "tell the teachers", "tell your parents", "tell the cops"
Modern day public school system, they don't care. Public schools are a big social hangout like a prison, the races stay with their own kind, teachers won't do drek unless they see it, most of the time it won't provoke attacks from people related to those folks. Trust me, I was a nice guy that stuck to my own, I was nice to people and a complete computer nerd. It does't work period! I don't know how many people here went to public school in the 90's-2000 (I graduated 2004) but you would need to attend as a student to understand.
It's not like the 50's-60's where little billy and little bobby had their brawl at the back of the school and billy went home with a bloody nose, or where the teacher was a strict middle age women who cracked your @$$ with a wooden paddle if you didn't behave, things are different now.
Think of it like modern day familys, the school system is broken, sure there are some strict teachers who yell and what not but most of the kids aren't intimidated, it's a big joke, in most cases (especially in the north and northeast), teachers are nearly the same age as the students and buddy buddy with the students. Oh yeah, the male teachers who were also coaches loved the jocks and knew what they did but gave them free passes.
It's all politics in the public school system.
Jews are going to be persecuted no matter what they do, and everyone is urging this kid here to tattle and prevent fighting? I don't want to see him get in trouble either, but you have to remember that we as Jews are required to defend ourselves. I'm not telling this kid to go out and hurt someone because they don't like Jews, i'm saying that if someone attack you, your sister, your brother, your mom, your dad, your dog or I, you have every right in the world to defend yourself. The school system can say what they want, but they aren't the supreme law of the land, who do you think pays for those schools to operate? Us the taxpayers. If Zionistforever here is being physically attacked, then he has every right to fight back and neutralize the threat.
Everyone that thinks he should deal with this by being quiet and ignoring them should bow their head in shame for having such a rediculous holocaust mentality. Wake up and smell the roses.
Who infered that he should bow his head or be quiet about his situation? Personally I advised him to deal with this matter accordingly if school officials would not.
Sure, he can kick their tuchas, problem is he gets in trouble too, so in a sense he is being punished for something that was out of his control in the first place.
Now if he can kick their hind end's and not get in trouble that's great, however violence does not appeal to all men. For those peaceful people legal action would be their only alternative. Who infered that he should bow his head or be quiet about his situation...not I ..if you find that post let me know. thank you.
Shalom from Dox
shalom dox, i dont think anyone posted that, i think ralph said try to ignore it though
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Sorry to here this. How old are you? This is why every parent should consider private school, ESPECIALLY in cases like yours. My public school was very tolerant, but then again... I never wore a yamacha, so I'd imagine what you have to deal with is horrible.
When I was in Junior High, My Hindu friend came to our school, and his parents made him wear his hair in a traditional hindu style, and he was picked on like I'd never seen before. He only did that for a week, but I can't imagine how he would have felt if he had to deal with that every day. Kids can be awful... especially when it comes to appearance and clothes.
my parents do not force the yamacha on me, i wear it as a symbol of my faith and pride. and i am fourteen and have been puting up with this for 3 years.
I just want you to know that at 14 this could cause serious issues to you at a later age. Have you discussed this with your parents? I really think you should stress to them that you might prefer to switch schools, and possibly go to a Jewish private school. I can't stress to you how much this will help the situation. I respect your decision to wear the Yamacha, but in the hostile environment like this... you could be seriously damaging your mental health when you grow older. You need to be in an environment that respects (and ideally) shares your heritage.
Brian
the nearest jewish school ( not deformed i mean) is in western PA 2-3 hours away depending on traffic. sure if i went to catholic school it might be better, the nuns would beat people for me :::D (seriously if that offended any catholics on the forum i appologize)
Yikes, I wasn't aware that there were so few Jewish schools in your area. In my area they are in nearly every city. (Yes... some are a bit 'progressive' but that is still 1000x better than staying in the current situation.
I am sorry for everything you have to deal with with your rotten classmates. THings will get a little better in the upper grades, but not much.
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how will it get any better , i will still have the same nazis in my school, and they will just learn new insults :'(
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Learn to fight
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i have faced adversity my entire life in new jersey, my school mates can only be described as abusive and hate-full. for example almost every day someone takes my yamacha and plays "keep away" with it, guys harrasment with names like 'jewbagel' or 'jewrat'. they make fun of the holocaust, a class mate of mine told me the funniest day of his life was visiting the holocaust memorial in washington D.C people cut me in line almost every day, and claim the back is "israel" help i need help sugestions advice something that will keep me from flipping out one day.
Break one of their noses. They'll leave you alone.
Bullies pick on people who don't fight back.
Rabbi Kahane would have told you the same thing.
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Do you play sports with any of them?
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Learn to fight
I had a thread entitled Punching Advice. It was great.
You could have read it and learned how to throw a devastating punch!
It's been deleted.
Apparently, JTF is opposed to self defense.
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Learn to fight
I had a thread entitled Punching Advice. It was great.
You could have read it and learned how to throw a devastating punch!
It's been deleted.
Apparently, JTF is opposed to self defense.
If I knew the kid I would teach him choke holds
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Learn to fight
I had a thread entitled Punching Advice. It was great.
You could have read it and learned how to throw a devastating punch!
It's been deleted.
Apparently, JTF is opposed to self defense.
If I knew the kid I would teach him choke holds
Everyone should be proficient with submission holds and grappling, but it's best to keep your distance from an opponent (especially it there's more than one of them!)
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Learn to fight
I had a thread entitled Punching Advice. It was great.
You could have read it and learned how to throw a devastating punch!
It's been deleted.
Apparently, JTF is opposed to self defense.
If I knew the kid I would teach him choke holds
Everyone should be proficient with submission holds and grappling, but it's best to keep your distance from an opponent (especially it there's more than one of them!)
There is one I would not show him because it is made to kill the attacker
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Learn to fight
I had a thread entitled Punching Advice. It was great.
You could have read it and learned how to throw a devastating punch!
It's been deleted.
Apparently, JTF is opposed to self defense.
If I knew the kid I would teach him choke holds
Everyone should be proficient with submission holds and grappling, but it's best to keep your distance from an opponent (especially it there's more than one of them!)
There is one I would not show him because it is made to kill the attacker
Crushing the windpipe?
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Learn to fight
I had a thread entitled Punching Advice. It was great.
You could have read it and learned how to throw a devastating punch!
It's been deleted.
Apparently, JTF is opposed to self defense.
If I knew the kid I would teach him choke holds
Everyone should be proficient with submission holds and grappling, but it's best to keep your distance from an opponent (especially it there's more than one of them!)
There is one I would not show him because it is made to kill the attacker
Crushing the windpipe?
Kind of but it also pinches the jugular so no blood to the brain
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Me and my brother had to dealwith this crap in high school and the authorities do as much as they have to but no more. My brother said that gangs were stupid and one day I left school and got beaten by a bunch of Hispanics. You have to do everything in your power to make sure you are not a victim. Work out with weights and take up something like MMA or krav magah. I would never suggest these things but if someone were to fight back they could...
find one of them alone and kick their ass really badly (after you've worked out for a while.)
find out their cell phone numbers and sign them up for EVERYTHING (scientology, the NRA, Amway, World Wide Group, fax back numbers, kirby vacuums, etc. NEVER leave a voicemail if you call)
Find out if any of them smoke, do drugs etc. and call your local police dept from a pay phone or prepaid about it and drop a dime on them
Crazy glue everything they own, lockers, keys, books, etc and expensive items. (Be careful of school cameras)
You may have to get your *** kicked but keep coming back. I had to eventually learn that getting my butt kicked once wasn't so bad and you pick up the pieces and go back again.
NEVER, EVER walk away...that's what the authorities and parents tell you but it never works at a worksite nor a school.
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Also, if you have a crazy adult relative, they could always have a talk with one of your classmates after school. A guy I went to school with had his younger sister hit on by this senior and she wouldn't stop talking to him. The guy told the senior to leave her alone and the senior said some really horrible things about how he was going to hook up with her. About a week later the senior got beaten really badly by some 40 year old guy on his way back from school and he never came back.
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Also, if you have a crazy adult relative, they could always have a talk with one of your classmates after school. A guy I went to school with had his younger sister hit on by this senior and she wouldn't stop talking to him. The guy told the senior to leave her alone and the senior said some really horrible things about how he was going to hook up with her. About a week later the senior got beaten really badly by some 40 year old guy on his way back from school and he never came back.
:::D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related)
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Also, remember that if you're under 14, they can suspend you, expell you, but they can't really do much legally to you unless you so something really bad. I've found that getting fired, expelled can often end up being a good thing becasue you end up in places where people respect you and you wonder why you didn't leave in the first place.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ3JOu60opE
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Get this and use it on the guys pressure points like to the neck or temple
(http://www.ryukyueastasianmartialarts.com/images/kubaton.jpg)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related)
O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ3JOu60opE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Cpb3uL_9I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Cpb3uL_9I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaMa52-NwmI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaMa52-NwmI&feature=related)
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Don't bring a gun to school. It's not like the pre-Columbine days where you might get a suspension for something like that. That, they will put in you jail for and your name will be on the internet for all time.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ3JOu60opE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Cpb3uL_9I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Cpb3uL_9I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaMa52-NwmI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaMa52-NwmI&feature=related)
;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFm0afnHlBg&feature=related)
O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ3JOu60opE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Cpb3uL_9I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Cpb3uL_9I)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaMa52-NwmI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaMa52-NwmI&feature=related)
;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN7yn0XOSMQ
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The answer is simple form a group of friends and stick together to put a stop to this sort of thing. It may be required to have a little rumble but once the aggressors know you and your friends are going to back each other up they will stop the crap. Once you get a network going in the school and they know the group means business it will be a different story.
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Also, if you have a crazy adult relative, they could always have a talk with one of your classmates after school. A guy I went to school with had his younger sister hit on by this senior and she wouldn't stop talking to him. The guy told the senior to leave her alone and the senior said some really horrible things about how he was going to hook up with her. About a week later the senior got beaten really badly by some 40 year old guy on his way back from school and he never came back.
Lmao, that's awsome.
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Learn to fight
Shalom American, when I went to college this black girl slugged me with her 2 friends standing by. I was alone and my common sense told me to walk away.
If I had attempted to fight back, those 3 baboonettes might have injured me badly. Sometimes fighting back might not be an alternative, especially for women, me being an example. If Zionest does fight back, I hope he tears them to pieces.
Shalom from Dox
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Also, if you have a crazy adult relative, they could always have a talk with one of your classmates after school. A guy I went to school with had his younger sister hit on by this senior and she wouldn't stop talking to him. The guy told the senior to leave her alone and the senior said some really horrible things about how he was going to hook up with her. About a week later the senior got beaten really badly by some 40 year old guy on his way back from school and he never came back.
Lmao, that's awsome.
noone ever messed with that guy or his younger sister after that. Also, the guy's father was a barber and had three homes and a $150000 car...not someone I'd ever want to have visit me.
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Also, if you have a crazy adult relative, they could always have a talk with one of your classmates after school. A guy I went to school with had his younger sister hit on by this senior and she wouldn't stop talking to him. The guy told the senior to leave her alone and the senior said some really horrible things about how he was going to hook up with her. About a week later the senior got beaten really badly by some 40 year old guy on his way back from school and he never came back.
Lmao, that's awsome.
noone ever messed with that guy or his younger sister after that. Also, the guy's father was a barber and had three homes and a $150000 car...not someone I'd ever want to have visit me.
He would use this
(http://www.theartofshaving.com/taos6/images6/products/310/68022.jpg)
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Where do you find these pictures! Just hilarious!!!!
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Where do you find these pictures! Just hilarious!!!!
:::D :::D :::D
I have a lot of pics saved
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Learn to fight
I had a thread entitled Punching Advice. It was great.
You could have read it and learned how to throw a devastating punch!
It's been deleted.
Apparently, JTF is opposed to self defense.
If I knew the kid I would teach him choke holds
O0 thanks :::D
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Learn to fight
I had a thread entitled Punching Advice. It was great.
You could have read it and learned how to throw a devastating punch!
It's been deleted.
Apparently, JTF is opposed to self defense.
If I knew the kid I would teach him choke holds
Everyone should be proficient with submission holds and grappling, but it's best to keep your distance from an opponent (especially it there's more than one of them!)
There is one I would not show him because it is made to kill the attacker
Crushing the windpipe?
Kind of but it also pinches the jugular so no blood to the brain
i wouldnt want to know how to kill someone :o just to defend myself.
Also, remember that if you're under 14, they can suspend you, expell you, but they can't really do much legally to you unless you so something really bad. I've found that getting fired, expelled can often end up being a good thing becasue you end up in places where people respect you and you wonder why you didn't leave in the first place.
well to be honest the school i couldnt care less if they expell me, its what my parents would do when i get home :-[.
The answer is simple form a group of friends and stick together to put a stop to this sort of thing. It may be required to have a little rumble but once the aggressors know you and your friends are going to back each other up they will stop the crap. Once you get a network going in the school and they know the group means business it will be a different story.
my school is so gay, i would be suspended for starting trouble.
Also, if you have a crazy adult relative, they could always have a talk with one of your classmates after school. A guy I went to school with had his younger sister hit on by this senior and she wouldn't stop talking to him. The guy told the senior to leave her alone and the senior said some really horrible things about how he was going to hook up with her. About a week later the senior got beaten really badly by some 40 year old guy on his way back from school and he never came back.
Lmao, that's awsome.
noone ever messed with that guy or his younger sister after that. Also, the guy's father was a barber and had three homes and a $150000 car...not someone I'd ever want to have visit me.
He would use this
(http://www.theartofshaving.com/taos6/images6/products/310/68022.jpg)
[/quote lmao :::D
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Also, if you have a crazy adult relative, they could always have a talk with one of your classmates after school. A guy I went to school with had his younger sister hit on by this senior and she wouldn't stop talking to him. The guy told the senior to leave her alone and the senior said some really horrible things about how he was going to hook up with her. About a week later the senior got beaten really badly by some 40 year old guy on his way back from school and he never came back.
that is awesome, my uncle is strait out of the IDF, maybe he could help. O0
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Also, remember that if you're under 14, they can suspend you, expell you, but they can't really do much legally to you unless you so something really bad. I've found that getting fired, expelled can often end up being a good thing becasue you end up in places where people respect you and you wonder why you didn't leave in the first place.
well to be honest the school i couldnt care less if they expell me, its what my parents would do when i get home
Thats true....Just make sure you go to the school and the teachers but also fight back. It's true it's easy to say "beat those kids up" but some kids in high school are pretty tough. If you've exhausted going to the authorities you have to take matters into your own hands. You'd be amazed how many people have gone through what you've gone through so just remember that you're not the only person who is or has gone through this. I've just found that school would have been way easier had I stood up to bullies earlier on. The same goes for the work place or even with a nation. If someone comes after you and you've been nice to them and warned them, at some point you have to fight. You can't do it halfway though...you need to fight them in any way you can. On the internet, in person, whatever. Also, tell you parents you're interested in martial arts and even if you can't go to a gym, do push ups and situps, every single day. You'll be healthier and much harder to mess with.
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Also, remember that if you're under 14, they can suspend you, expell you, but they can't really do much legally to you unless you so something really bad. I've found that getting fired, expelled can often end up being a good thing becasue you end up in places where people respect you and you wonder why you didn't leave in the first place.
well to be honest the school i couldnt care less if they expell me, its what my parents would do when i get home
Thats true....Just make sure you go to the school and the teachers but also fight back. It's true it's easy to say "beat those kids up" but some kids in high school are pretty tough. If you've exhausted going to the authorities you have to take matters into your own hands. You'd be amazed how many people have gone through what you've gone through so just remember that you're not the only person who is or has gone through this. I've just found that school would have been way easier had I stood up to bullies earlier on. The same goes for the work place or even with a nation. If someone comes after you and you've been nice to them and warned them, at some point you have to fight. You can't do it halfway though...you need to fight them in any way you can. On the internet, in person, whatever. Also, tell you parents you're interested in martial arts and even if you can't go to a gym, do push ups and situps, every single day. You'll be healthier and much harder to mess with.
thats a good idea, i could take them all on now as i am. and i have a new problem, the ones who call themselves my friends have shown there real colors. i am lost, they are all anti semitic. i am mad at them, ignoring them and alot of there words hurt :'(
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I didn't have any friends in Jr. High either. I'd walk down the hallway and people would scowl at me as I passed.
I still think it wouldn't hurt you academically at all to drop out and study on your own for a GED. If you finish high school early you can go to college early.
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
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I didn't have any friends in Jr. High either. I'd walk down the hallway and people would scowl at me as I passed.
I still think it wouldn't hurt you academically at all to drop out and study on your own for a GED. If you finish high school early you can go to college early.
I did not have friends in JHS either but that was because people were scared of me even some of the teachers
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
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they are misguided, a worthless on welfare living skin head, has polluted (hes 20 and i can do a thing about it) their minds. for years spreading anti jewish garbage. these kids are from broken homes, in fact one of them i met when i was 7 and his own drunken father threw him out for standing up to him for the way he treats his mother. anyways i dont know what to do.
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
Find out stuff about your friends and use it against them
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
Find out stuff about your friends and use it against them
one is a cuban, one is fat (i get back at him easily) one is cuban, one is german (and proud :o) and one is a wise mouth b@#$%
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I didn't have any friends in Jr. High either. I'd walk down the hallway and people would scowl at me as I passed.
I still think it wouldn't hurt you academically at all to drop out and study on your own for a GED. If you finish high school early you can go to college early.
I did not have friends in JHS either but that was because people were scared of me even some of the teachers
they should be affraid of me. i am probably the strongest kid in my school (i mean that literaly)
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
Find out stuff about your friends and use it against them
one is a cuban, one is fat (i get back at him easily) one is cuban, one is german (and proud :o) and one is a wise mouth b@#$%
Which of the guys is the biggest?
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I didn't have any friends in Jr. High either. I'd walk down the hallway and people would scowl at me as I passed.
I still think it wouldn't hurt you academically at all to drop out and study on your own for a GED. If you finish high school early you can go to college early.
I did not have friends in JHS either but that was because people were scared of me even some of the teachers
they should be afraid of me. i am probably the strongest kid in my school (i mean that literally)
I was too but I went crazy the 2 week of school and beat a kid with a lunch tray
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
Find out stuff about your friends and use it against them
one is a cuban, one is fat (i get back at him easily) one is cuban, one is german (and proud :o) and one is a wise mouth b@#$%
Which of the guys is the biggest?
the fat one, he called me a kike today and it took all my self restraint not the break his jaw
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I didn't have any friends in Jr. High either. I'd walk down the hallway and people would scowl at me as I passed.
I still think it wouldn't hurt you academically at all to drop out and study on your own for a GED. If you finish high school early you can go to college early.
I did not have friends in JHS either but that was because people were scared of me even some of the teachers
they should be afraid of me. i am probably the strongest kid in my school (i mean that literally)
I was too but I went crazy the 2 week of school and beat a kid with a lunch tray
i broke off piece of a radiator and it took half the gym class to wrestle it away from me
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
Find out stuff about your friends and use it against them
one is a cuban, one is fat (i get back at him easily) one is cuban, one is german (and proud :o) and one is a wise mouth b@#$%
Which of the guys is the biggest?
the fat one, he called me a kike today and it took all my self restraint not the break his jaw
When you fight a fat kid go for his legs like the knee or lower once you chop him down give him an uppercut
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I didn't have any friends in Jr. High either. I'd walk down the hallway and people would scowl at me as I passed.
I still think it wouldn't hurt you academically at all to drop out and study on your own for a GED. If you finish high school early you can go to college early.
I did not have friends in JHS either but that was because people were scared of me even some of the teachers
they should be afraid of me. i am probably the strongest kid in my school (i mean that literally)
I was too but I went crazy the 2 week of school and beat a kid with a lunch tray
i broke off piece of a radiator and it took half the gym class to wrestle it away from me
watch some of the youtube vids that were posted earlier
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
Find out stuff about your friends and use it against them
one is a cuban, one is fat (i get back at him easily) one is cuban, one is german (and proud :o) and one is a wise mouth b@#$%
Which of the guys is the biggest?
the fat one, he called me a kike today and it took all my self restraint not the break his jaw
When you fight a fat kid go for his legs like the knee or lower once you chop him down give him an uppercut
lol good idea. :::D but i would die if he fell on me
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any other advice ???
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
Find out stuff about your friends and use it against them
one is a cuban, one is fat (i get back at him easily) one is cuban, one is german (and proud :o) and one is a wise mouth b@#$%
Which of the guys is the biggest?
the fat one, he called me a kike today and it took all my self restraint not the break his jaw
When you fight a fat kid go for his legs like the knee or lower once you chop him down give him an uppercut
lol good idea. :::D but i would die if he fell on me
When you kick him make sure the kicks follow through dont stop once you made contact.
You kick and move to the side
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
Find out stuff about your friends and use it against them
one is a cuban, one is fat (i get back at him easily) one is cuban, one is german (and proud :o) and one is a wise mouth b@#$%
Which of the guys is the biggest?
the fat one, he called me a kike today and it took all my self restraint not the break his jaw
When you fight a fat kid go for his legs like the knee or lower once you chop him down give him an uppercut
lol good idea. :::D but i would die if he fell on me
When you kick him make sure the kicks follow through dont stop once you made contact.
You kick and move to the side
how many fights have you gotten into ??
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i really need advice, please all you forum posters (not the people posting f** porn >:() i thought i knew my friends, but they are all anti-semitic, these people have been friends with me since i could walk. i dont know what to do, i am always going to be faithful to Hashem, but i am in doubt. i am so confused and i dont know what do.
What did your friends do?
they told anti semitic jokes, threw pocket change at me and screamed go get the pennies JEW ! THEY HAD THE F***ING AUDACITY TO ASK IF I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY GRAND PARENTS GRILLED, OR FRIED!!!!!! (both of my grandparents died at aushwitz)
Find out stuff about your friends and use it against them
one is a cuban, one is fat (i get back at him easily) one is cuban, one is german (and proud :o) and one is a wise mouth b@#$%
Which of the guys is the biggest?
the fat one, he called me a kike today and it took all my self restraint not the break his jaw
When you fight a fat kid go for his legs like the knee or lower once you chop him down give him an uppercut
lol good idea. :::D but i would die if he fell on me
When you kick him make sure the kicks follow through dont stop once you made contact.
You kick and move to the side
how many fights have you gotten into ??
A couple
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F*** you svetlana
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F*** you svetlana, how many did you win ?
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F*** you svetlana, how many did you win ?
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F*** you svetlana, how many did you win ?
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good. lol i wish you could teach me to fight ;D
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F*** you svetlana, how many did you win ?
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good. lol i wish you could teach me to fight ;D
I would teach you but i would teach you how to hurt the person like open up the eyebrow
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good. lol i wish you could teach me to fight ;D
I would teach you but i would teach you how to hurt the person like open up the eyebrow
if someone called me a kike and i didnt kill them why dont you think i know when enough is enough ???
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good. lol i wish you could teach me to fight ;D
I would teach you but i would teach you how to hurt the person like open up the eyebrow
if someone called me a kike and i didnt kill them why dont you think i know when enough is enough ???
Easy when they stop moving
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good. lol i wish you could teach me to fight ;D
I would teach you but i would teach you how to hurt the person like open up the eyebrow
if someone called me a kike and i didnt kill them why dont you think i know when enough is enough ???
Easy when they stop moving
:::D seriously though i am not a murderer, they may have [censored] me off but i am not going to kill them, hurt them perhaps, teach them some manners, but never reallly harm them